41 thoughts on “Housekeeping”

1. Unbelievable. A threadjack of a post about threadjacking. I am sure the host will get right on it… Nah, who are we kidding… his duty is done – lipservice had been administered… move along and keep on jacking…

2. Thanks, Mitch. You have had good dissenters visit here (Wabbitoid, for example), but it’s a challenge to find lefties who aren’t trolls.

3. Only chicken crap, bootlicking basement dwellers like you, Emery. I’m sure that you can’t wait until someone else besides the media, tells you what to do. It must be tough being useful idiot.

4. Threadjacking has been weaponized by the trolls of the Left. The idea is to bury whatever legitimate point the poster is trying to make, and what legitimate comments are made in response to that point, with left-wing talking points.
   It is deliberate and it is intended to stifle speech that the troll does not agree with.

5. Cancel culture has found its way to SiTD.

6. I hate to do this – partly because i have to have to do it, and partly because the last thing I need to do is spend time maintaining a comment section.

   I think it’s the least I can ask, though.

7. Cancel culture…

   …would be if I put your email and IP address out there and told people to make you regret leaving the comment.

   No, Em, I’m managing the discussion. Participate here all you want – but the threadjacking needs to stop.

8. Good comment, MO. Although it isn’t often stated as well, I think this is precisely the point behind the desire to ban the trolls: they are not dissenting, they are ruining things.

   As for things being an echo chamber, I disagreed strongly with the contents of the yard-sign post, but no one, including the host, argued or even commented on my disagreement. All comments were about the two, three threadjacks. Now maybe my comment wasn’t good enough or interesting enough to comment on (I’ll just have to live with that), but by letting these threadjacks exist and control any given post, you’ll never know if there’s an echo chamber lurking in the background or not.

   To be honest, the Dollar General post had a number of interesting threads, some back and forth, and not one threadjack – even with the comment from the Emery Collective.

   Echo chamber? You need to trust your regular, non-troll, commenters more than you do.

9. Geez Mitch! I guess that WAS a pig that just flew by my window. In case later posters have missed it, my first post on this thread was in response to a Threadjack comment which was deleted. Wish there was a way to leave the actual posts and redact the content so people can see what’s going on and not start wondering why the sudden change in the comment direction. Thank you.

10. The one thing I can say that’s “nice” about threadjacking by trolls is that it does give us a view of what life is like in a leftist echo chamber. And I guess if I patrolled hyper-conservative sites more often, I’d get the feel of what a rightist echo chamber was.

    But I’ll pass.

11. These fucking trolls need to form up in a group and start a little shit hole to call their own…oh, wait…they already did that.

    On another subject, somewhat related, I eschewed social media before it was cool. But now there is an alternative, right wing social media scene evolving. Right now, it is centered around Parler and Rumble, but Gab is not out of the mix.

    Just a month ago, even the most prominent people on Parler were receiving only a few hundred responses to their posts…suddenly, it’s thousands…tens of thousands. And all of a sudden, Tucker Carlson has started posting to an account he opened months ago. Check it out if you have not. There are plans being made.

12. would be if I put your email and IP address out there and told people to make you regret leaving the comment.

    For the record; I endorse and encourage that kind of behavior.

13. Mitch, not sure if that was aimed at me.

    Here’s the thing, you don’t respond in a timely manner, why should I (or anyone) come back and wait on you?

    Second, you ignore the 800lbs gorilla ALL THE TIME, why should we/I not call you out on it? That you don’t want to answer for ignoring the gorilla, well, isn’t that YOUR problem, rather than mine. Said differently, just because you want to ignore the hypocrisy, doesn’t mean I have to go along, does it?

    Third, if you make some sort of claim/headline like “low expectations” how is taking your words and using “thread jacking”?

    I’ll come back to read your comments in case you were directing your angst at me.

