Timing
By Mitch Berg
I’ve had some Republican friends express dismay about the timing of the Dobbs decision at the Supreme Court. They fear is going to turn out a biblical wave of “progressive“ voters.
Not without justification, they recall the debacle of the gay marriage amendment in Minnesota in 2012, which splattered with enough force to take out the voter ID proposal.
Of course, that vote coincided with Barack Obama‘s reelection bid; progressives turned out for that, as well.
As for today?
The media will do their darndest to convince voters that everything is hunky-dory by this fall.
How gullible will they be? We’ll see what a difference five months can make.
May 16th, 2022 at 8:23 am
If the pro-choice forced thought that they had the votes, they wouldn’t lose their shit at the idea of putting abortion rights on the ballot.
May 16th, 2022 at 8:30 am
SCOTUS obviates the entire premise of Stare Decisis and your reaction is “how will this impact our chances for election victory”? Sheesh.
Alito’s opinion essentially says SCOTUS can capriciously decide any case, nothing is certain, nothing secure, and you are worried about votes? Why, exactly? Given you’ll just lie and claim voter fraud if you don’t like the outcome anyway? Shredding yet another pillar of our democracy?
I know you won’t comment on that nor will you comment on the three shootings this weekend which completely debunk (yet again) your claims that “what stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.” Remember that your 2nd Amendment rights also are at risk from Alito’s decision once the worm turns against you.
In Milwaukee, 5 youth shoot up a street, injuring 17 people. Presumably all five were acting illegally but we don’t know that yet. Some may have just been defending themselves, yet, what we do know is that some innocent folks got hurt too in the hail of bullets, and THAT’s what is going to happen as more people are armed.
In California, some unarmed people tackled a man with a gun and disarmed him. Didn’t need a firearm, no bystanders were shot.
In Buffalo, an 18 year-old “man” walks in and, after being shot by a “good man”, but protected by a tactical vest, proceeds to shoot 13 people, killing 10. No, the good guy did not stop him, but what we do see is as people who may commit violence now that people are armed, they will arm themselves with more deadly firepower (as the police warned) and/or attempt to ensure their safety with with ballistic protection. In short, an arms race where we see criminality use greater and greater firepower and armor, so “arming” yourself accomplishes nothing unless you have the current “best.” and are walking around in armor yourself.
If telling women that if they get an ectopic pregnancy (when TRYING to get pregnant) or telling 1/3 of all first time moms (as 1/3rd roughly of all first pregnancies fail to attach to the uterine wall/aren’t viable and/or miscarry), if telling all of them that they MUST carry that non-viable pregnancy until it gets infected and potentially kills them, telling that mom with the ectopic pregnancy which has about a .00001% (?) chance to deliver and a 25% chance or higher of killing them – if THAT trampeling of their own right to determine their own risks, including by the way the determination that woman and her spouse are allowed to make right now, is your idea of what represents a good SCOTUS decision and all you worry about is whether you’ll lose some votes, they you have the “democracy” you deserve – go buy your body armor but don’t expect to keep it.
May 16th, 2022 at 8:38 am
^^Utterly unhinged. Paddyboy is insane.
Paddyboy would have upheld Dred Scott on the principal of stare decisis:
In March of 1857, the United States Supreme Court, led by Chief Justice Roger B. Taney, declared that all blacks — slaves as well as free — were not and could never become citizens of the United States. The court also declared the 1820 Missouri Compromise unconstitutional, thus permiting slavery in all of the country’s territories.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aia/part4/4h2933.html
May 16th, 2022 at 8:41 am
Well paddyboi is off his meds again suggesting that after being settled law for 50+ years stare decisis dictates that Brown v Board of Education wrongly overturned Plessy v Ferguson.
May 16th, 2022 at 8:59 am
The Supreme Court is not the Pope. Its decisions are not infallible. Stare Decises says that earlier decisions should not be lightly set aside for transitory or popularity reasons; but when those earlier decisions are discovered to be incorrect, they must be set aside to restore integrity to the body of law. The Supreme Court is acting in the highest tradition of any judicial body by correcting its own mistakes, sending these issues back to the states where the people can act through their elected representatives.
