Joe Doakes from Como Park emails:
Paul Ryan has become an Establishment Republican. He’s not going to help Trump win. He thinks that’s the smart play but I wonder if his voters will mind that he’s back-stabbing the Republican candidate? They’re already booing him in his home state.
Trump isn’t the one who killed the GOP. He’s just the one who walked up to it and poked it with a stick to be sure it’s dead.
Last time, the base turned out nice, polite Tea Partiers who left the lawn cleaner than when they arrived. This time, we picked Trump who is loud and vulgar but at least knows the greatest threat facing America is not global warming. If the Democrats, the media and the Establishment GOP conspire to keep him out of the White House, just wait to see who comes next.
Joe Doakes
The anticipation is killing me.
What do you believe the GOP will look like by 2020?
To you, and your reprobate ilk, the GOP will look exactly like what a can of Raid looks to a cockroach, Emery.
PSA: If I do not respond, assume I am laughing at you.
No, Emery Incognito.
I’ll just assume you’re having a Zoolander-style “gasoline fight” with your friends.
I have the hope that sometime in the very near future, Republicans will remember that winning requires them to make the case for policies to people who are not already convinced. This is especially important as I consider what the ramifications of our gigantic national debt are–there is going to be a huge downsizing of the government sometime in the not too distant future, and the question is not whether or not it will happen. It is whether it will be done in an orderly manner or not.
I’ve learned in this last year or so that the term “Establishment” doesn’t mean anything more than “anyone who I don’t like” and that the person using it is not to be taken seriously on any matter of importance.
I was at a BPOU meeting this week where last month their executive committee had voted to put out a sample ballot for their local candidates and by a bare majority voted to include Trump on it. At this week’s meeting they voted to revisit the issue (motion made and seconded by two of the people who pushed for including Trump the month before) and they voted to scrap the sample ballot altogether and donate the funds to their local candidates (both of which said they didn’t want to be on a sample ballot if Trump’s name was included).
These *are* the grassroots– the ones who do the actual work of recruiting volunteers, getting manning the phones, walking the streets, pounding in the signs and the rest of the GOTV that win elections. If they’re not supporting Trump, it’s because they recognize him as a liability and realize that his campaign is probably unsalvageable by his own words and actions and they need to focus on helping out the actual, legitimate Republican candidates who would otherwise be collateral damage.
Mr. Trump has in fact saved us from boring old debates about actual policies so we can focus on the important issues like jailing political opponents and non-compliant journalists.
Joe, Swiftee (and AK, K-Rod, and the rest of the violence prone fools) I strongly encourage you, on November 9th, to pick up your banners or any other thing you like, and take to the streets. In fact, I think you would be most satisfied if you engage in violent protest against how illegitimate the election of Clinton has been. I think you would be best to make that argument while holding up a picture of Vladimr Putin too, but please, do, either way, please oh please oh PRETTY please, engage in protest about how the election was rigged. Engage in protest about how things were fixed and stolen from you. When folks say your candidate was a small, venal, bully who picked on women and who lacked policy specifics and present you with hard evidence that the votes weren’t there, deny the facts, accuse them of being stupid and ugly, and then start breaking windows… you should at least if you mean to be true to the implied threat contained in this post and the comments by folks like Swiftee. So, please, please do. Really.
BTW Emory, if you’re looking for substantive discussion on this blog, you will wait a long time. They are about as substantive, especially of focusing on the larger context of an issue, as they are capable of grasping humor or showing kindness.
Pen,
Those comments are just weird.
I’m not asking if you’re “projecting much” – but you are certainly projecting your side’s usual MO.
“if you’re looking for substantive discussion on this blog, you will wait a long time”
And you’ve been “waiting” for about 11 years, now.
Sour grapes?
And pen?
“implied threat contained in this post”
What in the flaming hootie-hoo are you talking about?
Mitch, sounds like Penigma is telling us to act like some of the “outlier” Black Lives Matter protests, no? Or perhaps like the “Occupy” groups? And like it or not, it sure worked for them, as the DOJ is working nationwide to make sure that african-american juvenile delinquents and criminals don’t get punished in schools or via the police and courts.
Of course, it appears to be killing hundreds of people each year, most of them black, in places like St. Louis, Chicago,and Baltimore, but hey, you gotta break some eggs to make an omelet, right?
You’ve got to consider that maybe, just maybe, Penigma is encouraging US to act like the stars of his political universe. So we need to encourage him, even though anyone who takes his advice has got to be out of his freaking mind.