14. Parler & Gab, etc., have exposure. They can be shut down by a twitter storm attacking the people who sell them bandwidth & server space.
    Conservative Treehouse got booted by WordPress because of some unidentified comments made to one of the posts.
    I saw this tactic develop back in 2015 when Mad King Charles proposed that certain blogs should be shut down because of bigoted comments made to some of the posts. The goal was to force comment arbitration, which in actuality meant small blogs eliminating comments. This essentially killed them, since it ended reader engagement.
    Mad King Charles tipped his hand when he & and associate used sock puppets to leave vile, racist comments on a R Wing blog, then brought these comments to the attention of the blog’s ISP & demanded that it be shut down.
    Do not believe for a second that these people are operating in good faith.

15. Mitch, not sure if that was aimed at me.
    

    So, the Low Expectations comment has one sentence about them before ranting on Trump and talking about Kung flu in ND.

    The My New Project comment doesn’t even address the post but heads off to rant about the G20 summit before finally accusing Mitch (a Trump skeptic) of “ass-kissing Trump and embracing his idiotic, unproven, conspiracy theories”.

    In the Further Proof… post, there is not only one, but two comments that rant about Trump shooting people on Times Square and Democrat voting fraud. The post was about Obama and his Nobel Prize and how no leftist sees any problem with that given the circumstances.

    …I don’t know. Maybe it’s me. Three threadjacks in a row and I didn’t even have to follow an “Older posts” link to find more. Maybe not as insistently annoying like a dripping faucet as the Emery Collective is, but I’d say p-boi is batting a 1000 on threadjacks.

    And not one response when confronted by contrary info.

16. Second, you ignore the 800lbs gorilla ALL THE TIME, why should we/I not call you out on it? That you don’t want to answer for ignoring the gorilla, well, isn’t that YOUR problem, rather than mine. Said differently, just because you want to ignore the hypocrisy, doesn’t mean I have to go along, does it?

    Peev, your “800lbs gorilla” gambit is just another version of a threadjack. It’s Mitch’s blog. He gets to set the agenda. Not you. You want to go gorilla hunting, go back to yer own blog.

17. JDM – someone whinges about low expectations, they get to answer for their own.

    Mr. D – two things, Lileks writes the peevish stuff, and funnily gets paid for it. Given Trump is the biggest peevish POS we’ve seen on the world stage, I find your childishness a little more than a little laughable.

    And more, Mr. D, here’s the deal, you guys want to cherry-pick, and expect to NOT get called on it, grow some skin, you don’t. Mitch makes absurd claims, then he’s proven wrong, but ignores it – well guess what – you want to make absurd claims, then a BIG person stands up, doesn’t ignore it. That’s what Trump has done for four years, and No, Mr. D, I’m not going to give him a pass, that’s why we got Trump.

    So, sorry boys and girls, if you want to make asinine comments, ignore the truth, engage in sophistry and hypocrisy, well then, you get called on it.

    What you’re really saying is you can’t stand the heat. Seriously.

18. Mitch, I put it back to you, if you can’t take the time to reply 9 times out of 10, why should I come back to read the small-minded comments of your sycophants?

    Likewise, if you make an absurd comment like blaming blue states for higher death rates, why should I let that pass when time proves you wrong?

    When you engage in hypocrisy, why should I not call that out?

    Just because you want to cherry-pick and keep the discussion myopic?

    Nah, no thanks. The issues are bigger than you are addressing because you don’t want to address the larger issues, that’s what’s going on. Delete what you like, it just proves what was said bothered you or pointed out the deafening silence from you.. If it’s not that then as you say, let the “free wheeling” go on. You let your boot-lickers insult me personally and don’t step in but “thread jacking”? THAT’s where you draw your line.. Sure Mitch, I buy that..

19. Just because you want to cherry-pick and keep the discussion myopic?
    
    Well, OK. p-boi doesn’t even know what it means to jack a thread.

20. Wow. Anyone here read Fountainhead? Remember what happened when Ellsworth got his job back?

21. So, sorry boys and girls, if you want to make asinine comments, ignore the truth, engage in sophistry and hypocrisy, well then, you get called on it.

