All The Lies The Democrats Demand Be Printed

The NYTimes lied about Republicans, guns, Sarah Palin, and pretty much everyone in their editorial about the Hodgekinson attack – down to making up facts from thin air 

Davie French unravels the Times’ depraved attack on truth:

Let’s be blunt. In its zeal to create moral equivalencies and maintain a particular narrative about the past, the Times flat-out lied. There is simply no “link to political incitement” in Loughner’s murderous acts. The man was a paranoid schizophrenic who first got angry at Gabby Giffords years before Palin published her map.

This is, of course, part of an ongoing pattern of slandering everyone to the right of Martin O’Malley:

Let’s not forget, this is the same editorial board that, one year ago, laid blame on Republican Christian politicians for an Orlando terrorist attack by a confessed Islamic jihadist. Omar Mateen swore allegiance to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, but the Times editors believed (again, without any evidence) that he was inspired in part by Republican objections to granting men access to women’s restrooms. The editorial board should retract its editorial and apologize.

And would someone – Pat Kessler?  Bob Collins?  Erik Black?  Cat Richert? Nina Totenberg? – finally let slip the dogs of our mainstream media’s vaunted “fact-check” industry?  We’ve got a chain of howlers here:

In addition to lying about Palin, the Times couldn’t resist yet another nonsensical attack on gun rights — claiming that “studies” have shown that armed citizens would “probably” kill or wound innocent bystanders in the effort to stop the killer. Which studies? In fact, we have considerable real-world experience showing that armed citizens can stop mass shootings without harming innocent civilians.

We do, indeed.

As Dennis Prager says, the Second Civil War has been underway for some time, now.  Until Wednesday, it largely wasn’t a shooting war.

French also notes how Sarah Palin likely has a decent defamation case against the Times, even though she’s a public figure.  I hope she does.  I’ll contribute.

47 thoughts on “All The Lies The Democrats Demand Be Printed

  1. The transcripts of the Mateen calls to 9/11 — which Lynch, that vile woman, tried to suppress — show Mateen being on message. He repeats, over and over, his allegiance to ISIS, and states, again and again, that the motivation for his murder spree is the US attacks on ISIS. He never mentions homosexuals.
    No one who depends on the NY Times for news should think that they have an adult’s knowledge of current events.

  2. French also notes how Sarah Palin likely has a decent defamation case against the Times, even though she’s a public figure. I hope she does. I’ll contribute.

    Who cares if she has a decent case? The pre-trial discovery alone would be truckloads-of-popcorn-worthy! Yeah, I’d contribute just for that!

  3. Oh, and BTW Dunning_Kruger, how did dozens of innocent bystanders avoid being gunned down by those untrained, bible clutchin’, Trump votin’, gun totin’ Red State hillbillies, do ya figure?

  4. I can’t wait to hear the NRA and MBerg speak out for Philando Castile exercising his 2nd amendment rights.

  5. The Powerline boys have commented on this. They say that Castle was stoned on marijuana at the time of the shooting and so shouldn’t have been carrying, FWIW, They also say that the jury had two long term holdouts, and that nether of the holdouts was black.
    Dayton apparently believed that if Castile had been white he wouldn’t have been shot. This is sheer speculation more appropriate to Trump than a governor of Minnesota. I used to ride a Harley in the Twin Cities. I got used to police cars following close behind me while they ran my plates, and I am as white as white can be.

  6. Say Tom: As long as you brought up “Red State Hillbillies” When BMW opened their plant in South Carolina they had to train some of the workers using picture books because of the low level of literacy, perhaps Trump could address that?
    On a more personal note, what cup size are your man breasts now? C, D? If you rode your Schwinn instead of looking at it, you might reduce those two melons and not have to wear your wife’s support bras. Baby steps….

  7. Yeah Dunning_Kruger, they were so impressed with BWM’s picto-gram hillbilly training program, Mercedes and Volvo opened up shop in SC. Boeing, Michelin and GE are having a tough time attracting enough hillbillies to keep their meager operations going.

