Insidious

By Mitch Berg

Article on how to respond to being “gaslit”…

…gaslights half the species (emphasis added by me):

The form of emotional abuse, where someone seeks to make a person doubt their own sanity, is something experienced by many – particularly women, who, according to a 2018 policing report, account for 95% of all gaslighting victims

The linked report, by the way, relies on British police reports from domestic abuse situations in relation to an expansion of domestic abuse law to cover “coercive control”, something that the researchers point out is fuzzy, vague and not the subject of any broad consensus, but was passed by a legislature wanting to expand the definition of “domestic abuse”.

Put another way – data gathered by mental health non-professionals about an ill-defined offense in an area of law that is heavily weighted against men to begin with, related to a psychological phenomenon that even mental health professionals don’t entirely agree on, is being used to tell men they are inclined to abuse women – not to mention giving women the oddly Victorian notion that they are just plain less capable of abuse, particularly psychological abuse, than men.

So – do I credit this to a writer with an agenda? Or to a sloppy, probably 20-something pseudoacademic writer who eagerly prattles what she’s told on command?

I say “why choose?”

13 Responses to “Insidious”

  1. justplainangry Says:

    I think it is more nefarious than that. Expect this study to become a rallying cry to impose same “laws” in this banana republic to increase indictment of more men for domestic abuse crimes. And you know what happens when a man gets indicted? Brownshirts barge into their homes to confiscate their guns. Also note, LG@#$@%$ community9 will be exempt. It sucks to be a white biological heterosexual male in this day and age. Talk about persecution and genocide.

  2. John "Bigman" Jones Says:

    A friend was accused of domestic abuse for “economic controlling” which means “he won’t let me spend as much as I want on the credit cards, he’s always going on about the budget and how we don’t have any money in the bank, and that makes me feel bad.”

  3. bikebubba Says:

    Actually, at least one domestic violence appraisal, the domestic violence inventory, accuses 61% of the population (which would be all men and a bunch of women) of being at moderate, strong, or severe risk of committing domestic violence. It’s about 150 questions linked to six parameters–honesty, drugs, alcohol, control, violence, and coping–and hence it appears to be worked with an artificial intelligence (AI) algorithm that seems to flag some minorities especially highly.

    Now compare that with the (my estimate) 10-15% of people who are accused of physical domestic violence, and what you see is that the type 1 (false positives) error for this test is at least 75%. Do that as a quality engineer in a factory, and you will be having a talk with the plant manager in a hurry, and a very unpleasant one that may result in losing your job.

    And of course, since the system is AI–you can’t do that many regressions with interactions by hand after all–the logic it’s using is opaque and not amenable to being challenged in court. More or less, it’s criminalizing being human.

  4. Maga Mammuthus Primigenesis Says:

    What is a woman?

  5. Greg Says:

    Maga,

    And what do women want?
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    .
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    No one knows, not even women, but we do know what feminists want – to rein supreme.

    Would that be like wanting to be a supremacist?

  6. bikebubba Says:

    One thing that is also useful is to, interestingly, take a look at the Duluth Model power and control wheel, and to place that in the context of a divorce, especially an acrimonious one. The aggressive spouse–who is female 2/3 of the time–makes a threat (to leave), works to control money (through alimony, child support, and divorce decrees), is making all the big decisions (to leave for starters), defines roles, often uses children to manipulate the other spouse, intensively (rightly or wrongly) blames the other for most/all problems, and tends to (through talking to mutual friends) isolate the other spouse. As I noted on my blog, I can name names.

    In other words, it’s a nice little trip around a lot of the factors of the Duluth power & control wheel. You will find few people more strongly against actual domestic abuse than I, but at the same time, you will find few people more horrified by how we’re trying to handle it today. I’ve seen it up close, and the models they’re using simply do not work.

  7. Starbuck Says:

    Look, I get it. Women use guys for shit all the time. As a woman, who is reasonably attractive and could follow the same path, I think it’s disgusting. Always have.