    What you’re really saying is you can’t stand the heat. Seriously.

    While it is clear Peev has his own Very Special Glossary, in common parlance “heat” and “dyspeptic incoherence” are not analogous concepts, although it’s possible the proprietor hasn’t fact-checked that with Anton Valukas recently. Stick to yer knitting, Paddyboy.

22. It is unfair of you to punish me for abusing you, because you were asking for it.

    More simply:

    LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!

    said every abuser, ever.

23. Peeve expects a personal response from mberg?
    Why not email him?

24. I’m delighted to debate diligent denkers disclaiming on differing opinions and defending them determinedly.

    I deplore dump-and-run delinquents.

    Do it.

25. Mitch, not sure if that was aimed at me.

    It wasn’t.

    Well, not primarily.

    Here’s the thing, you don’t respond in a timely manner, why should I (or anyone) come back and wait on you?

    I write between 5 and 6:30 AM. I don’t as a rule have time to spend monitoring conversations outside that time. I respond as I can.

    Second, you ignore the 800lbs gorilla ALL THE TIME, why should we/I not call you out on it? That you don’t want to answer for ignoring the gorilla, well, isn’t that YOUR problem, rather than mine. Said differently, just because you want to ignore the hypocrisy, doesn’t mean I have to go along, does it?

    All due respect, but what on earth are you talking about?

    Third, if you make some sort of claim/headline like “low expectations” how is taking your words and using “thread jacking”?

    Again, not sure what you’re getting at here.

    I’ll come back to read your comments in case you were directing your angst at me

    It’s not “angst” – no stress involved. Just housekeeping. And it’s not aimed at you.

26. Mitch, I put it back to you, if you can’t take the time to reply 9 times out of 10, why should I come back to read the small-minded comments of your sycophants?

    Your time usage is up to you. I spend my time doing the writing, mostly.

    Likewise, if you make an absurd comment like blaming blue states for higher death rates, why should I let that pass when time proves you wrong?

    It hasn’t. New York and New Jersey’s per capita death rates are still far and away the highest in the country, and likely will stay that way. New York’s death is 2.5 times that of Florida.

    Facts is facts.

    When you engage in hypocrisy, why should I not call that out?

    You can try. As I’ve been saying for (checks watch) fifteen years, I don’t think that word means what you think it means.

    Just because you want to cherry-pick and keep the discussion myopic?

    You can call it “cherry picking”. It is, in fact, running my blog.

    The issues are bigger than you are addressing because you don’t want to address the larger issues, that’s what’s going on.

    Larger than I’m addressing? Perhaps – but I’m the one who decides what I’m going to address, now, aren’t I?

    If you want to take on all the issues and do it your way, you have alternatives – although you did try it for a few years, and I trust found it wasn’t so easy

    Delete what you like, it just proves what was said bothered you or pointed out the deafening silence from you.. If it’s not that then as you say, let the “free wheeling” go on. You let your boot-lickers insult me personally and don’t step in but “thread jacking”? THAT’s where you draw your line.. Sure Mitch, I buy that..

    Pad, you give as bad as you get, and you always have. And that’s fine – we’re all grownups here.

    Anyway – it’s really not that complicated. It’s my blog. I supply the topics. If a commenter’s entire reason to be here is to write other topics, maybe that should be telling them something?

27. By the way, Pad…

    Delete what you like, it just proves what was said bothered you or pointed out the deafening silence from you.. If it’s not that then as you say, let the “free wheeling” go on.

    Back when you and Dog Gone were running your blog, you were far more proscriptive on content than I was. Virtually everyone from this blog that went there got banned almost immediately. I have banned maybe a half dozen people from SITD in 18 years.

    So Pad, if you will – why do you expect me to follow a different standard than you all followed yourselves, back when you were doing a blog, notwithstanding the fact that I have always allowed commenters far, far more leeway than you and DG ever did?

