I’ve heard some of you refer to the idea of turning your efforts toward impeaching President-Elect Trump.
I say that not only should you do it, but you should treat it as an absolute imperative, and pursue it with maniacal devotion.
It’s the Progressive thing to do.
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This is how Bush 43 got re-elected. Instead of looking at what they needed to do to appeal to the American people, the Democrats just went nutso after Nov 2000.
I’d also recommend more of the following things I saw yesterday:
1. Doxxing Paul Ryan; and
2. Posting pictures of William Henry Harrison with the tagline “just sayin’.”
Those are both really effective ways to demonstrate your fundamental decency and how big-hearted your really are.
Watched the confirmation hearing for Betsy DeVos last night. Holy shit….
All of the reprobate Democrats on the committee were visibly agitated, and the execrable Fauxcahontas Warren was everything you expect a leftist bitch Queen to be, but Al “Popskull” Franken was the worst.
Franken was flushed, his hands shook and it appeared he was employing a massive effort to restrain himself from jumping the dais and choking the life out of Mrs. DeVos right then and there. The hate was pouring out of him in rivers, and I’m sure the smell was quite offensive.
Leftists reprobates are, by definition, always in dangerously deranged state of mind, but their public agony is off putting, and we are ready to party like the Overlords of old. I’d like to help ease their suffering, or at least get them to STFU, so we can enjoy our complete domination in peace, but impeachment won’t get the job done for them.
This fellow has the only answer:
http://www.mintpressnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/self-immolation.jpg
Oh, and BTW. During his Two Five Minutes Hate, Popskull Franken tried to belittle Mrs. Devos’ knowledge, and disputed her assertion that college tuition had risen more than 1000% since 1978. Popskull sneeringly promised her it was more like 100%.
I’d be remiss not to take this opportunity to wipe my crack on Popskull’s nose:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2014/11/08/credit-dotcom-tuition/18417721/
Perhaps SSOLSEmery will pass this along to him, with my compliments, at the next Democrat circle jerk Popskull attends.
Heard Franken’s “questioning” of “witness” DeVos earlier. Ugh. What an embarrassment he is. If Minnesotans could be ashamed of anything other than how their grass looks, they would be ashamed that this goon is our Senator.
Also on the radio – MPR interviewed a NYC based free lance ‘journalist’ who did a piece on the “My Pillow” guy. Apparently what got said ‘journalist’ to travel to the uncivilized territories West of the Hudson (Shakopee) was learning the “My Pillow” guy is a former cocaine addict, Trump supporter and worst of all, brace yourself average MPR listener; a committed Christian. And the “My Pillow” guy also doesn’t follow what our intrepid ‘journalist’ – feels – is a proper management technique. While Sister Kathy of the First Church of MPR chuckled along with the “journalists” observations of the business (ex: My Pillow guy prays over business decisions? nyuck, nyuck, nyuck) the piece did go on to point out his skirmishes with our country’s priesthood: the vast regulatory vanguard. These Protectors of the Unwashed told him he couldn’t let his customers claim that his pillows cured their sciatica in his ads (and maybe some side cash so that nice little business you got there might continue to be a nice little business?).
I think the next four (and the way they carry on, it’s likely to be the next eight) years are going to see a lot of these “gorilla in the mist” type reports as our Democrat Party Dominated Media Culture ventures from their taxpayer paid lairs to where the taxpayers are.
Heh.
Sef, the first time I saw the My Pillow Guy on TV (Fox I think), I said to my wife “Ah geez, he’s got a crucifix hanging out of his shirt there, plain as day. He’ll never sell a pillow on either coasts.”
I’m surprised his home address and phone number hasn’t been doxxed by City Pages yet.
Id also like to encourage them to continue calling Trump voters/supporters racist, sexist, intolerant bigots who they believe should just join theiron local KKK or neo-nazi group. Nothing furthers discourse greater than calling your opponents names and surely won’t result in massive gains in 2018 and 2020 across the state and national governments. Please I beg of you.
I really do not understand the Democrat strategy, here.
If the same people vote the same way in 2020 that they did in 2016,Trump will win the EC 304 to 207, just as he did last year. Where is the Dem outreach? They need to add voters in Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Wisconsin, not lose them.
Trump is a loose cannon. God only knows how he will do as prez. But all things being equal, he will have an easier time adding voters in 2020 than the Dems.
There must be some adults in the Democrat party who are concerned about winning congress in 2018 and the presidency in 2020. Where are they?
This article gives an interesting breakdown of who voted for whom: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-news-exit-polls-how-donald-trump-won-the-us-presidency/
But of course Hillary won the popular vote 48% to 46%, so it does not give a useful roadmap to Dem success in 2020.
paul Krugman is not one of the adults in the Democrat party:
. . . the president-elect – who, of course, got his start in national politics by repeatedly, falsely questioning President Obama’s right to hold office.
