Effective
By Mitch Berg
The by-no-means-right-of-center Saint Cloud Times endorsed our old friend King Banaian in his re-election bid in Saint Cloud:
Given an effective first term, Banaian deserves re-election. He authored the Sunset Commission law and helped college students with textbook prices. His expertise in economics also is a strength.
They also acknowledge that the district is full of government clients who would happily sell the state as whole down the river for extra bread and circuses for state employees:
DFL challenger Zach Dorholt presents a formidable challenge in large part because Banaian’s allegiance to hardline GOP fiscal and business principles might not sell well in a district that’s home to a public university and many public-sector employees.
The paper’s right – King won by 10 votes after a recount, down from a couple dozen on election night, in 2010 – but redistricting was, by most accounts, kind to King. While some commentators call this race a toss-up, I think that between redistricting and the fact that Obama will have all the coattails of a hunting vest, King will start to pull away this round.
October 23rd, 2012 at 7:37 am
I’ll take a landslide win of 20 votes! But when the local paper that doesn’t like conservatives is supporting King you know how good of a job that he has done.
Walter Hanson
Minneapolis, MN
October 23rd, 2012 at 11:09 am
Obama will have all the coattails of a hunting vest,
Romney/Ryan appears to be more of a down ballot disaster; Obama seems to be doing pretty well.
He can win debates, and he is factually more accurate and far less of a flip flopper than the right wingers.
With the Congress having the worst approval ratings in the history of approval ratings, it seems that 2010 success of the tea party is now being given a pretty consistent thumbs down for massive epic failure, and it is the right wingers in Congress who have the worst disapproval ratings of anyone.
The MN Legislature right wing majority did a terrible job; shutting down the state government and the downgrading of the state credit rating……not to mention the failure to do much of anything substantial other than engage in culture war crap.
No, I think there is still some pretty substantive opposition to most if not all of the right wing candidates, at all levels. Weren’t you just predicting wins for the left yourself? Or are your doing a romney style flip flop again?
Right wing ideas do not work in practice; austerity has not been successful. I was tepid about supporting Dayton, but thank god he was in office to curb the ideological excess of the right wing hypocrites as they sold us out to ALEC special interests.
Wait a minute…….wasn’t Banion on that ALEC gravy train too?
October 23rd, 2012 at 11:28 am
DG where’s your homework?
DG said:
We seem to have had another ‘drive by’ commenting, where someone visits, makes an comment full of unsubstantiated accusations, and then runs away when they can’t provide facts to refute a substantive refutation of their accusations.
Sad. But typical of the reactionary/progressive ideology that puts what they want to believe in place of what is factual. – September 29, 2012 2:00 AM”
October 23rd, 2012 at 11:41 am
While I generally don’t have much emotional or intellectual capital invested in this election, I will say, if Romney manages to win this thing, I’m going to buy a nice big bottle of Grey Goose, navigate over to Smegma’s blog thingee, and just radiate in the pure, undiluted awesomeness of shameless, unshackled Schadenfreude.
October 23rd, 2012 at 11:50 am
DG,
It’s always a debate: respond to DG, who – almost as a law of physics – will not respond? Why? Just to show you can? This blog is itself evidence of that!
BTW, I’ll echo KRod to a degree; you do owe us some homework. How EXACTLY was the Cornish proposal “crap legislation”? I suspect you don’t know, and were just repeating a chanting point – and that suspicion gets more and more evidence with everything you write.
So please, surprise me.
October 23rd, 2012 at 11:51 am
Romney/Ryan appears to be more of a down ballot disaster; Obama seems to be doing pretty well.
Please feel free to substantiate.
(There’s a first time for everything).
October 23rd, 2012 at 11:52 am
He can win debates,
Although he apparently chose not to do so this time around, going 0-1-2. The polling after Debate 2 would seem to mock your conclusion.
October 23rd, 2012 at 11:53 am
and he is factually more accurate and far less of a flip flopper than the right wingers.
As to “factual accuracy”, DG, it’s become fairly clear that that means “congruent with lefty chanting points” to you, for yourself, your blog and your President.