Liberals are threatened by representative democracy. They know they can’t win at the polls. That’s why they favor imposing their policies by fiat (executive order or judicial opinion). That’s why they threaten to pack the court with more Liberal justices, why they threaten to strip other fundamental rights as punishment for letting the people decide for themselves. It’s bullying, as Justice Thomas said.
The Supreme Court agreed some limits on the exercise of Second Amendment rights have always been permissible (minors, criminals, the insane). This weekend’s shootings say nothing about the Second Amendment and everything about Liberals’ wrong-headed, stupid policies on crime prevention and mental health treatment. And if the people’s elected representatives vote to restrict abortion in dire situations, that decision also would be wrong-headed and stupid but it would still be legal, because that’s the way the American system works.
The thing that infuriates Liberals the most is being ordinary citizens instead of dictator-for-life. If only they could kill everyone who doesn’t obey them, then the world would be perfect.
May 16th, 2022 at 9:02 am
“I’ve had some Republican friends express dismay about the timing of the Dobbs decision at the Supreme Court. They fear is going to turn out a biblical wave of “progressive“ voters.”
Jeeze, that would be awful. The future of America is in the balance. If we don’t get McConnell some more compassionate conservatives in the House, White Supremacists ™ will take over!!1!!
Teh Peevee, I’ve heard about the Zanax shortage TFG caused…are you suffering, li’l buddy? Want a kitten to hold?
May 16th, 2022 at 9:03 am
Yeah, skip pudding boy: tldr.
As to the media trying to sell a fairy tale, not a chance. Inflation isn’t going away, sadly, baby formula shortages, and just wait until people want to go on their car vacations this summer. With gas prices as they are, those plans are going to change, and not for the better.
Grey Goose Pelosi is talking about price controls, so that will induce shortages. Plus the summer of rage, when the decent people of this country see more rioting and violence from the left, yeah, not gonna be a good election for the dems.
May 16th, 2022 at 9:30 am
Meanwhile, demented Piglosi thinks it’s a good idea to use taxpayer money to make a congressional bar/liquor store. Great idea! As if congress isn’t impaired enough! Well, peasants, go eat your cake!
May 16th, 2022 at 10:52 am
Re: 2A The good news is that precedent can now be wholly disregarded. Back to limiting gun ownerships to militia members.…
May 16th, 2022 at 12:03 pm
^^Again, Emery demonstrates that he has not read Alito’s Dobbs opinion, and does not understand the relationship between the constitution and the supreme court.
The original meaning of the word “bigot” was a person who arrived at a position via ignorance and/or stupidity, yet holds on to that opinion ferociously.
Emery is a bigot.
May 16th, 2022 at 12:11 pm
Jeeze, that would be awful. The future of America is in the balance. If we don’t get McConnell some more compassionate conservatives in the House, White Supremacists ™ will take over!!1!!
This would be my reaction too. Are these “Republican friends expressing dismay” the same ones who advise reasonableness? Fact-based discussions? No mean tweets?
Jeez louiz, you have the majority on your side. Act like it.
May 16th, 2022 at 12:15 pm
If the Dems controlled the SC, imagine the joy of Pelosi, Liz Warren, Chuck Schumer, Joe Biden, and of course Emery, upon hearing that five liberal justices had ignored stare decisis and voted to overturn DC versus Heller.
The arguments against Alito’s opinion are so weak that progressives don’t attack it directly, instead they have developed a sudden new respect for precedent while mentioning other, more popular SC decisions which they have deluded themselves into believing are subject to the arguments made against Roe by Alito in Dobbs.
May 16th, 2022 at 12:20 pm
Roe v Wade is already a compromise, and the numbers of people on every side of it show that is exactly what a compromise looks like. The right wing wants to claim it represents an extreme.
