The Reichstag Phone Call

Like we couldn’t see this coming:

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer is warning that some of his Democratic colleagues are being threatened with violence when they go back to their districts — and he wants Republicans to stand up and condemn the threats.

Hey, everyone; don’t threaten Congresspeople.

The Maryland Democrat said more than 10 House Democrats have reported incidents of threats or other forms of harassment about their support of the highly divisive health insurance overhaul vote.

Wow.  If true, this sounds like a real huge wave of lunacy…

…oh, wait:

Hoyer emphasized that he didn’t have a specific number of threats and that was just an estimate.

Yeah, I’ll bet it is.

I’ll bet three more things:

  1. That this announcement was planned at least a week ago.
  2. That the number of “threats of violence” varies no more than 10-15% from normal.
  3. That Mr. Hoyer will never release any details of any of these threats for public examination.  Indeed, he can’t – because he doesn’t have any specifics.  He’s passing off gossip to defame dissenters.  Five’ll get you ten that there are no more serious, significant threats than normal during any contentious debate.

Expect much, much more of this between now an November.

And every time  you see this, ask to see the specifics.  When you’re at a Tea Party and see someone with a threatening or racist sign, snap a picture and post it on a blog.

This is how smear machines work.

31 thoughts on “The Reichstag Phone Call

  1. It’s hard to be worried about violence when the Tea Toads can’t even get the address right. Money quote:

    “(Tea Party organizer) Troxel, a 2005 graduate of Liberty University, added ‘I was a journalism major in college, so I have every reason to believe my research is accurate.’”

    He had me at “…a 2005 graduate of Liberty University…”.

  2. wrong on this one Mitch.
    The capital police have confirmed the threats to members of congress; their overtime this week is enormous.

    There are confirmed instances of death threats to entire families, and at least one instance of a propane line being cut in an attempt to damage the home of a member of congress by cutting a gas line, except because the tea party blogger who posted the info on the internet got the wrong address – it turned out to be the congressman’s brother’s home by mistake. There death threats extend to grandchildren in one case. Bricks, multiple instances, have been thrown threw windows in conjunction with threats – again, verified. The death threat recordings are being played on news stations. I’m surprised you missed it.

  3. One of the most tragic aspects of all this is that so many of those who are making these threats have failed to do basic fact checking – may I recommend politifact.com, the pulitzer award winning source as an example.

    NO abortion funding in the health care legislation and other myths about the new law are exploded.

    Deem and pass as it was proposed to be used, but discarded, was NOT the travesty or as unusual as it was portrayed.

    Sadly, some of the same misinformation that is turning up on those calls has been promoted HERE.

    FACT CHECK it.

  4. Sure Doggie. Obama is going out on the campaign trail to try and sell this wildly popular law to the American people. Cause the last 13 months of campaigning weren’t enough to convince us our overlords know what’s best.

  5. But people on the left would never, ever publish personal info about their opponents, would they?
    http://michellemalkin.com/2009/06/02/gay-marriage-mob-harasses-petition-signers-in-washington-state/

    A group called WhoSigned.org says it will publicize the names of people signing petitions for Referendum 71, which seeks a public vote to overturn a new expansion of Washington’s same-sex partnerships.

    WhoSigned.org says it’s partnering with the gay rights group KnowThyNeighbor.org to put the names online.

    In a statement Monday, WhoSigned.org says it expects people who see the names online to contact the signers for what may be uncomfortable talks about gay rights.

  6. Sure, Doggie, there is a lot of work to do. But do you know how it works? Someone powerful reports something, do you think that the DC police are going to treat everything that you or I might report like they’ll do a Congressman’s complaint?

    I heard NPR play some of those threats this morning. It was very interesting. The worst “threat” was someone saying “I hope you die!” My, what a dire threat! Like there’s a Congresscreep who hasn’t heard that from old girlfriends or bedmates…

    Most of the other “threats” were profanity laden rants about how the Congressdung were abusing their power; again, not threating, just insulting the Congresscreep.

  7. a. . . . t least one instance of a propane line being cut in an attempt to damage the home of a member of congress by cutting a gas line, except because the tea party blogger who posted the info on the internet got the wrong address – it turned out to be the congressman’s brother’s home by mistake.
    So the facts are . . . a congressman’s brother had his address posted online. The brother had a propane gas line cut on his Weber. Or he reported it cut.
    There is almost no information available, other than attempt to link this reported event to a specific political activist web site.
    The FBI is investigating. Why? It does say that the local fire marshall is investigating along with the FBI. Why not the local police?
    I smell a rat.

  8. DG, I trust that you might be correct that there may have been death threats.

    Please let us know that you have also verified this by providing details of any convictions.

    ….

    “I want you to argue with them and get in their face.” – Barack Obama
    Inciting aggression/violence toward neighbors that don’t support this ObamaNation.

  9. Kermit, linking to a group of bloggers that actually push for more government and more government control instead of repealing bad legislation and bad statues isn’t the way make a conservative case. 😉

  10. DG,

    Threats are bad.

    But I maintain that this will end up to be much ado about nothing smearing disssenters.

    Like a petty, venal little Reichstag fire.