    If only Ford had provided some coloring books up there… eh, Dipshit?

  8. this is where I make my pitch for a pistol protocol. Dayton hasn’t required law enforcement to adopt one Statewide. He’s responsible for this tragedy.

  9. Woolly: There is no greater perversion of justice than blaming the victim.

  10. Oh, you blame the victim all the time, Emery.
    Whose fault is it that the WaPo, NY Times, and all the major news sources are in full attack mode on Donald Trump?

  11. Something here doesn’t seem right.
    It is unclear how Hodgkinson obtained his firearms. But he did have a legal right to own them.
    Hodgkinson had an Illinois firearm identification card and a concealed carry license in the state, which would have allowed him to legally obtain a weapon in Illinois, according to a local law enforcement official who requested anonymity.
    and . . .

    Hodgkinson, a 66-year-old former home builder and lead removal contractor, had run-ins with police but no felony convictions. The most serious was in 2006, when he was charged with misdemeanor battery for storming into a neighbor’s house in an attempt to force home a teenage girl who was under guardianship of Hodgkinson and his wife.

    The charges were eventually dismissed, but witnesses told deputies Hodgkinson grabbed the girl by the hair and threw her on the floor. He allegedly punched a woman who was a friend of the girl. When that woman’s boyfriend confronted Hodgkinson, he struck him in the face with a shotgun before firing off a round as the man fled, a police report said.

  12. ay Tom: As long as you brought up “Red State Hillbillies” When BMW opened their plant in South Carolina they had to train some of the workers using picture books because of the low level of literacy,

    a) Government schools failed people. Big news there.
    b) The Scots-Irish south has issues. That was big news – in the early 1800s.
    c) You think rural southerners are the only people who require training material written at a third grade level?

    By the way:

    On a more personal note

    While you are welcome to comment here, getting personal is a privilege I don’t allow anonymous commenters. It’s the big reason DG is no longer here.

    You don’t get to give “personal” notes – especially the insulting ones – until it’s a two-way street.

  13. Woolly: Why does Trump keep referring to himself as a “witch”?

    MBerg: Good one!

  14. Mitch, thank you, but as you know, I have rino thick skin. I’m willing to take whatever a guy is man enough to stand behind.

    If Dunning_Kruger wants to keep dragging my wife into his bullshit, I’m good; as long as he is willing to meet me face to face and say it.

    He can measure my tits while we’re at it.

  15. BTW, Dunning_Kruger, for all I know, I’m setring myself up for an EPIC ass whipping…I cannot contain my excitement.

  16. Of course Mitch, you could always post D_K’s IP address. I will take it from there……😀

  17. BTW D_K, we will both enjoy your smack talk more after our meeting. Trust me.

  18. I plan on taking Dennis Pragers thesis about how were in the middle of the 2nd American Civil War and writing a book about it. Also internationally the Left uses violence as a political tactic so we shouldnt be too surprised were at this point, more of a reason to carry now. Got to be able to defend yurself somehow

  19. “In it, pretty much everything America have done in the Middle East over the last 70 years gets done back to them.”

    bet that gave you a warm feeling didn’t it

  20. In it, pretty much everything America have done in the Middle East over the last 70 years gets done back to them.”

    It’s worth noting that in 1947, Egypt and all of Israel/West Bank were still a British protectorate. Pakistan,Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon had just achieved independence in 1945 or 1946, and Iraq and Saudi Arabia had become nations in the modern sense in only 1932 or so.

    So…..the nations of the Middle East are going to retaliate for….giving them their independence, protecting them from each other and the Soviets, and for buying their oil? Anyone who remembers the history of the region prior to 1947 ought to be aware of how ferocious the tribal wars were there prior to this point.

