Monday Morning Quarterbacking

Joe Doakes from Como Park emails:

Democrats want me to believe 160,000 Americans died on Trump’s watch because he could have prevented the virus and didn’t; therefore. we should elect Biden to replace him

Really?

Perhaps someone could lay out the step-by-step plan by which President Trump could have prevented a virus from killing old sick people this Spring or the step-by-step-plan by which President Biden will prevent it from killing them next Winter.

A timetable and citations to statutory authority would be helpful.

Joe Doakes

40 thoughts on “Monday Morning Quarterbacking

  1. I hate to quibble — coronavirus deaths in the US are over 172,000 and on track for 300,000 by December 2020

    “Heck of a job” Donald! 😳

  2. I send emails to Mitch. He chooses which to use and when to use them, if at all. Sometimes my emails are overtaken by events. The number of deaths attributed to Covid might have changed; the essential point of the comment has not.

    Give us the list of things President Trump should have done differently, and when he should have done them.

  3. You beat me to it Joe: lets hear also what the Dems were suggesting BEFORE Trump acted, with citations please.

    Not hoping for much from the troll; probably some comment like “don’t change a thing Republicans” or some such.

    I’ll help you out emetic: in mid Feb Nazi Pelosi was urging people to go to Chinatown and party. In March, slow Joe was holding rallies.

  4. I’m still waiting on my requests for even just a something from a step-by-step plan, timetable or any citations to statutory authority.

    “Heck of a job” Emery!

  5. Actually, if you want to know how this all ends, I’ve figured it out.

    At some point in time the Democrats (the insiders, the power-brokers) will decide that this whole grift is not useful anymore and the message will go out to the media. There will be no more daily counts of this, that, and the other oh-so important statistic. Articles and opinion pieces will go out describing all the successes and how nice it is to be back to normal and how much we’ve learned and how we should all pat ourselves on the back for a job well done. State and local governments will be told to back off restrictions. In particular. all the germophobes who have been so important to keeping this grift going will suddenly be ignored, told to shut up, and/or ridiculed.

    Nothing of the underlying pandemic will change.

  6. It’s easy to go on YouTube and find videos of prominent Dems resisting Trump’s early suggestions that flights from China be curtailed. Or Dem politicians dancing in Chinatown proclaiming how safe it was. Perform a thought experiment and ask yourself what would’ve happened if Trump behaved like a real dictator and shut down all entry to the USA, pulling off a New Zealand maneuver. Bloody hell would have broken loose. The reliable Obama judicial appointees would have issued enough injunctions to travel to the moon and back.

  7. Two nights of the Dem national convention, and ZERO answers for anything, just Trump and America (and by way of extension Republican) hatred.

  8. I’ve listened to Trump followers tell me: “after November 3rd the coronavirus will magically disappear”….

  9. Emery, you don’t seem to be capable of following simple instructions and therefore are unable to respond intelligently to this post. Maybe it’s the ‘blank page’ problem, don’t know where to start? Let me help you out.

    Phase One – Detection

    December 31, 2019 – The first cases of Covid-19 are reported in China.

    January 20, 2020 – The first case of Covid-19 in the USA is found in Washington State but the patient doesn’t die.

    January 30, 2020 – The World Health Organization declares a pandemic.

    January 31, 2020 – President Trump ends flights from China.

    February 6, 2020 – The first US death from Covid-19, in California.

    Emery – what should President Trump have done differently to save American lives BEFORE the first US death occurred?

    We’ll explore later actions in subsequent phases of the pandemic. Start with this. Think you can do that?

  10. JD;

    Yea, it’s funny that a couple of us have laid these facts out to Emery before, in fact several times. We’ve pointed out that Trump followed what Emery and the left’s guru of all things medical, the lying, consistently wrong Dr. FAUXci and the Chinese controlled WHO said. Trump was even vilified for shutting off flights to and from China, unless they were U.S. citizens coming home and then shut off Europe, by the same people, including brain dead Emery, that are now blaming him. It’s no use. You would be better off arguing with a wall. You would at least get more intelligent responses from the wall.

