15 thoughts on “I Heard It On The NARN

  1. McGrath and his methodology are widely discredited.

    You are perpetuating a fraud and a hoax on your listeners, you will not apply critical thinking or challenging questions, becaue you do not want to hear anything other than that fraud is a significant problem.

    And apparently because it is so very unlikely to prove true, you will not investigate the simple information of voter registration and voter participation in the 2008 election.

    You had the time to make the claim that voter fraud took place when you wrote this:http://www.shotinthedark.info/wp/?p=15200

    claiming it was the work of the SEIU.

    So —–prove it, check it, show us. You were so certain this feeble example was another instance of voter fraud. Show us, Mitch.

    You quoted your anoymous source two years late:”

    “I suspect a lot of this goes on. After all, SEIU represents a lot of nursing home staff.”

    You wrote:
    “I have a hunch this state could keep an army of investigators busy.

    It might be a good Obama “shovel-ready” project.”

    It takes a matter of minutes. Do it. Check it. Show us how ‘this goes on all the time’.

    I’m guessing you will wait for this to go away — because absolutely NOTHING happened. Not unlike McGrath’s claims of something where nothing happened.

    This is shoveling something stinkier than dirt. Shame on you.

  2. Why would someone want a less secure election process rather than a more secure election process if their motives are honorable?

  3. Dog demands of Mitch Show us how ‘this goes on all the time’.
    I’ll go you one better, you self-righteous scold. Show US where Mitch said ‘this goes on all the time’.
    Otherwise STFU.

  4. Oh, and shame on you, you self-righteous scold. The only thing stinky around here is your pathetic DFL sycophancy.

  5. Maybe Dog Gone should show us the proof that Tea Partiers were the “weber ninjas” who vandalized soon to be EX-congressman Pierrello’s brother’s house.
    Dog Gone was all over that hoax earlier this year. Slandered a whole group of her fellow Americans based on nothing.

  6. Yeah, we’re waiting on the “avalanche of violence” and the “weber minjas” and, one time when I poked my nose over on the Penigma blog, the (I think they put it) “overwhelming racism of the right”, and David Strom’s culpability in a financial scandal, and not a few other large-ish claims.

    Still – strictly speaking, trying to invalidate an argument because it’s inconsistant with an earlier argument is a logical fallacy; I’ve been reading about ’em lately.

    Which’ll bring me to my reply to DG…

  7. DG,

    McGrath and his methodology are widely discredited.

    What “methodology?” There is no “methodology”; there is merely “finding irregularities”, “investigating them” and “telling people about them”. He’s been widely attacked, to be sure – but if it were “discredited”, his group’s investigations would not have resulted in eighty current ongoing felony investigations, a few dozen convictions (so far) and hundreds of other cases that were dismissed due to a quirk in Minnesota law that says most people (not felons) can dodge the charge by saying “I didn’t know” (because ignorance of the law is an excuse in Minnesota elections!).

    There is no “wide discredit”. There has been a lot of courter-PR from the DFL and the institutional left . That is all – and it certainly doesn’t invalidate his efforts, much less his findings.

  8. You are perpetuating a fraud and a hoax on your listeners, you will not apply critical thinking or challenging questions, becaue you do not want to hear anything other than that fraud is a significant problem.

    No, DG, I believe fraud to be a significan problem, and I fully support McGrath, to the point that I worked at the fraud call center on election day. McGrath and MNMajority are correct. Perhaps not in every particular, perhaps not on every charge – but he’s correct.

  9. And apparently because it is so very unlikely to prove true, you will not investigate the simple information of voter registration and voter participation in the 2008 election.

    DG, I suggest that you are the one who is not doing the investigating. There were many more votes cast in 2008, and this year, than registered voters. There were an avalanche – not a Penigma “avalanche”, but the real thing – of stories about improperly stored ballots, about machines that were malfunctioning (the SOS’s job is to make sure they’re all ready, no excuses, on election morning!). There were multiple stories of poll judges finding people organizing group vouching – fixing people brokering vouchees to meet with groups of vouchers (illegal!), waiting around to vouch people they didn’t know (illegal!), getting busted vouching people they didn’t know (illegal!). There’s a confirmed story of people wandering around Regions Hospital signing people up to vote absentee (illegal!). In addition to the email I posted, there were numerous stories of people with dementia being hauled to the polls and “voting” – which may be their right, but it is nobody’s right to do their voting for them! And of course, the Crow Wing County story, which may have involved dozens of people having their ballots filled out by group home staff.

    So no, DG, I’ve done the “investigating”, unless what you really mean is “running out to Huffpo or the Nation or Kos to see what they say the real truth is”, in which case yes, I fall lamentably short.

  10. It takes a matter of minutes. Do it. Check it. Show us how ‘this goes on all the time’.

    Er, that’s exactly what the segment with McGrath is doing. Showing exactly that.

    I’m guessing you will wait for this to go away — because absolutely NOTHING happened. Not unlike McGrath’s claims of something where nothing happened.

    I’m sorry, DG, but with all due respect, get a grip.

    Not only am I not “waiting for this to go away”, I’m ramping up on it. You ain’t seen nothing yet. The Crow Wing County story is just starting.

    Remember that story? The one that happened this year? The one I’ve been doing a slew of reporting on? The one you keep avoiding engaging, to focus on the email from the woman from a few years back?

    Why would you do that, DG?

  11. This is shoveling something stinkier than dirt. Shame on you.

    Sorry, DG. You are wrong on this one – and covering it with a lot of what really amounts to nothing more than browbeating.

    There’ll probably be a post on the general subject tomorrow, and more on Crow Wing County later in the week.

  12. Whew. Dog must be hiding in her little dog house after that beat down. I would ask what DFL sycophancy tastes like, but I really don’t want to know.

  13. The notion that fraudulent registration and voting are not significant has been widely discredited.

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