As to “flip flopping” – if you’re referring to Romney’s changes to the right, those are inherently good things.
Or were you referring to Obama’s explanation of Benghazi?
October 23rd, 2012 at 11:56 am
With the Congress having the worst approval ratings in the history of approval ratings, it seems that 2010 success of the tea party is now being given a pretty consistent thumbs down for massive epic failure,
a) We’ll see.
b) Congressional approval ratings are utterly meaningless in and of themselves. There will be about 470 individual polls in two weeks that will provide the only meaningful measure of that body’s “approval”.
October 23rd, 2012 at 11:57 am
and it is the right wingers in Congress who have the worst disapproval ratings of anyone.
I’d ask for a cite – in vain, naturally – but it is of no importance in any way.
October 23rd, 2012 at 11:59 am
The MN Legislature right wing majority did a terrible job; shutting down the state government and the downgrading of the state credit rating……not to mention the failure to do much of anything substantial other than engage in culture war crap.
Other than elimating the “deficit”, you mean? Or keeping the state’s unemployment rate a point or two below the national average?
BTW, Dayton chose the shutdown, not the GOP. And it was when he went to “rallies” in Albert Lea and St. Paul, sparsely attended by dispirited government union employees, that he retreated to Saint Paul and dealt on the deal.
Of course, his PR cover – from the Strib all the way down to Penigma – has been running cover for those facts ever since.
But those were the facts.
October 23rd, 2012 at 12:09 pm
No, I think there is still some pretty substantive opposition to most if not all of the right wing candidates, at all levels. Weren’t you just predicting wins for the left yourself? Or are your doing a romney style flip flop again?
Was I just predicting wins for the left?
Try to follow me here. I “predicted” that if Obama didn’t win, and flip both chambers Democrat, that it’d be a humiliation for the Democrats.
Are you smellin’ what I’m cookin’ yet?
October 23rd, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Right wing ideas do not work in practice;
Other than the Roaring Twenties, the Fifties and 1983 through 2001, you mean?
austerity has not been successful.
YES!
And “Austerity” – cutbacks on GOVERNMENT SOCIAL SPENDING – are a tool that is only meaningful in a statist context!
October 23rd, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Wait a minute…….wasn’t Banion on that ALEC gravy train too?
You mean, did Banaian – get the name right, please – pay voluntary dues out of his own pocket to join a group that discusses conservative legislative ideas?
Such a gravy train.
Yet another “fact” you have gotten wrong.
October 23rd, 2012 at 12:13 pm
As always, DG, two constants come to mind:
1) You’ll never respond, because you really can’t.
2) If you call something “fact”, the right response is to distrust, verify, and pretty much inevitably find the distrust justified.
October 23rd, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Another instance where the Dog comes in and poops on the carpet, then runs off to cower in the corner for it’s rude behavior.
October 23rd, 2012 at 12:36 pm
DG;dr
October 23rd, 2012 at 1:48 pm
DG,
Obama seems to be doing pretty well
Down five in the Rasmussen Swing State poll. That’s Rasmussen – the one, along with SUSA, Gallup and (to an extent) PPP that is actually accurate.
It’s funny, DG – for someone who talks so much about “facts”, you seem to have command of precious few of them.
October 23rd, 2012 at 3:44 pm
Argumentum ad tl;dr: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop#Argumentum_ad_tl.3Bdr
A related distraction technique, familiar to readers of A Storehouse of Knowledge, involves swamping an opponent in long-winded screeds of text to artificially inflate the appearance of depth and quality of information presented. Quite often, the actual content of several paragraphs can be summed in a sentence. While the Gish Gallop floods an opponent with many, but relatively short points, argumentum ad tl;dr flings text walls so massive and impenetrable that even Victor Hugo would blush. Both tactics, however, have exactly the same purpose: to bury and obfuscate the core points that need to be discussed under a quantity of superfluous information. A user might well think that these techniques show that they know what they’re talking about, but in the end they act simply as distractions.
October 23rd, 2012 at 4:09 pm
Romney/Ryan appears to be more of a down ballot disaster; Obama seems to be doing pretty well.