  11. The US policy was full of holes. It did not apply to immediate family members of American citizens and permanent residents returning from China, for example. In the two months after the policy went into place, almost 40,000 people arrived in the United States on direct flights from China.

    Even more important, the policy failed to take into account that the virus had spread well beyond China by early February. Later data would show that many infected people arriving in the United States came from Europe. (The Trump administration did not restrict travel from Europe until March and exempted Britain from that ban despite a high infection rate there.) ~ NYT
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/06/us/coronavirus-us.html

    Why, at an early stage, Trump decided to promote miracle cures and magical thinking instead of following the science is the question that will be debated for years.

    In a pandemic, when short term political expediency drives decisions, the results are predictable.

    The Difference Between Genius And Stupidity Is That Genius Has Limits ~ Albert Einstein.

  12. One thing that Trump plausibly could have done would have been to instruct states to allow nursing homes to reject new residents who had not passed two consecutive COVID tests. All around the country, there are empty rural hospitals as a result of Obama’s Health Insurance Deform Act which could have been used to house COVID patients until they were cleared of the virus.

    Of course, that assumes that the “lifers” in the CDC and related agencies were on the ball enough to recognize what was going on, and had enough allegiance to the truth (and not just their agency or political agenda) to push for keeping COVID patients out of the big teaching hospitals like St. Mary’s in Rochester. I am not persuaded that this has occurred yet–there seems to be an entrenched resistance to the notion that we really ought to put sick people in a true quarantine in this country, especially among medical authorities. I don’t know why.

  13. Let’s review
    1. One week before Trump’s inauguration, officials briefed him on a likely viral pandemic.

    2. In 2017, Trump cut the Federal health dept. by nearly 18%.

    3. Trump was briefed on a 69-page NSC report in 2017 for dealing with a pandemic, “Playbook for Early Response to High-Consequence Emerging Infectious Disease Threats and Biological Incidents”.

    4. In 2018 Trump fired the NSC pandemic preparedness team and the global health security team.

    5. Jan. 2019, Dan Coates, head of DNI released the “worldwide threat assessment of the intelligence community report” which outlined a pandemic threat for Human Security and Global Health for the US.

    6. In 2019, Trump placed large tariffs on Chinese imports of medical supplies that would be needed to fight a pandemic, disrupting the supply chain.

    7. In 2019 a joint CDC/HHS exercise showed large problems with pandemic preparedness, Trump was briefed on this assessment.

    8. Alex Azar and Tim Morrison, senior director for weapons of mass destruction and biodefense on the NSC briefed Trump about the threat of a pandemic in 2019 at the BioDefense Summit.

    9. Trump is stalling the release of the 2020 Intel report which he knows warned that the U.S. isn’t ready for a global pandemic.

    10. In Dec 2019/Jan 2020 Trump received intelligence reports about the seriousness of the coronavirus threat, and he continued to downplay its severity in public, while some politicians played the market.

    11. For weeks in March 2020, State officials and hospitals have begged for more supplies using the Defense Production Act. Trump still waits, and is politicizing help based on party affiliations, and ties to donors & lobbyists.

    12. Trump doesn’t want any oversight of the historic funds he released using tax payer money.

    13. Two months before the novel coronavirus began spreading in Wuhan, Trump ended a $200-million program of US scientists working in the Wuhan lab who’s job was aimed at detecting novel coronaviruses.

  14. He also took a dump in the White House bathroom and played several rounds of golf. Telling me what he DID do isn’t telling me what he SHOULD have done differently, and WHEN. You’re still not telling us anything we didn’t already know.

    For example:

    In 2017, President Trump should have increased the Federal Health Department budget by 150% to prepare for a virus which did not yet exist, but might have, someday.

    or

    On December 31, 2019, when the Chinese reported the first case of Covid-19, President Trump should have declared a national quarantine and closed the borders and airways to all incoming traffic.

    Like that, E. Try again.

