Joe Manchin ain’t much of one.
But…:
Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) came out against his party’s push for gun control this week, saying that he does not support bills that were recently passed in the House.
“What the House passed? Not at all,” Manchin said, according to The Hill.DailyWire
“I come from a gun culture. I’m a law-abiding gun owner,” Manchin said, adding that he supports background checks on commercial transactions because the seller in that case does not know the buyer.
“If I know a person, no,” Manchin added.
…barring a pretty decent showing in 2022, he’s all we’ve got.
Sadly, a couple of Manchin’s Republican colleagues, still don’t trust him to stand up to Schumer. Ted Cruz observed that he talks the talk, but he’s seen the tremendous pressure that several Dems put on him, every time he bucks the narrative. Consequently, he ends up caving in.
That said, a friend that travels to WVA frequently for business, says that if he ends up supporting either the elimination of the filibuster and/or gun control, let alone H.R. 1, his time in the Senate, is probably done.
If you are relying on one person to stand between you and the deluge, you are making a mistake.
The reason we have to rely on that “one man” is because all of our cultural institutions have been subverted. We have boy scouts of America recruiting gay scout leaders, journalists and librarians who stand four square in favor of censorship, academics who oppose the teaching of truth, and artists who glorify the ugly and repulsive.
On the filibuster issue, Kyrsten Sinema is standing pretty strong against eliminating it, too. It’s really fun to watch the lefties go apoplectic over her moderate stance. They are calling her such standard leftist speak as, an opportunist, a DINO, a sell out and a traitor.
The President told the media:
” . . . we are not just going to be waiting for legislation in order to make sure that we’re providing Americans the kind of help that they need. I’ve got a pen, and I’ve got a phone. And I can use that pen to sign executive orders and take executive actions and administrative actions that move the ball forward . . . .”
Democrats don’t need Joe Manchin to enact gun control. It’s happening on Good Friday, whether Joe Biden knows it or not.
The thing that troubles me now is that Biden seems to be transparently trying to bribe Manchin by giving his wife a plush job. Um, no, Joe, not how it’s suppose to work, we had Tammany Hall a while back and decided that was a bad thing.
Mitch, you got fucking nothing! Get it through your dull head that Munchkin is not your savior. He voted with Dems every… fucking… time… when it mattered. Repeat after me: every… fucking… time…! And now that Bidon gave his wife a cushy job, are you fucking kidding us? You STILL believe Munchkin is a savior? You are so naive you make Pollyanna blush.
Representative Lauren Boebert referred to “God-given Constitutional right” in the context of a Second Amendment discussion. Is there a religious basis behind the free exercise of bearing arms?
Instead on “Gun Control” — I like “Gun Responsibility”. It puts the focus on the gun owner and does not connote government oversight.
1) The arms need to be registered and licensed.
2) The owners must obtain the proper liability insurance to own them. BB gun, low liability. AR-15, very high liability.
3) Pass an exam showing the owner is competent to own a weapon.
4) Background check before purchase is allowed.
Please explain to me what’s unconstitutional about these conditions. Oh, if you feel they are, then we can default to requiring all gun owners to part of a “well regulated militia.”
The Emery Collective fails to understand the philosophical basis of the United States form of government as set forth in the Preamble to the Constitution, that whole bit about “endowed by their Creator.” They (members of the Emery Collective) think “rights” are actually “privileges” granted by the government.
That’s why the Collective’s proposals stand a legal tradition spanning 800 years on its head. Instead of citizens men being able to do anything which wasn’t prohibited by law, they see us as subjects who are prohibited from doing anything which isn’t expressly permitted by their overlords in government. Magna Carta? Never heard of it.
Instead of firearms, substitute “voters” or “persons seeking an abortion.” Registered, licensed, pass a competency exam including a criminal background check. Explain to me what’s unconstitutional about those conditions?
Ah, I see. The old — “philosophical basis”.
Well, to be fair, it’s also Supreme Court precedent. The reason Heller and MacDonald were decided as they were, is the Supreme Court accepted the Founding Father’s “endowed by their Creator” statement in the Constitution. The logical consequence of rights having been given to people by God is that the rights existed before the government did; therefore, the government cannot be the source of the rights and has only limited authority to curtail them.
You fail to understand the entire conceptual basis for the United States government which is why your analysis is literally unAmerican.
Joe nails it.