I have no idea what that sentence means. How is it possible to falsely question someone? Krugman is so eager to shoehorn adjectives into his sentences that he seems to be placing them randomly.
Now, anyone questioning Mr. Trump’s legitimacy will be accused of being unpatriotic — because that’s what people on the right always say about anyone who criticizes a Republican president. (Strangely, they don’t say this about attacks on Democratic presidents.)
This is fantasy. I don’t recall anyone on the right ever calling anyone unpatriotic because they criticized a republican president.
Help me out here? Maybe Gordon Liddy?
I watched part of the DeVos inquisition, too.
The massive doses of moronic bull pucks from an unhinged Tim Kaine and the morally corrupt, hypocritical mental midget Patty Murray, were enough to make me wish that I could reach through my TV screen and smack them both. I don’t condone violence against women, but last night, I would have made an exception.
By the way, Ms. DeVos proved that she was the adult. She kept her cool and IMO, put the libidiots to shame.
A CBS poll showed 10% of the Dems feel this is a priority, which is less than the number of Dems who believed that Bush downed the Trade Center or the Republicans who believed Obama was a. Born in Kenya or b. a Muslim.
That aside, if Donald J. Trump communicated with Vladimr Putin’s administration about hacking the DNC, directly or through surrogates and, even after the fact, and didn’t report it, it’s a crime, and a serious one. It won’t require the Dems to be zealous about impeaching him, his own party will do it, and rightly so, because Russia is probably the second most important strategic threat to the US, with China being first.
Mammulhus, absolutely folks on the right called questioning George Bush unpatriotic and unsupportive of troops during the Iraq War. Here’s what Zell Miller said in 2004 (courtesy Slate).
“While young Americans are dying in the sands of Iraq and the mountains of Afghanistan, our nation is being torn apart and made weaker because of the Democrats’ manic obsession to bring down our commander in chief.
Motivated more by partisan politics than by national security, today’s Democratic leaders see America as an occupier, not a liberator.
In [Democratic leaders’] warped way of thinking, America is the problem, not the solution. They don’t believe there is any real danger in the world except that which America brings upon itself.
Kerry would let Paris decide when America needs defending. I want Bush to decide.”
While this doesn’t call someone “unpatriotic” it does say they don’t care about American lives, care more about politics than policy, and would be happier if Paris rather than Washington, decided foreign policy. The first assertion is far more vile than simply being called unpatriotic (and was deeply offensive), the latter two call the Dems America “haters” which is easily worse than unpatriotic as an insult. Perhaps you remember folks calling Dems America haters if you don’t recall them saying their conduct was unpatriotic. The point is, it all comes full circle. Your complaints about them are their complaints about you. Rather than fostering contempt, perhaps it’s time to consider the other person has good, if misguided (to you) intentions. That’s actually the first step in any real solution because you need to remember that Trump received about 24% of the total vote among the entire voting public which means that 76% either abstained or didn’t agree with him and THAT means, you need to build consensus rather than walls.
Where are they?
Rockefella seems to be the only adult in the room. Imagine that!
And it looks like Manchin is ready to skip across the aisle.
They are still smarting from the Great Meme war loss. Here is a brief synopsis, tongue in cheek obviously, but damn I felt like the only one battling here in Minnesotas 1st. We damn near pulled off a miracle but came up short but did enough damage that the WI,MI, and PA divisions were able to capitalize on the position we gave them. Note, there will be books written about this war someday, and they will be hilarious
I could have done without some of the blanket racism and anti-semitism but when battling the Clinton Machine you’ll take just about any ally you can. Don’t judge, we did the impossible, also your welcome
Alt-Good Swiftee on January 18, 2017 at 9:12 am said:
Oh, and BTW. During his Two Five Minutes Hate, Popskull Franken tried to belittle Mrs. Devos’ knowledge, and disputed her assertion that college tuition had risen more than 1000% since 1978. Popskull sneeringly promised her it was more like 100%”
Actually Swift, what Ms. Devos said was that student loan debt had increased 980% in the 8 years of the Obama administration, Franken said the number was more like 118%. Those are two very different numbers and by the way, Franken was far closer to right than Devos. Per Bloomberg, student loan debt has increased from roughly $700B in 2009 to $1.2T by 2014 (and I assume gone up from there to reach the 118% number now).
