11 thoughts on “They Warned Us…

  1. Tlaib’s logic is apparently that her secondary (or primary) loyalty to those who want to destroy Israel is no problem, but others’ secondary (or primary) loyalty to Israel is a huge issue, and she’s unwilling to actually defend that.

    And, given that Israel is the one place in the Middle East that is safe for not only Jews, but also Arabs, I understand precisely why she doesn’t want to make this argument. She will get creamed if it comes down to evidence.

  2. The BDS crew has the same problem black lives matter does.

    They both have some legitimate gripes. Cops *do* treat Negroes harshly, although it must be said that Negroes wouldn’t come into contact with cops as often if some of them weren’t murderous thugs and thieves.

    And European Jews *did* basically steal the Palestinian homeland (They also committed acts of terrorism against England, and espionage against the US gave them nuclear weapons, but I digress).

    The problem is, every time people start to give them some cred, the very worst among their ilk do, or say some stupid shit and we all go back to thinking “eff em”.

    Tlaib, Omar, Sarsour, Hakim X…they’re bottom feeders. There are Palestinians out there that make their case very eloquently. They are willing to admit their own sins, and will compromise.

    But no one gives them a platform, because their issues are tangled up into partisan politics. The leftists don’t really give a damn about Palestine or blacks, it’s just another hammer for them to use against the right.

    So, eff em.

  3. Complete agreement, Swiftee, except that my perception is the “very worst among their ilk” are now the norm.

  4. And European Jews *did* basically steal the Palestinian homeland (They also committed acts of terrorism against England, and espionage against the US gave them nuclear weapons, but I digress).

    Have to disagree here a bit Swiftee, the Palestinians left voluntarily in 1948 thinking that theyd be able to go back in a week, then something happened no one expected, Israel won and took the land. I took a class on it in college, it was one of a handful of college level classes that actually left a significant impression on me and I also respected the teacher, another rarity for my in my way too long of a time in college.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Palestinian_exodus

  5. what POD says, Swiftee. A great portion of the land they bought legally under the rules of the land, and another portion was abandoned by people who promptly sent in troops to try and drive them into the sea.

    Maybe this makes me a Neanderthal, but my take is that after a group of people has been trying to kill me and my neighbors for a certain number of decades, I consider any claims they had on that land to be null and void. Really, another reason I support Israel. Nobody’s behavior is perfect in this way, but we’ve got seven decades of history now that says “no, we cannot live together until the PLO side gives up genocide.”

  6. That link to Wikipedia indicates to me that the reasons for the exit was more complicated than given in the two comments above. That said, however, the so-called Palestinians have done yeoman’s work to make themselves the bad guys in that drama that continues to this day.

    I lost all respect for the Palestinians after the Israelis left Gaza with all the infrastructure intact and it was destroyed and sold. Probably for armaments and tunnel building materials. Eff ’em.

  7. I guess I must be a selfish jerk, too crassly self-centered to become emotionally involved in other people’s problems. I can’t see where Palestine’s beef with Israel is any of my business. I would offer friendly commerce to both.

    On the other hand, I’m in good company with George Washington and Thomas Jefferson. They warned against meddling in foreign affairs, too. And Dear Abby, who frequently told readers to “Mind Your Own Bees Wax.” Good advice, then and now.

  8. “ I can’t see where Palestine’s beef with Israel is any of my business.”

    $134 billion in foreign aid to Israel since 1949 is something to think about, IMO.

  9. “another portion was abandoned by people who promptly sent in troops to try and drive them into the sea.”

    Using your described sequence of events, “abandoned” is more properly described as a tactical retreat.

    I don’t really care about the eventual conclusion, it’s a done deal. But I do think it’s important to be honest about how Israel was created.

  10. Yes, Swiftee, but a tactical retreat assumes that they were going for a tactical advantage. I think my point stands.

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