I would reiterate his last points. If law abiding citizens need to provide proper identification and be scrutinized by more than one gubmint agency, then need to take a gubmint approved course to carry, why don’t citizens that are eligible to vote at least need an ID verification? Apparently, all of these woke bastards that cry voter suppression, don’t see that they are practicing covert racism by insinuating that blacks and other minorities are too dumb to have, let alone obtain, an ID. Further, it’s lost on these same woke bastards that constantly point to other countries as their utopia, that those countries require ID to vote.
“I own an AR-15. If there’s a natural disaster in South Carolina where the cops can’t protect my neighborhood, my house will be the last one that the gang will come to, because I can defend myself.” ~ Lindsey Graham
Graham was scared of Trump’s tweets, but is totally psyched for single-handed gun battle to the death against rampaging street gangs.
Excuse me, 2 jab Tater.
When you have to pass a literacy test to vote, you can have your firearms test. Until then, GFY. How’s that?
Another item Emery cut-n-pasted without giving it any thought.
To begin with, look at what Graham actually said: “I own an AR-15. If there’s a natural disaster in South Carolina where the cops can’t protect my neighborhood, my house will be the last one that the gang will come to, because I can defend myself.”
Is there anything false in this statement?
Nope.
What about the premises?
A breakdown of law and order due to a natural disaster, law enforcement is absent, looters are threatening Graham’s neighborhood.
Emery thinks it is laughable to think an AR-15 would be helpful in this situation because . . .
He doesn’t say, and I can’t figure it out. I’m not stupid enough.
But you look around the web, and you see this quote in all the usual places, treated snarkily. But no one can actually say what was wrong with what Graham said.
This is typical: “ttps://www.cbsnews.com/news/lindsey-graham-ar-15-protect-home-gangs/
Note the level of hatred expressed in the article, supposedly from an “unbiased” news source. It begins with the headline “Senator Lindsey Graham says he has an AR-15 to protect his home from gangs”
Which is a lie. At no point did Graham say that the reason that he had an AR-15 to protect himself from gangs. He gave it as a reason to have an AR-15.
I have two handguns. I don’t have them so I can shoot people.
You do that a lot, E. You post some provocative Liberal idea and when you get schooled on it, you switch topics rather than defend your idea.
By the way, on re-reading my 10:54, I notice that my editing was messy. Should say “citizens AND FREE men” and also, I did not clarify that voting and abortion are not fundamental rights but merely derivative rights (implied in emanations or created by legislation). The point of using them in my example is to illustrate that if Liberals will accept no restrictions on derivative rights, they should accept none on fundamental rights. If Liberals today suddenly said, “Okay, we’ll accept those restrictions on voting and abortion if you’ll accept them on guns,” the answer still would be NO, because fundamental rights are entitled to greater protection than derivative rights.
Graham was scared of Trump’s tweets, but is totally psyched for single-handed gun battle to the death against rampaging street gangs.
Emery: Perhaps Graham remembers the sh*tshow in New Orleans that followed in the wake of Hurricane Katrina: There actually were gangs roving neighborhoods looking to prey on the defenseless while resources such as law-enforcement were stretched thin. “Only law enforcement are allowed to have weapons” was what one NOLA police superintendent said. I recall reading a story of one resident who had a generator and had an encounter with a group of “poor, misguided youth” who wanted to take it from him. His firearm dissuaded from their notion.
It doesn’t matter if the gun owner is outmatched or outgunned by the poor, misguided youth, it’s the fact that the gun owner is a hardened target. Why risk gunshot wounds or death trying to commit a criminal act against the gun owner when the unarmed homeowner is lower risk?
Regarding Emery’s list, I believe I’ve seen that before, but it really reads better in the original German; specifically the German firearms laws of the Weimar Republic, modified by Hitler to prohibit civilians (apart from favored elites) from owning their own guns. In 1938, Hitler used the registration records to confiscate thousands of guns from Jews just before Kristallnacht.
Similar things were done in the Soviet Union, Ottoman Turkey, and Communist China just before their genocides. Any requirement for registration, and that would include a requirement for liability insurance, is more or less a list for government officials to go door to door and confiscate guns. Hence it is an explicit contradiction of the 2nd Amendment, not to mention something anyone familiar with the genocides of the 20th century ought to abhor.
In the U.S., the requirements Emery states are among those that kept blacks from protecting themselves from the Klan and the like-mindless. So Emery, if you don’t mind, your ideas can just take a long walk off a short pier, or better yet, into the crater of Mauna Loa or Mauna Kea while they’re erupting.
“AR-15, very high liability.”
Why?
