The Cure For What Ails Us

Joe Doakes from Como Park emails:

The cure for election fraud is scrutiny.  Make sure every ballot is legitimate, then count all legitimate ballots.  The process takes place in two parts.

First, scrutinize the paper ballots, same as we did in the “hanging-chads” count in Florida.  This requires three steps:

Step A: segregate ballots where the chain of custody is unclear.  If the elections officials can’t prove that the ballots in this box were slid into the voting machine at the Como Precinct, transferred to a locked box by John, transported to the County Elections Office by Stephanie, opened there by Roger, scanned by Trudy and re-locked, then stored by Darlene until the recount; then we cannot be confident they are legitimate ballots.  They might have been fraudulent ballots smuggled in under cover of darkness.  Segregate them for separate counting when and if the court decides to include them.

Step B: segregate ballots that lack procedural compliance: missing signature, spoiled ballot, arrived late, back-dated, etc.  They might have been accepted in violation of the law.  Some of these might be allowed, some might be rejected, but they cannot be dumped into the general mix.  Segregate them for separate counting when and if the court decides to include them.

Step C: make the court decide which ballots to count, which to exclude.  It’s critical to do this BEFORE the counting begins, to avoid influencing the decision. The last thing the public wants to hear is: “It doesn’t matter because it won’t overturn the results of the election.”  We don’t know that yet; we haven’t done the manual recount.  Make an impartial decision on the merits of the ballots, not the results you anticipate.

Finally, do a manual recount of each group of ballots.  Do NOT scan them into the voting machines.  The machines have a known history of vote switching.  Senator Klobuchar complained about it.  And counting machines are vulnerable to errors caused by missed software updates, on-line hackingfractionalized voting, and security breaches.  At this point, we have no guarantee the machine counts were correct so we must verify them by a manual recount, eyeballs on paper. 

Yes, it would cost a fortune.  Do you want an honest election or a cheap one?

Joe Doakes

This will require a clean GOP sweep at the polls in 2020. There is no other way. Steve Simon is hiding too much (on the behalf of the DFL, natch).

15 thoughts on “The Cure For What Ails Us

  1. The cure for election fraud is scrutiny. Make sure every ballot is legitimate, then count all legitimate ballots. The process takes place in two parts.

    Wrong premise, JD. I do not think you still comprehend what “legitmate” and “legal” mean what you think they mean to libturds. Ends justify the means. So anything and everything that justifies the end, their end, is legitimate and legal. Everything else follows.

  2. The chain of custody, or lack thereof, is another huge issue I’ve noticed through this whole process. It disgusts me.

    I’ve had at least 300 urinalysis tests done. You get the bottle, and ensure your name and social are on it and correct. Holding the bottle up and visible, you walk to the restroom, fill it up under observation, and walk back to the table (again with the bottle visible). They then seal the container and confirm that it goes into the correct place, while you and an observer sign off on a sheet.

    That’s for urine. There’s more concern about protecting my pee than there is protecting my vote. Man, kinda wishing I’d bought land in Idaho years ago…

  3. Pretty standard playbook for grifters.
    Make outlandish claims with no actual facts backing them up. Them try to legitimize previous false claims by launching a lawsuit based on those false claims.

    Again … where is the evidence of voter fraud? Trump’s legal team have yet to present evidence to support such claims.

    Trump and his allies are 1-36 in court.

  4. ” . . . where is the evidence of voter fraud?” Notice how Liberals carefully ask the wrong question? There’s a reason for that.

    “Voter fraud” means “this individual person cast a fraudulent ballot.” Voter Fraud it a crime and to prove Voter Fraud, you must have the fraudulent ballot AND the person who cast it.

    If someone backs a dump truck up to the door of the counting center and unloads 94,000 fraudulent ballots, you can’t prove “Voter Fraud” because you don’t have the individual who filled in the ovals on the ballots. No evidence. No conviction.

