Joe Doakes from Como writes about the latest round of presidential/vice-presidential campaign junketeering:
What would you say is the most liberal place in Wisconsin? UW-Madison?
How about Iowa? Drake University?
What would you say is the most liberal place in the Twin Cities? Macalester?
Where did the President go last month, and Vice-President today, just four weeks before the election, in prime campaign time?
Why those tiny oases of liberalism rather than larger middle-of-the-road locations? Why spend the entire day on the campaign for Governor of a fly-over state, and not stumping for Congressional candidates in close races around the country?
No other Democrat wants to be anywhere near them.
Desperation.
And fear.
No, not just the “ooooh, you conservatives are motivated by fear!” BS Dems throw out as a substitute for intelligent argument.
It’s the fear that their base is eroding. A confident movement strikes out into territory it hasn’t conquered before – like Reagan into the Rust Belt, or Obama into the suburbs, or like Chip Cravaack into the hinterlands of the Iron Range.
A movement on the defensive hides out in places like UW/Madison and Macalester and tries to keep the less koolaid-sotted droogs from sitting the election completely out.
Yes, both Hamline and Macalester are liberal bastions. It would be interesting to know; a. how many students skipped class today to go listen to two of the most unhinged people in the Demonrat party and b. how many of them are actually MN residents.
You don’t have to be a Minnesota resident to vote in Minnesota. Just ask Mark Ritchie.
C’mon Mitch….the last time Dubya came to Minnesota, he came to Chanhassen…the most Republican city in the most Republican County in the State. It’s what the Twins strived for….called playing a game in your home park.
Ears,
And you think that contradicts my premise exactly how?
Kermit;
Almost forgot about those votes.
Was there a Betty sighting? Studies show that the McCollum tends to go into hiding the closer it gets to election day so she isn’t caught off guard by actually saying what it believes.
I just heard some Biden sound bites from this “rally”, lying, again. Taking the usual Bush lost us millions of jobs, but in 8 months, 750,000 (this number changes daily) private sector jobs that the Obumbler regime has created. Of course, you heard the enthusiastic cheers of the mind numb liberat students in the audience.
Why didn’t he come over here to the U? I am surrounded by tons of (useful) idiots here.
How does it contradict you? Really? When’s the last time Palin or Bachmann “struck out into some territory” not named Fox News? Mitch, if you want to make the argument that the “Establishment” of BOTH parties is guilty of this, I’ll accept that notion. But to pretend this is only a Democratic foible destroys your credibility.
Ears,
You’re mixing up issues here. So I’ll try to explain.
Hostile media is different than hostile territory. Bachmann gains nothing by going on hostile media that’ll benefit her campaign in any way.
Bush campaigned on friendly turf in Chanhassen, as opposed to Frogtown, because the goal in ’08 was to keep from losing the base, not taking new territory. The Dems are in the same boat now.
Both parties observe both hman nature and basic political tactics. Nowhere did I say it was exclusively Democratic.
Ben, Why didn’t he come over here to the U? Because he knows 90% of those folks will be more interested in the beer bong than the voting booth on 11/2.
1100 people showed up to Macalester College to listen to a sitting Democrat VPUSA cheerlead for a Democrat gubernatorial candidate…
1100.
Macalester College.
Democrat VPUSA.
*Blink*
*Blink*
Oh, gawd….here it comes…gonna be a big ‘un…..
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHABiden was an hour late!!HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAH I hear Betty(!) McCollum looked like she was had just accepted the nomination for President!!HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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HAHAHA(Oh GOD, I can’t breath!!)HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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HAHAH(I can’t wait to read Grace Kelly’s report!!)HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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HAHAHAHAHAaaaaaaaahahaha(BIG Kombucha party at Dayton’s house later!)HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAahahahahahahaha
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Ok Mitch, I’ll try to explain too…let me use your own words.
Bachmann [Dems] gains nothing by going on hostile media [turf] that’ll benefit her [their] campaign in any way.
Established Candidates (usually incumbents) stay with their base. Only those “with nothing to lose”, on either side, venture into uncharted waters.
Earsall Mackbee paraphrased:
“I’ll repeat what Mitch said and reiterate that I don’t understand the difference between hostile media and hostile turf or territory”
Is this Peev with yet another new name?
Ears,
You really aren’t tracking, are youi?
You are comparing apples and axles.
Hostile media and hostile turf are tactically unrelated.
Hostile media merely gain a candidate nothing. Michele Bachmann gains nothing by going on an MSNBC talk show; at best, she’s not going to win over their audience, and at worst, you give your opponent ammo. Keith Ellison likewise gains nothing by coming on the NARN, and stands to lose much.
But media is different from turf. Media doesn’t vote; voters do.
Hostile turf gains a candidate a LOT, if there’s enough chance of winning it over to justify the expense and effort. See: MNCD8, WI9, NDAL, NJGov.
Campaigning in hostile territory gains a campaign nothing if the candidate is in danger of losing their base; it’s a pipe dream. You know a campaign knows things are bad when they’re working to shore up home turf.
Media doesn’t vote; voters do.
Sure they do. 95% Democrat.
Mrs. Shirt went to Drake & I basically lived on the Drake campus for those 4 years. It’s not very liberal, it’s relatively conservative in fact. University of Iowa is a whole other story.
Earsall – you’re missing the point of the original post.
Dayton for Governor of Minnesota is peanuts to the National Democratic party. The President is about to lose control of Congress – both houses – and with it, his ability to move his agenda forward. Russ Feingold is losing, for God’s sake! This is a national disaster for the party.
Obama and Biden should be campaigining for Democrat candidates for Congress, where it matters, not wasting an entire day raising campaign money for a guy whose money comes from Cayman Island trust funds. Hey, Bloomberg bought his office on his own dime, Dayton can too. Focus on the important races, the Congressional races.
Unless . . . none of the Democrat candidates want them. “Stop helping me” is what you tell the bumbling idiot who got stuck on your team, not the hot cheerleader or football stud you wish you had. Guess which class Democrats think O and B fit into? And Dayton, too, apparently.
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Kermit, and the kids at Macalester aren’t going to be more interested in beer bongs on 11/2?