  21. It’s a book silly.

    The obvious question to pose is: What conditions generated the rise of the first Arab empire? You might identify three principal factors that led to the Islamic, Arab-led caliphate in the 7th century:
    1. The main powers that abutted the Arab world were both in decline, in large part because of the plague that was ravaging them. The frontier provinces of the Byzantine Empire were depopulated by disease, and the Persian Empire, though not as badly hit, was weakened as well. A power vacuum ensued, and that vacuum just happened to coincide with factor 2.
    2. An Arab intellectual named Muhammed was despondent over the endemic tribal warfare convulsing the Arabian peninsula and the inroads on traditional values that primitive market economics were making. He became a prophet and his revelations channeled Arab tribal aggression outward against the weakened Byzantine and Sassanian Persian Empires, which reeled under the onslaught.
    3. Military technologies were not so developed that these empires had an inherently overwhelming military advantage against the Muslim Arab challengers. The light cavalry raiding tactics of the Arabian Peninsula were very effective in the open terrain of the Levant, Mesopotamia, and North Africa when backed by the impetus of the initial enthusiasm of Jihad. After a few golden centuries, the Arabs surrendered the leadership of Islam to the Turks and have been in decline since.Now, how do these factors apply today? The regional non-Arab states of Turkey, Iran, and Israel are all functional and much more powerful than any Arab state–current or prospective–and the global powers that are in a position to intervene in the Arab world are even stronger. The situation is not analogous to what the Arabs faced post-622 AD and there is no prospect of the kind of collapse that would be required for an Arab empire to form. Arabs have demonstrated no ability thus far to absorb and institutionalize modern technologies (again, unlike Turkey, Iran and Israel.) There have been both secular attempts at pan-Arabism (Nasser, the Ba’ath) and religious ones (AQ, IS). None of them has been successful thus far, because there are too many powerful players opposed, and the fissiparous nature of Arab culture is easily manipulated by others. That doesn’t mean it’s absolutely impossible for a neo-Arab empire to emerge, but it doesn’t look likely any time soon.

  22. BB: The book is about an American civil war. North against the south with various interests in the ME funding different groups in America. As I said, it’s a dystopian novel.

  23. Emery, your statements are fairly true, but a macro economist will point out that rather than the “enthusiasm of Jihad” being a critical driver, it was at least as much the endemic corruption and excessive taxation of the incumbent dynasties that crippled their economies and enabled much of the success of the Arab hordes. The armies the Arabs were able to amass were inferior in number and strength to the empires they faced, but the civilians in those empires lost the necessary will to resist because their condition generally improved under the new rulers.

    To whit, consider that the original Muslim conquest of Spain resulted in very little in the way of local changes that upset the residents: taxes were lowered, Christianity was respected, and the vanquished were generally unmolested. Further, the majority of the invaders themselves were Berbers who were merely continuing their raiding ways and who frankly blundered into a situation in which the Goths were ripe to fall (corruption, infighting, a poor economy, etc). It was the endemic corruption and factionalism of Arabic culture that eventually led to the downfall of the Spanish caliphate when the Arabs attempted to imposes taxes upon the Berbers at a time when taxes were not levied upon Muslims. The resultant bloody revolution was put down by force and gradually the light hand of Muslim rule became an iron fist of attacks upon the subjects’ Christianity, increasingly onerous taxes, and less respect for the rights of Christians. It was no surprise that when conditions worsened to the point where a new invader was welcomed, the Muslims themselves in Spain fell.

    Now, I would argue that the West is undermining itself these days by attacking its moral core and economic dynamism, but we won’t go there since the next Muslim attack will not be military since the nominally Muslim countries out there are too weak and corrupt to be effective military enemies. Rather, the next conflict will be social inside Western countries and I will argue that on that front Western Europe and the Leftists in this country seem more than willing to peremptorily surrender.

  24. taxes were lowered, Christianity was respected, and the vanquished were generally unmolested.

    Well, not quite true. The life of a dhimmy could hardly be called unmolested, unless you consider being a slave and paying for the privilege “normal”.

  25. Nerdbert: In the heyday of Arab empire Europe was absorbing Arab ideas, philosophy,and science into its world. From the 11th to the 13th centuries the Arab cities in Spain, for example, made immense contributions to the Latin-based cultures of the medieval West.

    Arab intellectual contributions to European intellectual development were especially great in the fields of mathematics, philosophy, natural science and medicine.