May 16th, 2022 at 12:30 pm
No, the right wing wants to claim it was an attempt to overthrow the government. That’s why we’re so glad it’s being reversed.
We have three branches, E. Three. They have different jobs and the Judicial Branch has no business legislating public policy. It did so in Roe, everybody knew it, but it took until now to get rid of enough usurpers to set things right.
May 16th, 2022 at 12:43 pm
Emery believes that abortion up to the moment of birth, no parental notification for minors seeking an abortion, and forcing pro-life physicians to perform abortions is a “compromise.”
You are seeing why Emery is so often proven wrong in his predictions, he is incapable of using reason to arrive at a conclusion.
May 16th, 2022 at 12:51 pm
This reflects the politicization of the Supreme Court. If precedents can so easily be cast aside, the conservative court is now free to bend law to the will of the GOP. Rather than being simply a judicial branch that rules according to law and precedent, they can act as a legislating arm of government. New generals for the Culture Wars.
May 16th, 2022 at 1:17 pm
Dobbs CORRECTS the politicization of the Supreme Court, which Liberals instituted and desperately want to preserve because it’s the only way they can force upon society their vision of the ‘perfect’ society, one which they don’t dare let the citizens vote on because it will be resoundingly rejected.
May 16th, 2022 at 2:12 pm
You know, Emery, one would think that you would actually know what you’re talking about, before you write.
You morons that push the lie that overturning Roe, means a total ban on abortion. This illustrates that if we took every libidiot that believes the lie in a room, collectively, there would be no critical thinking skills in that room. These same people cried, wailed and gnashed their teeth when Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg died. Even she saw that it was flawed, stating that it “would end up on the scrap heap of bad laws.”
May 16th, 2022 at 3:15 pm
Edward Lazarus, one time clerk to Justice Blackmun:
As a matter of constitutional interpretation and judicial method, Roe borders on the indefensible. I say this as someone utterly committed to the right to choose, as someone who believes such a right has grounding elsewhere in the Constitution instead of where Roe placed it, and as someone who loved Roe’s author like a grandfather. . . . .
What, exactly, is the problem with Roe? The problem, I believe, is that it has little connection to the Constitutional right it purportedly interpreted. A constitutional right to privacy broad enough to include abortion has no meaningful foundation in constitutional text, history, or precedent. …
The proof of Roe’s failings comes not from the writings of those unsympathetic to women’s rights, but from the decision itself and the friends who have tried to sustain it. Justice Blackmun’s opinion provides essentially no reasoning in support of its holding. And in the almost 30 years since Roe’s announcement, no one has produced a convincing defense of Roe on its own terms.
May 16th, 2022 at 3:21 pm
MP, almost as bad as Obergefell v. Hodges:
“If, even as the price to be paid for a fifth vote, I ever joined an opinion for the Court that began: “The Constitution promises liberty to all within its reach, a liberty that includes certain specific rights that allow persons, within a lawful realm, to define and express their identity,” I would hide my head in a bag. The Supreme Court of the United States has descended from the disciplined legal reasoning of John Marshall and Joseph Story to the mystical aphorisms of the fortune cookie.” – Justice Scalia
I miss that man.
May 16th, 2022 at 3:53 pm
Obergefell v. Hodges… ah, the good ol’ days. We’re only looking for tolerance, maybe a little respect. We would never take advantage of a law or judicial policy to bully normal people around and attempt to convert their kids to life of sodomy and sexual perversions until their innocent glow and joie de vivre is gone and they commit suicide at 24. Oh, yeah, and you’re welcome for HIV/AIDS.
May 16th, 2022 at 5:29 pm
“Hell, yes, we’re going to take your butt weddings, your pedophilia.”
“We’re not going to allow it to be used against our fellow Americans anymore”
May 16th, 2022 at 8:32 pm
Obergefell is bad because, once again, you have the court supplanting the role of legislators.
The founders were actually pretty clever. Their goal was not to create a federal government that would crap out the current elite idea of “justice,” it was to create a durable republic.
Progressives don’t care about creating a durable republic.