Vacuous opinion. Adds nothing to the point. Leave out.
He can win debates, and he is factually more accurate and far less of a flip flopper than the right wingers.
Does this refer to Romney or Obama? In any case, vacuous opinion. No one cares. Leave out.
With the Congress having the worst approval ratings in the history of approval ratings, it seems that 2010 success of the tea party is now being given a pretty consistent thumbs down for massive epic failure, and it is the right wingers in Congress who have the worst disapproval ratings of anyone.
Not sure what the point is supposed to be, here. Congressional approval rating is not a predictor of who will hold congress after the election. The Tea Party candidates of 2012 seem to be doing quite well in the polls.
The MN Legislature right wing majority did a terrible job; shutting down the state government and the downgrading of the state credit rating……not to mention the failure to do much of anything substantial other than engage in culture war crap.
More vacuous opinion. DG tells us what she believes, but not why. Who cares? Leave out.
No, I think there is still some pretty substantive opposition to most if not all of the right wing candidates, at all levels. Weren’t you just predicting wins for the left yourself? Or are your doing a romney style flip flop again?
Can’t find any kind of point here at all . . .
Right wing ideas do not work in practice; austerity has not been successful. I was tepid about supporting Dayton, but thank god he was in office to curb the ideological excess of the right wing hypocrites as they sold us out to ALEC special interests.
Again, I can’t find the point. What is “austerity”? Who is promoting it? What is its opposite? How can you say “austerity” has not been successful if you don’t know what it means?
Wait a minute…….wasn’t Banion on that ALEC gravy train too?
What is an ALEC “gravy Train”? How is it different from, say, the oragnized labor “gravy train”?
An utter waste of time to read. It’s the DG equivalent of standing up in a bus and lecturing the riders on their imagined opinions.
October 23rd, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Interestingly enough, the liberal Sun Current endorsed Erik Paulsen over Brian “Illegal Campaign Signs” Barnes. They felt that Brian would be “heard from again,” but for now, Paulsen was the best person for the job.
I also want to know what Doggy Poop has to say about the more than 636,000 people that are homeless under Oblahblah? Or how about your favorite libturd Senator Amy “Never Met a Photo Op Go to Waste” Klobuchar and her gratuitous acceptance of campaign money from Tom Petters and his employees or the shameless lies told by Mad Mark Dayton’s family propaganda machine? I’m sure that in her magic world of Leprechauns and unicorns, these abominations are acceptable.
October 24th, 2012 at 1:37 am
Dog must have missed that first debate where democrats by a large margin said Romney won.
Dog must have missed that second debate where Obama didn’t know that the government had cut back on leases on federal lands and the increased oil production came from private lands using techniques which the environment crowd wants stopped.
Dog must be missing the polls where Romney is gaining ground on the national level providing coattails for the Senate.
Dog must be on the stuff Joe and Obama used for their debates.
Walter Hanson
Minneapolis, MN
October 24th, 2012 at 2:51 am
Walter Hanson, you can not believe how thick DG is.
She wrote that the reason that the press did not cover John Edwards’ blatant adultery with Reille Hunter was because they wanted to spare Elizabeth Edwards’ feelings.
Really.
There have been four Democrat VP picks since 1992. Al Gore, Joe Lieberman, John Edwards, and Joe Biden. Other than Lieberman, they have all been looneys.
Which one do you think the Dems rejected?
That’s right, Joe Lieberman.
My God, if you were an independent or undecided voter, that alone should make you run to the pols to vote R. They are all mad over there.
October 24th, 2012 at 6:20 am
Dog must be on the stuff Joe and Obama used for their debates.
Chanting points from the lefty noise machine?
Yep.
October 24th, 2012 at 10:26 am
Ya know, no one gives dog woman a harder judgement than me, but truth be told, I do feel sorry for her.
Sitting there alone every day, scowl permenantly running across her rat face, no chance of ever landing a man.
Even if she started out dumb as a post, her miserable excuse of a life cannot have helped. Too, if she had half a brain, she’d probably have dragged a razor blade across her stick like wrists long ago…for her, mind numbing stupidity is a self protection tool.