    The Umayyad caliphate in Cordoba, to pick one Arab center, was central in bringing the science and philosophy of Baghdad into to Europe. Arab science from Andalusia flourished for centuries across Europe.

  26. I meant the actually war being fought now that had remained relatively blood free until last week. If you don’t think we’re in a war you aren’t paying attention.

  27. Eight centuries ago, Emery.
    And the Muslims of today are nothing like the Muslims of eight centuries. In the period you describe, Muslims celebrated music and dancing, and eagerly adopted good ideas from other people (at least the Muslims you are talking about did this).
    Bernard Lewis says that one of the reason the turks were successful for so long was because the Turkish culture, language, and writing system is not Arabic. Western books could be translated into Turkish, but not Arabic, in the late Middle Ages through early Modern times.
    The idea that there is no problem with the Muslim world in the 20th Century is hallucinatory.

  28. Well, not quite true. The life of a dhimmy could hardly be called unmolested, unless you consider being a slave and paying for the privilege “normal”.

    JPA, I said “initially” and I meant it. For the nearly the first century the hand of the Muslim conquerors was relatively light in Spain, although in southern Spain where the Arabs tended to rule it was somewhat heavier than in the Berber-ruled northern parts (the Berbers at the time were fresh converts and weren’t exactly zealous about Mohammedanism) simply because there were far too few Arabs to impose much on the vastly larger Spanish population. As time went on and the Berber rebellion came, the Arabs solidified their rule and became much more heavy handed and intolerant of the Christians, even taking and converting their cathedrals rather than just sharing them as they had previously. That intolerance and the imposition of heavy taxes to pay for the suppression of the Berber rebellion turned the locals against the Muslim invaders.

  29. Woolly: We are already in a one-big-war with the Muslim world you descibe. We just choose to treat the parts separately.

    With wisdom we could gradually extricate ourselves from enough parts to break-up the “one big war” status.

    Once we assist the Iraqi army in (sort of) retaking Mosul we can militarily disengage from Iraq. Once we help the “whoevers” to retake Raqqa we can significantly disengage from Syria. Once the 50th American is killed by Afghan National Army soldiers, we can significantly disengage militarily from Afghanistan.

    We can also stop taking sides in Shia/Sunni spats. We can disengage from the Turkish/Kurdish/Iraqi squabbles over sovereignty.

    And, lastly we can take a three year breather from adding more US weapons into the Middle East (Sunnis, Shias, and Israelis included). Lockheed and Boeing would force us to reopen the spigots after three years, but the pause could do everyone some good. Sort of a regional colonic cure.

    With all of these moves we will still be more entangled in the Middle East than we need to be, but our chances of being dragged into really big messes will be reduced.

  30. I should add that given the political wisdom of our leaders and their track records for courage combined with their honest pursuit of our national interests.

    And after factoring in the likelihood of a 3-year pause in weapons sales to the Middle East — There’s not a snowball’s chance in Hell that we tamp-down our involvement.

  31. Emery: The Umayyad caliphate in Cordoba, to pick one Arab center, was central in bringing the science and philosophy of Baghdad into to Europe. Arab science from Andalusia flourished for centuries across Europe.

    And that has exactly what to the point you were trying to make? That at one point the Muslims took the leading learning centers and promulgated their knowledge to much of the rest of the world is well known as a point of pride for Muslims. You can’t say that such a dissemination of knowledge went on for long, nor that the strain of Islam that celebrated that sort of learning is still significant in Islam culture.

    The real story of the Muslim embrace of science is less impressive than apologists often try to trumpet. Much of what the Muslims did was to simply translate the knowledge that their conquered civilizations possessed and thereby preserve it. Indeed, much of the early Islamic “work” in science was simply telling academics in conquered regions that they must to go to certain academic centers and translate their texts into Arabic. That was the main basis of the beginning of their dissemination of knowledge. Now, granted, the maintenance of that knowledge was a good thing, but they were also aided by the introduction of paper from China that brought the cost of learning down orders of magnitude and made the ability to make a living as an author a reality.