This is just more thoughtless Emery posting. He has drunk the Koolaid.
Rifles of all types are used in about 350 killings per year.
Truth is, he just wants to take people’s guns away because he does not like guns and he does not like the people who own them.
If the potential for violence was that easy to spot, there would be far fewer dead people.
“Truth is, he just wants to take people’s guns away because he does not like guns …”
That can’t be right, MO.
2 Jab Tater is a high powered lawyer, stock market deity, biologist, epidemiologist, real estate mogul and renowned BirKie shredder.
I find it highly unlikely he isn’t a world class sniper as well. Fact is, I bet he lives in Peevee’s famous cul-de-sac with other world notables.
What do you shoot, 2 Jab; Ruger Precision Rifle; Barrett; Remington 700; something you built yourself? tia Tater!
The saddest part of Democrats’ gun control agenda is their callous heartlessness toward vulnerable people who need help but don’t get it.
Yes, I’m talking about untreated mental health. The sex addict who shot up the massage parlours and the Syrian who shot up the grocery store both suffered from untreated mental health issues, amply recounted by family and friends but ignored by the media and politicians.
Democrats claim the problem is gun-nuts but the real problem is nuts who have guns. Taking the gun away from a killer doesn’t force him to be peaceful, it forces him to be resourceful. People are still going to die because we are focused on the tool, not the tool user.
“My Brother Ron” by Clayton Cramer remains the best explanation to date. The Kindle version is $1.50.
The saddest part of Democrats’ gun control agenda is their callous heartlessness…
For a smart guy, you sometimes amaze me JD.
Reprobates are scumbags; they are filth; they are a cancer on civilization. They will gladly destroy whomever, or whatever it takes to get their way. For the love of God; they applaud the bloody murder of millions of babies every fucking year, man! What more do you need to know?
Not but a few miles from you, right now, they are lynching a guy to further their anti-White pogram. That cop was an asshole; 99% of them are assholes. But he didn’t kill that violent, drug addled felon out of any vindictiveness. He most certainly didn’t kill him because he was black; he’d have done the same to anyone in the same situation.
They have zero fucks people are getting shot. Just look at the deliberate avoidance of focusing on the carnage in, well any black neighborhood in the country. They don’t wanna hear about it because the feral animals doing all the killing are focused on killing each other; they pose no threat to their control.
The only care reprobates have regarding mental patients is where to send the absentee ballot.
The Doc hits it outta the park.
He most certainly didn’t kill him because he was black; he’d have done the same to anyone in the same situation.
If Floyd had been a 40 year old white junkie, he would be just as dead, just as “murdered,” but no one would know his name, and Chauvin would be looking at a generous disability or retirement pension in a few years.
Everyone knows this, no one is saying it.
If the potential for violence was that easy to spot, there would be far fewer dead people.
Nah, it’s pretty easy to spot. The most lethal entity in this world as far as violence is concerned is called “government”. That’s why we limit its power with the “Constitution”, the “Bill of Rights”, and the like. The problem with government initiatives is not that “the right people weren’t running it”, but rather that “power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.”
Apart from government, the most lethal, murderous part of society is “children of unwed parents”, who have a murder rate about 7x or higher than their neighbors who grew up with married parents. A related cohort is “people with arrests and convictions for felonies, especially those involving violence.”
Really, that’s why the left leans so hard on gun control, but not on punishing criminals and restoring nuclear families. Their ideology is that government can take on the roles that family historically (and ethically) fills, and it just won’t do to show the world that only the family and the church can fill the roles of family and church, and it just won’t do to have the government pushed back into its proper role of punishing the wicked and commending the just.
To wit, look at murder rates in 2015 and last year in cities where the police “stood down” and didn’t arrest criminals at the rate they did prior to those times. Murder rates spiked, and it’s the poor (and children of unwed parents) that were hurt the worst.
Bad things happen when you forget what government is for, and no, it’s not unpredictable.
Apart from government, the most lethal, murderous part of society is “children of unwed parents”, who have a murder rate about 7x or higher than their neighbors who grew up with married parents.
Say it, Bubba. The most lethal, murderous part of society is “children of Black parents”. And the most dangerous threat to civilization are the children of White, leftist reprobates.
If our kids and grandkids are gonna survive this, we’re gonna need every one on the same page…the TRUTH. Don’t be shy. Say it often, man; say it loud.
If Floyd had been a 40 year old white junkie, he would be just as dead,
Guaranteed.
