20 Responses to “Now, Don’t You Dare Call Democrats Manipulative And Over-Dramatic!”

1. Dog Gone Says:
   October 26th, 2012 at 2:15 pm

   Because doing that would make you a hypocrite.

   The ad is funny. I’m sure we both remember both kind of first times – when we voted and when we lost our virginity. It is neither manipulative or over-dramatic.

   UNLIKE recent crap from Republicans and other righties – examples;

   Mitt Romney, campaigning in Ohio LIED about Jeep jobs. He claimed that it was Obama’s fault that Fiat was outsourcing American jobs building Jeeps to China. Per the Detroit News, Jeep is ADDING 1100 jobs in Detroit building cars here. Fiat IS opening plants in China to sell to Chinese, but they are not outsourcing any American jobs, they continue to expand here too.

   Then we have the really right wing nut crazies, like Bachmann buddy Frank Gefney and right wing media nut Diane West, who apparently are birthers, claiming that the Benghazi attack was a fortunate event because it helps Romney. (I don’t think it has – but how disgusting an attempt to politicize it, AGAIN).

   OR Dinesh D’Souza of the myth movie about Obama claiming – after his sex scandal that forced him to resign as college president – that Obama was threatening the traditional values agenda by supporting gay marriage. Nothing like a little marriage fear mongering from an adulterer getting a divorce.

   OR CBN’s faux terrorist expert claiming “Imam Obama” is Aidiing the Muslim Brotherhood, as part of some secret muslim conspiracy; or Bryan Fischer going along with the Obama-is-a-secret-muslim-because-of-his-wedding-ring conspiracy hysteria — which is at least better than Obama is a secret homosexual who has killed all of his gay lovers nut job hair-on-fire hysteria.

   OR Bryan Wilson of the American Family Association — the group which supported getting rid of your gayness by hitching up electrodes to your genitals and then shocking you out of your sexual orientation — is asserting that by having the option of contraception (it is not required you use it) in ‘Obamacare’ constitutes war on Christians

   Those are just a few of the nutjob right wing manipulative hair on fire overdramatic instances of fear mongering and hysteria fomenting. I could give you many, many, many more. They’re endemic on the right.

   When you have fewer of those, you can complain about something that I think is clever, not manipulative or overdramatic.

   It’s a bit like your worries about election tampering; given the recent arrests and discoveries of voter registration tampering, robo calls and more mass mailings with deliberately wrong voting information in Wisconsin (a repeated tactic there), and of course the various arrests and convictions in the past two years for voter fraud or voter tampering etc by REPUBLICANS trying to steal elections, it is just another hypocritical case of projection — your side does it, so you have to try to claim the other side does it instead or in addition.

   THAT is why the right is so frequently labeled hypocrites.

   In the meantime

2. Night Writer Says:
   October 26th, 2012 at 2:25 pm

   Mention “manipulative and over-dramatic” and, bingo, a screed from Dog Gone pops up. Speak of the Devil, as they say.

3. Mr. D Says:
   October 26th, 2012 at 2:32 pm

   DG;dr

4. Yossarian Says:
   October 26th, 2012 at 2:43 pm

   DG:

   Get help.

5. Mitch Berg Says:
   October 26th, 2012 at 2:52 pm

   “THAT is why the right is so frequently labeled hypocrites.”

   No, DG. The right is “so frequently” labeled hypocrites because the left has mistaken “tu quoque ad hominem” for “hypocrisy”.

   As you did througout your comment – or at least the parts of your comment that weren’t utter non-sequitur.

6. Mitch Berg Says:
   October 26th, 2012 at 2:59 pm

   DG,

   Actually, your entire comment was a non-sequitur.

   I regret the error.

7. gill0137 Says:
   October 26th, 2012 at 3:44 pm

   I made the mistake of reading the article before viewing the video… and the video just didn’t rise to the level of outrage expressed in the quotes. I found video to be mildly amusing/offensive… but mostly just mild.

   Outside of a very old or pious population, the charges of outrage won’t ring true.

   Boomers on down have largely embraced and are comfortable with casual sex. I think it is a political mistake to make an issue of this throw away web ad.

   However, I think there is a cultural teaching moment here, but this isn’t the right forum for that.

