The Tradition Continues
By Mitch Berg
Quote A:
“I think it’s simplistic and naive to say people can spend their money better than the government.”
Quote B:
“When you guys win, you get to keep your money. When we win, we take your money.”
Quote C:
“And now will these Americans, Children planted by our Care, nourished up by our Indulgence until they are grown to a Degree of Strength & Opulence, and protected by our Arms, will they grudge to contribute their mite to relieve us from the heavy weight of that burden which we lie under?”
No peeking – which quote was by:
- Charles Townsend, Brit parliamentarian who believed Americans should be happy to pay for a better UK,
- DFL Senate majority leader Larry Pogemiller
- St. Paul legislator Cy Thao
Bonus question: What’s the difference, really?
A few more terms of DFL control and every Minnesotan will be required to wear diapers.
(Quotes via Roosh, Gross and I)
March 24th, 2008 at 7:07 am
Mitch quoted: “Charles Townsend, Brit parliamentarian who believed Americans should be happy to pay for a better UK,
DFL Senate majority leader Larry Pogemiller
St. Paul legislator Cy Thao
Bonus question: What’s the difference, really?”
Taxation without representation is tyranny. Taxation with representation is democracy.
Hope that helps.
March 24th, 2008 at 7:40 am
Actually AC, you can have taxation with representation and not have a democracy. The important part is how you get to be a representative, I think. Anyway, there does seem to be some congruence in the opinions expressed: one from a ‘tyrant’, two from MN representatives.
March 24th, 2008 at 8:04 am
Clown,
If you’re “represented” by someone who belittles your intelligence and thinks you are nothing but a ripe suck and an open wallet, what’s the difference?
Barring the odd election, I mean?
March 24th, 2008 at 8:31 am
It’s that last bit, Chachi. If you’re too cheap to support programs legislated by your state government, get a new state government. Failing that, you could always move someplace with a more enlighted view of taxation and government spending. Like Alabama or Bulgaria.
March 24th, 2008 at 8:50 am
get a new state government
That’d be the ulterior motive of this post. Y’see.
March 24th, 2008 at 8:52 am
More stadiums, please.
March 24th, 2008 at 9:01 am
Move to New York, PeterH. Two new stadiums in the works. And you can visit Johan Santana.
March 24th, 2008 at 9:06 am
Johan Santana
Yeah – look what getting traded to the Mets did for Frank Viola.
March 24th, 2008 at 9:09 am
Uh, guys, a little bad news: we do have taxation and a democracy. We are supposed to have a constitutional representative REPUBLIC. That’s the unfortunate part. We relied on people keeping their oath of office (PRESERVE, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, not INTERPRET, bend to suit or ignore the Constitution of the United States). Barring that we relied on the judicial branch to be our firewall. How’s that worked?
I took the full year long business law sequence at the U of MN. The Constitution was/is a contract between the states and this new thing called a federal government. Any ruling needs to be interpreted as to what the original signatories/ratifying states understood that agreement to be. Any contract brought before the courts is interpreted as to what the signers understood.
Therefore, with the oath of office preserve etc, and with Congress only being able to do what’s outlined in Article 1 section 8, coupled with that real pesky 10th Amendment from the Bill of Rights (Amendment X as they were numbered with Roman numerals) , you’d think it would be a very simple case to gut at least 70% of the federal budget and the Federal Register. Simple. Not easy. And not easy as we really do live in a functional democracy. Therefore, the only hope of consistency in the law for some sort of liberty is to elect Constitution believing and honoring Senators and Reps.
Fat chance.
March 24th, 2008 at 9:41 am
Wow, a full-year undergrad business law course! That makes you a regular Alan Doucheowitz.
You might want to take the follow-up course, in which you’ll learn about developments that occurred after your eponymous amendment. Stuff like the 14th Amendment, Civil War and Reconstruction, Industrial Revolution.
March 24th, 2008 at 9:56 am
Quote A: Larry Pogemiller
Quote B: Cy Thao (ain’t democracy wonderful?)
Quote C: The Monarchist
There, was that so difficult?
March 24th, 2008 at 10:40 am
Wow, a full-year undergrad business law course! That makes you a regular Alan Doucheowitz.
That’s right! Only lawyers should talk about law!
And only professional baseball players should talk baseball.
It’s why I never talk about the itinerant entertainer biz with the Clown. I’m just not qualified.
March 24th, 2008 at 10:48 am
But when Angryclown talks about baseball, he doesn’t preface his opinions by trying to impress everyone with his extensive Little League experience.
March 24th, 2008 at 10:52 am
He doesn’t talk about his Big League experience either. He could be a “regular Alan Doucheowitz” for all we know. 😉
March 24th, 2008 at 11:15 am
Or a “Johan Stupido”.