And if a White, 6′ 5″ dude passed a bogus Benjamín while high af, he would have been face down on the fucking pavement, just as quick.
The only diff is, Minneapolis wouldn’t be an empty, smoking ruins.
Still waiting for Emery to explain why it is absurd to want an AR-15 if the police can’t protect you and a marauding gang is attacking your home.
You know, because, as I wrote earlier, I am can’t think that stupid.
Maybe it involves a lot of sneering?
Like “Look at that guy! There’s no cops, a gang is attacking his house, and he’s going to defend his family (sneer) with an AR-15? (sneer) what a moron!”
Is that right, Emery? Is that how you think?
I’m actually curious, because, for the life of me, I can’t imagine why any human being would think that it is unreasonable to use an AR-15 to defend your home & family from an attack by a lawless gang if the police can’t help you.
Pete, it’s “children of unwed parents”, not “children of black parents.” When you factor for unwed parenting, the racial angle almost disappears. That’s why crime in regions with high unwed parenting by whites is higher, and that’s why crime in predominantly black areas only spiked after unwed parenting skyrocketed after about 1950. Interestingly and tellingly, the homicide rate really spiked about 15-20 years after the unwed parenting rate spiked–about the time for a child of unwed parents to come to adulthood and “prime murdering years.”
Tell the truth, but let’s not bring race into it when we don’t need to.
To expound on bike’s earlier comment, the KKK, aka southern Democrats, have fought hard against firearms for decades. They wanted to keep guns out of the hands of black people, largely out of fear that they would retaliate. The NRA was instrumental in ensuring that all citizens had the right to have firearms. In fact, they assisted the Deacons for Defense and Justice in getting the guns they needed. Most of the Deacons were military veterans and were required to be men of high moral character. If we look at cities that have stringent and draconian gun laws, they have a large black population. Sadly, these blacks are being used and sacrificed by the Dems for political points, but they are too blind to see it.
JD’s 3:14 post points out the crux of it. At least 90% of killers going back to Charles Whitman, had mental issues. Adam Lanza’s mom was a part of the federal indoctrination machine and she begged the schools and the state to help her. As usual, she got nothing, so Adam kills her, took her legally purchased rifle and headed for Sandy Hook. I say the 28 lives that were lost that day, including Adam’s, are primarily on the heads of those people that would not help his mother.
Who commits, by far, most gun crimes? From shooting people to illegal possession, illegal sale, straw buying, etc.?
Young minority men.
Who do progressives do everything they can to keep young minority men from going to jail? Young minority men.
Who do progressives want to see disarmed?
Middle aged white guys.
It’s insanity. As Bing Crosby sand in “The Legend of Sleepy Hollow,” ‘you can’t reason with a headless man.’
These people are f’n nuts.
Bubba, that’s ridiculous. The facts bring race into it, I’m merely observing them.
While it’s true that the destruction of the family is a major contributor to the epidemic of black violence and crime, it does not explain away the violent environment black kids grow up in.
There are plenty of White kids growing up without fathers, it’s a damn shame too. But we don’t see roving gangs of White boys preying on people like jackals on a rabbit. When was the last time a mob of White kids poured into a retail store, emptied the shelves and ran out? Where are the Tic Toc videos of White boys sneaking up behind elderly people and knocking them to the ground? White neighborhoods are not war zones.
It’s hard to speak the truth; I know. We have been conditioned to be tolerant towards blacks, to excuse them, to apologize for them. But it’s time to wake up to the simple fact that after 60 years of generous expenditures in child care, food, housing, preferential treatment in education and hiring, things are worse than ever among the black population. Now they’re openly attacking us. If we do not stick together and fight back, our country is lost. And that’s not hyperbole.
Yes, I’m talking about untreated mental health. The sex addict who shot up the massage parlours and the Syrian who shot up the grocery store both suffered from untreated mental health issues, amply recounted by family and friends but ignored by the media and politicians.
JD, I would go one further. It is not the ignoring part, it is the ENABLING part. It is 0bumbler’s policies that PREVENT school systems from identifying, arresting, giving help to the mentally challenged. demoncRats are in fact ENABLING the disturbed to go forth and multiply and commit mayhem and murder. It is the demoncRats who truly have blood on their hands. The trigger finger is attached to their grubby, filthy hands. For if the screwls were allowed to do their job, we would undoubtedly have less disturbed people on the street.
demoncRats are in fact ENABLING the disturbed to go forth and multiply
lol…one look at our new Ass’t Director of Health and Human Services confirms that beyond all doubt.