8. Mitch Berg Says:
   October 26th, 2012 at 3:58 pm

   Gill, you’re right, the ad is pretty innocuous. But the problem isn’t really the casual sex angle. It’s the whole “tying voting for Obama to one of the pivotal moments in someone’s life”, including the breathless “I walked in (to the voting booth) a girl and came out a woman”.

   Equating voting for The One to one’s “first time” is one thing. But the Obama years have been more like a gang-rape for working America.

9. Terry Says:
   October 26th, 2012 at 4:05 pm

   This is what insanity looks like:
   OR Dinesh D’Souza of the myth movie about Obama claiming – after his sex scandal that forced him to resign as college president – that Obama was threatening the traditional values agenda by supporting gay marriage. Nothing like a little marriage fear mongering from an adulterer getting a divorce.
   This is incomprehensible. Who is Dinesh D’Souza and why is DG obsessed with his sex life?

10. swiftee Says:
    October 26th, 2012 at 4:16 pm

    “I’m sure we both remember both kind of first times – when we voted and when we lost our virginity.”

    Let me guess, you were in line waiting to get into the polling place; a fire hydrant caught your eye; you bent over to give it a sniff and a collie ran across the street and nailed you right there…right? Am I right?

    Good times, eh DG?

11. PJKelly Says:
    October 26th, 2012 at 4:29 pm

    I appreciate ads like this. They confirm, for those who are not already convinced, that there is only one adult running for president.

12. Mitch Berg Says:
    October 26th, 2012 at 4:50 pm

    Terry,

    I have to confess, while I used to try to read DG’s comments, my eyes do glaze over. Not so much from the length – I was an English major, remember? – but from the sheer volume of non-sequitur.

    So I missed the bit you called out:

    Dinesh D’Souza of the myth movie about Obama claiming – after his sex scandal that forced him to resign as college president – that Obama was threatening the traditional values agenda by supporting gay marriage. Nothing like a little marriage fear mongering from an adulterer getting a divorce.

    D’Souza’s movie was about Obama’s background and how it affected his view of America.

    But DG is yapping about the red herring that if any social conservative strays from “Family Values”, then all conservatives are wrong.

13. kinlaw Says:
    October 26th, 2012 at 5:45 pm

    Mitch, I know you don’t like to ban people, but it is time to consider this option: ask DG to come back once in a while and respond to the refutations of her posts, and defend them. And provide some honest links. And stay on point. And stop using the word hypocrisy. Or say adios muchacha. She is not here in good faith, to have a debate or discussion. More to just drop an ad hominem, non-sequitur laced screed, and run away, feeling smug.

    You have no obligation to let her trash your site for her own pleasure.

    Just my two cents.

14. kinlaw Says:
    October 26th, 2012 at 5:46 pm

    PS: Is that your band in the banner?

    And if so, which one is you?

15. Chuck Says:
    October 26th, 2012 at 7:29 pm

    Gets back to Democrats worshipping their political leaders. Wisconsin saw this last winter when Rusty Feingold made appreances in Madison.

    I know a gal who hyperventelated over meeting A-Klo.

16. Troy Says:
    October 26th, 2012 at 11:32 pm

    Yeah, it’s not so much offense as creepy and an insult to the intelligence of people everywhere.

17. Mitch Berg Says:
    October 27th, 2012 at 8:39 am

    Kinlaw,

    No, it’s an old shot of the Replacements. I don’t have any pix of any of my old bands anymore, more’s the pity.

18. kinlaw Says:
    October 27th, 2012 at 11:48 am

    For no reason I can think of I was thinking maybe the guitar player on the left was you.

    That’s too bad about your not having any pics. I was in a garage band in the 80’s, and it just occurs to me that I don’t think we ever had any pics of us, and I wish we did.

19. Terry Says:
    October 27th, 2012 at 8:18 pm

    Franklin County | 3 people indicted for felony vote fraud: http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/10/17/3-people-indicted-for-felony-vote-fraud.html

    In each case, the voter requested, received and returned absentee ballots in both names, an official in the board’s petitions and filings department said.

    I don’t know if they voted D or R, but it had the same effect as suppressing the votes of three people who voted the other way.

20. Joe Doakes Says:
    October 30th, 2012 at 11:22 am

    I do not think Mitch should ban Dog Gone. First, every serious discussion needs comic relief from time to time. Second, Know Thy Enemy. Dog Gone not only honestly believes that drivel, she is the voice of millions of others who do, as well.

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