  15. Over 172,000 people in the U.S have died from coronavirus. This is what a colossal American failure looks like. Preventable catastrophic American failure.

    Let the voters decide….

  16. JD, good luck getting dragged down into the nether regions of idiocy on display here. So I don’t have to. Thank you.

  17. No, Emery, the majority of those who died lived in states run by Democratic governors who insisted that COVID patients be re-admitted to nursing homes without being cleared of the virus, and who insisted that mere time since diagnosis, not screening, was sufficient to allow workers to re-enter nursing homes.

    You want somebody guilty ,THERE YOU GO. We are talking about Cuomo, Granholm, Walz, Murphy, and other DEMOCRATS.

  18. You still don’t seem to get the idea, Emery. Here are a few suggestions to get you started:

    On February 6, 2020, as soon as the first person in the US died of Covid, President Trump should have issued an Executive Order banning interstate travel of any kind, to prevent the spread of the virus. No airplanes, no cars, no trucks full of food and toilet paper, no movement between states at all. The only exemption is for military movements.

    On February 7, 2020, President Trump should have ordered the armed forces to arrest any person testing positive for Covid and transport them to a secure holding facility in Kansas, to quarantine them from the nation to halt the spread of the virus.

    On February 10, 2020, President trump should have ordered the armed forces to arrest any lawyer or judge who attempted to contravene his executive orders through court action, and transport them to Quantanimo Bay to be held for trial as domestic terrorists.

    Now you try

  19. From my perspective it’s the many ways Trump failed to respond to the coronavirus that add up to his abject failure dealing with this crisis.

    Carry on…

  20. “From my perspective” doesn’t tell us what should have been done, or when, or how.

    What should the President have done to prevent Governors Cuomo and Walz from sending infected patients into nursing homes? When? By what authority?

    What should the President have done to prevent New York snowbirds from traveling to Florida to spread the virus? When? By what authority?

    From my perspective, there was NOTHING more the President could have done, not under the Constitution, not in this political climate. Even the few modest steps he did take were bitterly criticized.

    Claiming, “Well, he could have done Something” is pathetic ankelbiting.

    Put up or shut up.
    .

    So which of us is

  21. Another big thing that misses Emery’s radar; governors around the nation, as well as the CDC, missed the need to actually quarantine the sick instead of assuming that the healthy needed to be isolated instead.

    Now consider that in light of Emery’s list, which is a list of pronouncements by the same government authorities that missed the most basic function of a quarantine. Are those mistakes, or correct decisions? I’m going to argue the latter.

  22. JD? It’s not worth it. The arguments are similar to those made by a (chatter)bot and just as insightful.

  23. I know, jdm, you’re right. I just get frustrated.

    I can (and have) cite specific examples of things Walz did that constituted a failure of leadership, things he should have done differently, the most obvious being “don’t send plague carriers to live with the vulnerable population.”

    Anklebiters never do that. Nothing is ever done good enough, but they have no suggestion for how it should have been done better this time, or could be done better next time. And yet, their vote counts as much as mine. Frustrating.

  24. JD, what do you mean reprobates have no suggestions? “Hope and Change”™, baby! “Hope and Change”™! ‘Cause that’s all you really need. And if you disgree – you are a Racissssss™.

  25. Liberals say Trump failed to save us from the virus so we must vote for Kamala/Biden because they’ll save us from the virus.

    They have a secret plan to win the war. No, they won’t tell us what it is, because then the enemy would know and the plan wouldn’t work.

    Holy cats, it really IS the year 1968 all over again.

  26. JD, does not “You’ll have to pass it to know what’s in it” ring a bell? You sound surprised!

  27. Yeah, yeah, Liberal prosecutor goes after Trump supporter just before the election. Nothing political about that.

    Bannon abused a charity? Fine, now do HIllary.

  28. See JD, now you are not just trolling, but feeding a troll. Why can’t you just let him continue to gather moss under the bridge where he belongs?

  29. I’m so disillusioned.

    What next? Will it turn out that the MyPillow Guy didn’t really need to cup my balls for a scientific study?

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