The point is, college is unaffordable to far too many people now. Whatever DeVos/Trump chose to do, the crisis of student debt is something which must be addressed, but addressing that requires addressing the cost of college. For profit colleges have not proven, in any way, to be a solution. Neither of course have public schools avoided the rise in costs (though they are generally less than private schools by an order of magnitude). Making student loans unforgivable under bankruptcy, which was supposed to “fix” people taking advantage of the system, has only enabled the government and banks, to burden people essentially for life for the cost of college. While I don’t support simply letting people walk away from debt, by contrast, burdening a 25 year old with $200k in student loan debt that they cannot get out from under no matter what, is destroying our national competitiveness because people are forgoing college – and an educated workforce is key to our international competitive ability.
“… burdening a 25 year old with $200k in student loan debt…”
Really?? I’ve read the average 2016 college graduate student loan debt is like $37K.
OK, going to correct Penigma here. DeVos actually pointed out that the cost of a college degree was up over 1000%, and it’s 1120%, since 1987. Corrected for inflation, it’s up about 400% or so. While I would assume student loan debt would scale at a similar but not identical pace, it wasn’t what she was talking about.
And of course, tuition and fees have marched upward in lockstep with federal grants and loans, so we have a cause. Government is driving the problem. And yes, after 5-6 years in a private school, $200k or more is possible and even common. It’s not the mean, but it’s an important set of outliers.
To fix it, you don’t make the loans forgiveable, because that’s the only thing that makes them affordable. Read up on “interest rates and unsecured debt” if you doubt this. Pen, your plan would raise costs through the roof!
What you do to reduce the problem is you limit student loans and grants to students who have a plausible chance of graduating with a degree that is worth something–the bottom 30-40% of students have no reasonable chance of graduating with a meaningful degree–< 20% chance, really. So why are we filling colleges with these students and wasting their time and money?
Well Peeve, I’ll concede that her answer was not what I had remembered it to be, although as bubba points out, Popskull wasn’t much a better guess than hers.
And on to new territory:
The point is, college is unaffordable to far too many people now. Whatever DeVos/Trump chose to do, the crisis of student debt is something which must be addressed, but addressing that requires addressing the cost of college.
College is unaffordable to far too many kids who think they can afford to live off campus, not work a lick and take 6 years to get a 4 year degree. I gave Uncle Sam’s Navy 4 years work for slave wages( never owned a car during that time), got a 2 year degree, transferred it to a 4 year program, worked 1/2 time and graduated owing $300. My kids got through using the same plan (sans Navy) owing about $5000. Only an idiot or a leftist ends up with a $150k debt for a poli-sci undergrad degree.
For profit colleges have not proven, in any way, to be a solution.
Tell that to the Dunwoody grads I have worked with.
Neither of course have public schools avoided the rise in costs (though they are generally less than private schools by an order of magnitude).
“There are 68 private schools in Saint Paul, MN, serving 15,680 students.
The average private school tuition is $5,467 for elementary schools and $14,079 for high schools.
The average acceptance rate is 83% (view national acceptance rates).
Minority enrollment is 18% of the student body, and the student:teacher ratio is 11:1.”
http://www.privateschoolreview.com/minnesota/saint-paul
My three kids received top notch educations at St. Agnes for about $5,000 per kid.
I haven’t had access to the numbers for SPPS for some years now, but back in 2008, they were getting about $17,000 per student from combined state and federal sources (you can’t trust the numbers from the Dept of Ed., you need the financial spreadsheets, which I used to get back when I still gave two shits about public schools).
You care to compare grad rates and test scores between public and private? No, you really don’t.
Making student loans unforgivable under bankruptcy, which was supposed to “fix” people taking advantage of the system, has only enabled the government and banks, to burden people essentially for life for the cost of college.
No, it burdens idiots who pay a fortune for a crap undergrad degree that won’t get them a managers job at Culvers. It’s too high, I agree, but for kids and parents who take the time to plan and think these things through, it’s eminently achievable.
While I don’t support simply letting people walk away from debt, by contrast, burdening a 25 year old with $200k in student loan debt that they cannot get out from under no matter what, is destroying our national competitiveness because people are forgoing college – and an educated workforce is key to our international competitive ability.
Despite what Bernie Sanders might tell you, not every kid should go to college. Furthermore, there are a shit ton of high paying technical jobs out here begging for talent that require only a 2 year tech school degree.
like plumbers, electricians, carpenters… seriously you can make more starting out with those jobs than as a public defender or even a few engineering jobs. Would you rather be a 30 year old lawyer with 250k in student loans or a carpenter making 6 figures a year at 30 and even more once he gets masters status. The education bubble is going to pop very soon and hopefully it will cause the unemployment of a lot of gender studies and political science professors who will have to learn skills that actually contribute to society. As it stands right now I will not pay to have my yet to be born kids college education. They can pay for it themselves or get a trade or learn a skill. Or go to online college while working
POD, some of the electricians I hire to install my systems make between $10 and $25k more per year than I do. Not sure better hotel accommodations make up for that 😉
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