    Point being…as a woman I do not seek to ‘rein supreme’. I only want to live my life, keep up my home, be a good neighbor, and live accordingly. Those women who use their ‘feminine guile’ NEED to rein supreme, because they have nothing else. And if they become ‘gaslit’? Well, damn sister, maybe get your shit together instead of relying on someone to support you financially.

    So fuck ‘em. Just don’t group all of us together….some chicks are actually pretty cool with no agenda….

  8. Greg Says:

    Just to be clear, I do not fault women in general with the charge of supremacy, though it is an offense which modern feminism is clearly guilty of.

    Take a look at the recent DFL abortion law.

    Opinions on the matter range from total abolition on one hand to the extreme of being perfectly legal in Minnesota to bash in the head of a child, a mere instant before its first breath – then chop up the caraccas and sell the body parts to the highest bidder.

    One can argue that a total ban on abortion is less about the sanctity of life and more about controlling women. Though I don’t buy that argument , it is an honest one and has a lot of validity in a world where women bare the cost of becoming pregnant.

    On the other hand, what conceivable mindset results in a law that allows the murder of a viable child and the sale of her body parts?

    Feminist supremacy is the most obvious explanation. It’s simply a mindset that places the whims of women above all other interests.

    It is supremacy in its rawest form.

  9. bikebubba Says:

    OK, regarding prenatal infanticide, I’d argue that while there is an “immediate beneficiary” of the mother who doesn’t need to care for the child, the men who “love them and leave them” also benefit in that they can….”love them and leave them” without consequence beyond the cost of the abortion. And then both sexes lose because they are then in a situation where (a) the long term benefits of marriage are lost to an increasing portion of people and (b) both men and women suffer from the fallout of promiscuity–STDs, mental illness, and the like.

    Now I would guess that others here are correct that there is indeed a “war of the sexes” or a “war for supremacy” in which many are attempting (some successfully) to weaponize the courts and the law on their side. But at a more basic level, what we’ve got is something of a suicide pact between the sexes where we’re competing, as it were, to find the most damaging things to do to ourselves.

  10. Maga Mammuthus Primigenesis Says:

    I’ve seen it up close, and the models they’re using simply do not work.
    What models do “they” have that do work?
    Not climate models.
    Not economic models.
    Not pandemic models.
    Not crime policing models.
    The question about political oppression models is still open.

  11. Maga Mammuthus Primigenesis Says:

    Bikebubba, am I the only one who sees the connection between the feminists’ demand for abortion up to birth (and beyond), as an inversion of the female instinct to care for an nurture their children? Males have this very deep instinct to view their children as competitors for the affections of his mate. It is suppressed by the ego. Mothers have a similar instinct to view their children as their property, and as extensions of themselves, that her ego is supposed to suppress.
    I’m not talking about the anxiety and concern of a woman when she has an unwanted pregnancy, I’m talking about the women who are vocal, blue-haired abortion enthusiasts.

  12. bikebubba Says:

    UMMP, the models I’ve said do not work are the Duluth model for domestic violence, which more or less assume that domestic violence is the result of patriarchy (who exactly is the patriarch in a lesbian relationship, and are there two in homosexual relationships), and then you’ve got the reality that just about anything can be described as “emotional abuse”, including the process that a great portion of divorces go through. Ironically, a case I’m familiar with featured a woman committing a great amount of abuse of her husband while claiming she was the one to be abused.

    Or perhaps that is the goal. But that is my perspective.

  13. bikebubba Says:

    Regarding radical support for abortion, it certainly is an inversion of the normal maternal instinct, but the thing that strikes me most often is that those “blue haired feminists” you write of seem to be….IMO….”unlikely candidates for being impregnated”, if you catch my drift. I am not quite sure what their motivation is for allowing the killing of babies that they seem to be very unlikely to conceive, apart from the abortion issue being IMO a convenient bludgeon with which to achieve political ends–e.g. womens’ votes for socialism, I’d think.

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