    And the golden age of learning in the Arab world was very short lived, as such things go. Beginning in the 8th century with its dependence on translations from Greece and the West, enfeebled by the 11th (primarily by the revival of mysticism from “renewers of the faith” like Al Ghazali), it was almost completely dead by the end of the 12th century as Islam turned away from knowledge and towards a more Arab-style orthodoxy. Certainly Muslims made original progress in mathematics, primarily, but their unique achievements were more on the dissemination and preservation of knowledge gained in other cultures, particularly Greek and Roman ones.

    Note that I am not denigrating the works of many of the more brilliant Islamic academics (Algoritmi was particularly impressive and his work was done in the House of Learning at the very beginning of the Islamic conquests when learning was much more celebrated). I’m just pointing out that while they did preserve learning, much of the explosion of knowledge during the Islamic flirtation with learning was more a result of the introduction of paper as it was their alleged love of science. I would argue that the impact of Islamic original learning is less than what is generally assumed.

  32. Once we assist the Iraqi army in (sort of) retaking Mosul we can militarily disengage from Iraq.

    Didn’t we already try that? And what, exactly, was the result of that brilliant decision by our previous commander-in-chief?

    The practical situation is that the Shiite and Sunni factions in Iraq don’t trust each other, and for good reasons. When the Iraqi government began to abuse the Sunnis after the US left, the Sunnis turned to forces like ISIS to defend themselves. Not that they or we particularly liked the results…

    The situation in Iraq is somewhat like that in Europe: insane historical factionalism drives internal conflict, which leads to open warfare. Until the US stepped in to Europe to guarantee security for all the factions, wars were common in Europe and increasingly bloody. It has only been a Pax American Europa that has allowed most of Europe to grow up and have at least a modicum of trust towards their neighbors. Not that the situation in most Arab cultures is hopeful: their endemic corruption and lack of respect for the individual, individual liberties, and private property make generating a functional multicultural state a near impossibility.

  33. I am more of a historian than a theologian or a philosopher, but I do know that Aquinas introduced or re-introduced to Christianity the notion that reason was an attribute of God, and God could be approached with the use of reason. Benedict XVI was correct when he said Islam and Protestantism diminished that aspect of God while emphasizing God’s limitless power.
    I am a Protestant. I understand this criticism. I admire the intellectual grounding of Catholicism, while I agree with Luther that justification is by faith alone, meaning I am not a secret Catholic. If I was a member of the Catholic Church, I would be a secret Lutheran 🙂
    Catholicism has a reputation among Protestants of being obscurantist. I think that this reputation is due to historical accident and British chauvinism. Some say that the Reformation led to the scientific revolution of the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries (and so, eventually, to the modern world), not because Protestantism was more rational than Catholicism, but because the Protestant God was not approachable by Reason. Since Catholic belief was not permitted in Britain and much of northern Europe, The rational-minded philosophers of the period turned their attention to the natural world. Works for me.
    For me, Christianity is the True Religion because the covenant with God is based on love. God created the world as an act of love. God sent us Christ the Redeemer as an act of love. God’s motivation for creating and redeeming man is love. Love the foundation of existence, including the material world. Without love, the material world wouldn’t exist because their would be no purpose for its existence.

  34. Emery can always be depended upon to present the Liberal talking points, taken straight off the Power Point. Hence, Andalusia.

    There is a different view, of course, that is not mentioned in the Ivory Tower because it’s not politically correct, merely historically true:

  35. We could argue about the contributions of Islamic scholars from the middle ages until the cows come home, but at the end of the day, it seems to me that the fact of the matter is that the Renaissance started as Byzantine monks and priests fled Constantinople in the middle of the 15th century, not during the Middle Ages. Comparing the two effects is like comparing a candle to a forest fire, really.

  36. Dark ages happened during middle ages for the duration of the Muslim conquest of the west. Could it be a coincidence? Nah…

  37. JPA, I said “initially” and I meant it.

    Being a little bit of a slave compared to a full fledged one. Still a slave.

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