    BUT . . . that’s different from Election Fraud, which is what we’re actually talking about in this column. The evidence of election fraud is the huge pile of fraudulent ballots on the floor, or in the USB drive. It doesn’t matter WHO committed the fraud, it matters THAT fraud was committed, which it obviously was because look at the huge pile of ballots that nobody can legitimately account for.

    The evidence of Election Fraud cited by reputable news organizations and by Democrat Senator Klobuchar in other elections at home and abroad includes expert testimony about statistical anomolies in key counties but nowhere else, eyewitness testimony that government officials excluded election viewers who might have detected election fraud, and testimony that voting machines have a history of incorrectly reporting vote totals.

    The prosecution couldn’t convince the jury that OJ killed Nicole, but she’s still dead. We may not be able to prove WHO stole the election, but it was still stolen.

  5. I listened to William Bennett on Fox News say that this election was “stolen.” He was asked to provide evidence. He couldn’t provide any evidence. He said the race was stolen because, and I quote: “what happened just doesn’t feel right.”

    These Trumpalos and their feelings….

  6. Emery still can’t figure out that the system is designed to hide fraudulent ballots once they’re counted, and hence proving election fraud is intentionally difficult, I see.

    And of course, insisting on convictions and court rulings when any sane person would know how difficult it is to get them is a nice little diversionary tactic, isn’t it?

    My take on all this is that the bulk of public officials are not going to take action until they have a degree of evidence that can no longer be ignored. One thing the GOP (or other interested groups) can do is to go through voter rolls to find instances of known dead voters, voters registered at non-residential addresses, improbable numbers of voters at a given address, likely felon voters, improbable numbers of votes vs. registered voters, and the like. Those whose business it is to do voter contacts (the source of all that junk mail we get) routinely get copies of voter registrations–I did it for my brother when he was in the business. On an individual basis, you can look up whether your dead relatives are still registered to vote. I just did for some of my grandparents. (thankfully no “hits”)

    Start with the places that were counting votes in the dead of night (not many people do their best work at 3am!) and expelling poll watchers, progress to other “interesting” sites, see what we find. At the very least, we can at least make it marginally more difficult to cheat.

    And for those with a bit more time, yes, register as a poll watcher and go.

  7. Threadjack. Nothing in the trollbot comments says anything about how to improve the integrity of the process as JD opined n the actual thread. Instead… more threadjacking.

  8. Before the Election Andrew McCarthy at NR was pounding on the drum calling for the various Courts to make Rulings on process questions BEFORE the votes were cast and counted for the exact same reasons JD mentions, post vote counting rulings are tainted by knowledge of how it will affect the outcome. Instead, SCOTUS justices made polite requests that States segregate ballots in case a decision will be needed after the Election. As I recall, some jurisdictions ignored those requests.
    Post Election, Sarah Isgur and David French at The Dispatch have been predicting that the majority of court cases will be dismissed on the grounds that a Decision won’t affect the outcome of the Election. From the sounds of it, Trump Campaign lawyers and their allies haven’t even been putting together very many Cases that will get that far.

    Whenever I talk about Election Integrity with people I can at least factually state that my position hasn’t changed in 10 years. MN has an Election System that is systemically vulnerable fraud; no Voter ID, no provisional ballots, vouching, etc. That position, of course, makes me horrible racist, misogynist, white supremacist, yadda yadda yadda.

  9. The rules put in place by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court for 2020 allow:

    *Mail-in ballots to be received and counted up to three days after Election Day if they were postmarked on or before Nov. 3.

    *Ballots that arrived late without a postmark must be presumed to have been mailed before Election Day “unless a preponderance of the evidence demonstrates that it was mailed after Election Day.”

    *Signatures on the mail-in ballots don’t have to match those on record to be counted.

    The reprobates refused to allow GOP observers to stand closer than 50′ The GOP also had to go to federal court to force the reprobates to follow the law. By the time they were finally admitted, Sniffin’ Joe had already posted a miraculous comeback; nuffin’ to see here, folks.

    The PA Supreme court is an elected body, elected in partisan campaigns. Every PA justice is Democrat. You can’t prove leftist fuckery in a state where the court has made fraud legal.

