Here’s a typical argument that I’ve been having with more than a few lefties lately:
ME: Here’s some more evidence that fraudulent votes were cast in the election.
THEY: You shouldn’t say that. Minnesota has the best voting system in the country.
ME: Maybe, maybe not – but there’s some room for improvement, as these stories show.
THEY: But you shouldn’t impugn the voting system. You’ll discourage voting.
ME: No, I’m encouraging people to hold their idiot government accountable.
THEY: But your “evidence” is wrong.
THEY: Because we have the best voting system in the country.
ME: (Looks for ways to change the subject)
It’s called “Begging the Question” – which may be the most mis-used term in the whole world of logic, by the way. Correctly used, it means “Using the presumption that your claim is correct as evidence that your claim is correct”.
Constant repetition that Minnesota has the best electoral system in the country, even if it’s true (and it’s becoming clearer and clearer to me that it’s a ludicrous claim, unless the sole goal is to rack up vote counts, which is a stupid goal) doesn’t pre-empt evidence that there are issues.