  11. The more I read about this ‘cut propane line’ incident, the more it looks like the murdered census worker fraud. Dog Gone fell for that one as well, I think.
    It was a line between a small propane tank and a grill, kept on the brother’s screened-in porch. Why cut the line? Grill setups sold for the last decade or so have special safety features built into them so they don’t spew gas if the line is broken. We’re supposed to believe that some political terrorist crept onto the brother’s screened-in porch while he was at home (thinking it was the congressman’s house), found his Weber, whipped out his buck knife, cut the line, then fled? And this was supposed to accomplish what, exactly?
    Bull shit.

  12. Hey, all. Threadjacking happens.

    But I’d really appreciate keeping feuds from other blogs off of mine.

    Capisce?

    Thanks for seeing to this.

  13. The more I read about this ‘cut propane line’ incident, the more it looks like the murdered census worker fraud

    Yep. Whenever I hear “threat”, I think of all of the hoax “hate crimes” that’ve happened in recent years. And when people claim actual crimes from the right, I think Sparkmann, the Pentagon shooter and the Texas plane-crasher. All of them initially blamed on the right; all of them either defamatory hoaxes or left-wingers whose stories got hijacked to defame the right anyway.

    Think Hoyer is above it? Pffft.

    Sorry, DG. When it comes to lefties’ claims, it’s “distrust but verify”.

  14. We’re supposed to believe that some political terrorist crept onto the brother’s screened-in porch while he was at home (thinking it was the congressman’s house), found his Weber, whipped out his buck knife, cut the line, then fled? And this was supposed to accomplish what, exactly?

    I blame teabagger raccoons.

  15. For reference, it was Republican Congressman Mickey Cantor whose office was shot at…..now we don’t know exactly who it was, of course, but our first guess would need to be someone on the “left.”

    And I’ll believe the Capitol police on threats to Democrats when a little thing called “evidence” is provided. A press statement by the police whose pay is set by Madame Pelosi doesn’t qualify.

  16. back on topic, How dare us peasants question our leaders and yes there are crazies, on all sides. Does the left honestly think that there are no threats against repubs in congress as a result of this debate? The only difference is they quietly hire more security and go about their business and not try and score cheap political points. I think that this will end up blowing back in their faces. And lets be honest if this was the reverse the media would be calling republicans “pussies” for complaining about it. psst… MSM your bias is really showing.

  17. The story that the gas line was intentionally cut does not come from the FBI or the fire marshal. It comes from Perriello’s office.

    Troxel writes an interesting defense of his decision to post what he thought was Perriello’s address here:

    http://tinyurl.com/y8fan9p

    It’s a google cache, the original page is swamped and will not respond.

    He also corrects the quote St Paul Timmy made fun of. Timmy should learn not to trust agenda-driven reporting.

  18. Leftist dim-wits like teh peevee and deegee will spend half an hour crafting mini-series length posts, citing phantom collaborations with persons of note, accomplishments and importance of their own positions which no one, and I mean no one, takes for anything other than the mendacious attempt to bolster their low self-esteem that it is.

    And then, mistaken in the belief that they have lent themselves the gravitas they will never command, they then follow it with just two or three sentences that leave no doubt as to their true, confused, dim-witted conditions.

    Teh peevee and deegee are poster children for the “scary smart, reality based community”.

  19. ermit, just the facts, ma’am. 8)

    “Threats are bad.”

    Generally speaking, Mitch, and always when it comes to violent threats, but if the legislators start going against the will of the people their re-election aspirations should be threatened.

  20. Instapundit & others are doing a push-back on some of these stories. A recurring theme is that MSM (and lefty bloggers & pundits) are simply redistributing Democrat press releases.

  21. A recurring theme is that MSM (and lefty bloggers & pundits) are simply redistributing Democrat press releases.

    Well, at least someone is telling the truth. 🙂

  22. “A recurring theme is that MSM (and lefty bloggers & pundits) are simply redistributing Democrat press releases.”

    In other words, business as usual.

  23. Dog Gone said:

    “pulitzer award”

    Oh yes, that journalism back slapping award from journalists to other journalists. Who gives those out again?

    * Anders Gyllenhaal, Executive Editor, The Miami Herald
    * Thomas Friedman, Columnist, The New York Times
    * Jay Harris (co-chair), Wallis Annenberg Chair, Director, Center for the Study of Journalism and Democracy, Annenberg School for Communication, University of Southern California
    * Lee Bollinger, President, Columbia University
    * Danielle Allen, Professor, Departments of Classics and Political Science and the Committee on Social Thought, University of Chicago
    * Jim Amoss, Editor, The Times-Picayune, New Orleans, Louisiana
    * Amanda Bennett, Executive Editor/Enterprise, Bloomberg News
    * Kathleen Carroll, Executive Editor and Senior Vice President, Associated Press
    * Joyce Dehli, Vice President for News, Lee Enterprises
    * Paul Gigot, Editorial Page Editor, The Wall Street Journal
    * Sig Gissler, Administrator, Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism
    * David M. Kennedy, Donald J. McLachlan Professor of History, Stanford University
    * Nicholas Lemann, Dean, Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism
    * Ann Marie Lipinski, former Senior Vice President and Editor (2001–2008), Chicago Tribune
    * Gregory Moore, Editor, The Denver Post
    * Richard Oppel (co-chair), former Editor (1995–2008), Austin American-Statesman
    * Paul Tash, Editor, CEO, and Chairman, St. Petersburg Times

    Yeah, I recognize some of those names, but not in a good way.

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