    Less than 1/3 of Americans believe this was an honest election. That’s about the same percentage that believes the Apollo mission was faked. We have a surplus of very stupid people in this country, and if the reprobates have their way, there will be a lot more.

  10. “This claim, like Frankenstein’s Monster, has been haphazardly stitched together… This Court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations, unpled in the operative complaint and unsupported by evidence. In the United States of America, this cannot justify the disenfranchisement of a single voter, let alone all the voters of its sixth most populated state. Our people, laws, and institutions demand more.” ~ Judge Matthew W. Brann of the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Pennsylvania

  11. Long post coming. TL;dr version: there’s plenty of evidence of election fraud, but Liberals refuse to recognize it.

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    Liberals keep asking “where’s the evidence?” as if they know what they are talking about. To ask the question is to demonstrate that no, they have no idea what they are talking about.

    “Evidence” is the word that covers any form of information which might be offered in a court proceeding. The form of the evidence could be oral testimony, sign language, written documentation, photos or video or audio recording.

    Relevant Evidence means evidence having any tendency to make the existence of any fact that is of consequence to the determination of the action more probable or less probable than it would be without the evidence.

    Evidence is further divided into Direct Evidence which proves a fact directly; and Circumstantial Evidence which proves it indirectly. Both are evidence, both can be relevant, both can be admissible.

    Max Cossak (a law school classmate who is much smarter than I am) made an excellent point in a comment on Powerline that I’ve stolen and am paraphrasing here. People think DNA evidence is direct evidence but it’s not, it’s actually circumstantial evidence. A witness takes the stand to testify that DNA found on the victim is similar to the Defendant’s DNA. The witness NEVER says, “They’re a match, he did it.” The witness ALWAYS says, “There is a 1 in X chance that it’s NOT the Defendant’s DNA.” Juries routinely convict on evidence of statistical probability.

    Statistical evidence of election fraud was admitted in federal court in Donohue v. Board of Elections of State of New York, 435 F. Supp. 957 (E.D.N.Y. 1976). It can be admitted in the cases brought by President Trump and Sidney Powell, challenging this election. The court can order a new election based on the statistical evidence of election fraud.

    And that’s the reason Liberals won’t admit there’s any evidence: because to concede that statistical evidence of election fraud exists is to open the door to a new election, a monitored election, a fair election, which is the very last thing Liberals want.

  12. Seems odd Trump hasn’t utilized Election Law Attorneys.

    “You need a legal violation to go to court.” ~
    Don McGahn (Trump’s former White House counsel)

    Trump is taking what he learned from WWE WrestleMania and applying it to the legal system. WWE survives on the premise that everyone is in on the lie and pretends it is legitimate and normal.

    Victory is defined by who tells the most entertaining lie.

  13. Emery, quit while you’re behind. Once again, you ignore the multiple sworn affidavits from witnesses to fraud. I’m not thinking that these people want to risk a term in a federal prison for lying. I know that it’s second nature to dolts like you. The first thing every criminal says, when they have been caught is “I didn’t do it”.

    If there is no fraud, why did an FBI agent try to get a USPS worker to recant his affidavit? If Dominion is clean, why did they bail on their scheduled hearing with the PA legislature, then lawyer up?

    Oh, and because I know that you are too narrowly focused to have noticed, Sidney Powell’s suit, is related to criminal actions. Trump’s team is focused on the election.

    Sorry, dude, but you lefties are just whistling past the graveyard.

  14. Joe forgot a couple other methods of illegal voting.

    A person should only be able to vouch for 3 voters. I have heard of one person vouching for a lot of people as shown in the Project Veritas video. As far as I’m aware, nobody ever checks on that.

    The other method is same day registration. Those votes should be held out until the county receives confirmation that the address is valid. Each year, thousands of these verifications are returned as undeliverable or ignored since the voter apparently doesn’t live there.

    The only way to fix this is a clean sweep of Governor, House, and Senate so it’s unlikely. We do need to make sure Simon is slapped down so hard that he won’t try bending the rules again.

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