    Yes, more leeway.

    I’ve been advising the person this thread was aimed at to ease off the threadjacking, literally, for years.

    “Dog Gone” used my comment section as her personal blog and “poop and run” patch for years – literally, seven or eight of them – before I started slooooooowly trying to get her attention. And when I did finally ban her, it wasn’t for threadjacking.

    And you, yourself, Pad, have been banned from this blog at least 2-3 times over the years. And yet here you are. So if I’m a proscriptive control freak, clearly I’m the worst proscriptive control freak ever.

    And I’ve had valued commenters leave because the threadjacking detracted from the signal to noise ratio. That’s a problem.

    Anyway – I pick the topics. I allow some leeway, but I’m asserting my prerogative as the owner. It’s not that big a deal.

28. I looked at the back and forth between Emory and the sycophants as a feature, not a bug.

    The sycophants discussing the intellectual disparities among the races every day gets real boring. < This is the concern you should have about your comments section, Mitch.

29. “The sycophants discussing the intellectual disparities among the races every day gets real boring.”

    Honestly, I’m trying to remember the last time I saw that on this site. I know one commenter mentions it occasionally, but discussion? Back-and-forth between the host and the rest of us? Drawing a blank.

    Help me out, here, John: post some links to refresh my memory. Shouldn’t be hard, if it’s an “every day” occurrance.
    .

30. If the government insists on classifying people by race, why can’t I?

31. Silly Max, the only good and vibrant discussion is the one that interests the trollbots, regardless of the thread topic. Sometime you really surprise me, you know!

32. There is no shortage of anti-Trump opinion in the MSM & in social media. Ranting against Trump is not constructive, especially when the rant is cut-n-pasted from DU or HuffPo.
    There is, however, a notable absence of frank & honest discussion of race in the MSM & social media. I welcome it here.

33. ^ Yeah well, it’s ugly and it’s masturbatory in its weird, weird way.  But if you and Swiftee and 5 other 62 year old white guys with this fixation want to use Berg’s comment section to be Steve Sailer wannabes, you are assuredly free to do that.

34. Mitch: “I write between 5 and 6:30 AM. I don’t as a rule have time to spend monitoring conversations outside that time. I respond as I can.”….”Anyway – it’s really not that complicated. It’s my blog. I supply the topics. If a commenter’s entire reason to be here is to write other topics, maybe that should be telling them something?”

    I like that!! I look forward to Mitch picking a topic of HIS desire, writing his thoughts, and giving us the chance to comment on the subject further. I think that if someone wants to write on topics of their choice they could clear it with Mitch in the way Joe Doakes does. It’s Mitch’s choice what gets published on his blog.

    And for me it’s worth repeating….THANK YOU MITCH!!

35. Paddyboy said:

    You let your boot-lickers insult me personally

    Hypocrisy much, Paddyboy? Hint; if you can’t take it, don’t dish it out. I’ve looked through your comments on this thread, and there sadly ain’t much there but variants of the genetic fallacy.

    And really, your response really needs to be more along the lines of “sure, your house, your rules” (best response) or a coherent argument about why people ought to be entitled to change the subject. Let’s grow up a little,K?

36. Personally, my biggest regret about a certain thread jacker getting banned is we never got an explanation via science of how gender reassignment surgery changes an individual’s chromosomes.

37. I must have asked for that for six months.

38. Didn’t you guys ever take Philosophy 101? Descartes? No?

    “I think I’m a girl, therefore I am.”

39. You know, there was a Simpsons episode where a crime is committed and linked to the Simpson family, and Marge says that when she married Homer, her DNA became his, too.

    So maybe that’s DogGone’s source, though she messed up some of the specifics. The Simpsons is peer reviewed science, isn’t it?

40. Was it The Simpsons that triggered moderation?

41. Nope. So maybe referring to D*g **ne did the trick. Either way, that’s pretty funny.

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