A Bit Thick
By Mitch Berg
“MNob” at Norwegianity tries to turn my genuine, apolitical tribute the the late Nick Mancini into a political screed.
Oh, she fails, of course, because whenever MNob (or pretty much any other leftyblogger) wants to tangle with me on any subject she always fails, and always will.
But on this topic MNob is…well, a bit thick, as the sage might say:
what the suddenly ethic-loving right wing fails to grasp is that Mancini’s is in the middle of the bluest neighborhood in the bluest city in the bluest state.
“Suddenly ethnic-loving”. Hah. That’s funny, coming from someone as screechingly myopic as Ms. Nob. Nobster: I am demonstrably more ethnically eclectic, in terms of personal anscestry, experience and overall fluency, than you will ever be. We can take that to the bank.
But it’s the “bluest neighborhood” thing that’s more “interesting”, where “interesting” in this case means “removed from reality in kind of a bizarre way”. Nob – so what? It’s my city. Nick Mancini was a restauranteur – one who (unlike some hypothetical MNob-owned restaurant, presuming MNob is a better cook and entertainer than lawyer) leaves his politics at the door.
Which is what MNob should do with her rhetoric, since…
Dave Thune has his election parties there, and it’s safe to assume that those GOP faithful visiting are doing so as if venturing into some odd ethnic enclave.
…she’s wrong. Tim Pawlenty, Norm Coleman, Phil Krinkie, Joe Soucheray, Randy Kelly, Jerry Blakey and all manner of non-DFL, non-“blue blue blue” politicians and media figures have turned up at Mancini’s over the years, for all the same reasons that Dave Thune does; because Nick Mancini welcomed everyone, and, unlike MNob, didn’t let politics overcome basic human character and decency.
It’s “safe to assume” that Republicans who go there think they’re on some sort of safari? Jeez, someone’s been marinading her brain in the cliche bucket.
It’s the West End – the part of the city Mitch Berg has labeled the semi-gritty, somewhat downmarket West End of Saint Paul. It’s the real childhood home of Nick and Chris Coleman, although Mitch seems to want to forget that part.
“Seems to forget it?”
No, MNob, I know that the Coleman brothers – children of one of Minnesota’s most powerful politicians, stepchildren of one of its most powerful publishers – wrap themselves in the West End’s blue-collar mien at every opportunity. But since I was paying tribute to Nick Mancini, I figured it really didn’t contribute to the original story. Her little snif is to be expected of someone who didn’t mention even one word about Coleman’s skill on the bagpipes.
It’s racially integrated, has small houses, and has a whole host of functioning neighborhood groups and churches – social engineering at its worst! It’s the home of the people who defeated the state-subsideized [sic] Gopher State Ethanol plant. It’s the neighborhood that figured out how to make sure that 35E will never ever have a speed limit of more than 45 miles per hour.
All of which I’m on the record as supporting the West Enders on, by the way, not that MNob would let anything get past her Impenetrable Wall of Stereotypes.
Like…
And as much as Mitch and Erik Hare get along, Erik lives in Irvine Park, the snooty appendage to the real West End.
The lawyer is dinging on people for being snooty!
It’s the sort of neighborhood and restaurant the average Anti-Strib and Shot in the Dark reader holds a romanticized image of, but would never actually visit, and would likely get lost in if they tried.
So do us all a favor and stay in Minneapolis. I’m sure there’s some corporate chain steak place you can visit without having your sensibilities offended by the genuineness of Mancini’s.
And I repeat: …not that MNob would let anything get past her Impenetrable Wall of Stereotypes.
I know nothing about MNob’s background – but since she never lets that stop her, I’ll feel free to fill in the blanks. MNob – while adding zilch to the discussion about Mancini – has shown that like most preening, stereotype-sodden liberal city residents, she’s terribly insecure about what must certainly have been her privileged suburban upbringing (I’m guessing Plymouth), and about the simple fact that she’s less eclectic, less tolerant, and not nearly as good a feminist as I am.
Dave Thune, by the way, is a fellow North Dakota expat. Say “hi” from me, wouldja?
Never send a Nob do to a Wege’s job.





June 5th, 2007 at 6:31 am
ethic-loving or ethnic-loving? That one little letter makes a world of difference.
June 5th, 2007 at 7:36 am
Golly, does MNOB project much? In her typical “missing the point” fashion, MnObserver steps WAY over the line on this. Just to be clear, I am a regular at Mancini’s. My holiday dinners with the boys take place down there, my b-day dinners take place down there, hell I have a damn gift card right now and plan on getting down there to use that and spend some of my hard earned money to support Pat and Johnny and the family.
Romanticize, MNOB? Um, I have spent more than a passing moment down there, you dullard. I have family in the area and spent many a weekend down there. As a kid, special family dinners took place at Mancini’s. Hell, I spent many a cramped high school weekend at my cousins efficiency just down the street on St. Clair.
I say all this not that I need to justify myself to the likes of you MNOB, you unhappy puke. But I do feel the need to set the record straight and truly do feel for the entire Mancini family for their loss. While you take the opportunity to bash anyone right of the fever swamp for their rememberance of Nick, we have all done nice tributes to the man that redefined the term hospitality. You just ripped on others and didn’t even attempt to do a tribute to Nick.
You’re a miserable cow, MNOB. Now go somewhere and crawl up your own ass.
June 5th, 2007 at 9:28 am
I’m a Republican from Minneapolis, and I was just in Mancini’s on Saturday night. Was that wrong? And I thought it was a restaurant–one of several restaurants in an area I go to regularly. I didn’t realize I needed to bring my sensibilities. My sensibilities usually don’t like it when I drink, so I leave them at home. But I promise to bring them next time. I’ll talk to them beforehand and make sure they’re not offended by the place’s genuiness or scared by all that ethnicity.
My sensibilities…I don’t know how they’ve gotten so delicately suburban, considering that I was born and raised in a blue-collar “ethnic” neighborhood (though of course we never used the word “ethnic”) and have never chosen to live in the burbs as an adult. And my native Chicago is dotted with Italian char houses just like Mancini’s. You’d think I’d be used to it all by now.
June 5th, 2007 at 10:53 am
What you “guys” don’t get is that MNOb can not separate politics from anything. Politics IS EVERYTHING…..Because she would never be caught dead going to any restaurant in the “very, very” red neighborhoods of Scott county, she assumes that we righties would never, ever be caught dead in her blue neighborhoods.
I would venture to guess that she has buyblue.org bookmarked on her computer and that she does not shop without consulting it first!
LL
June 5th, 2007 at 11:46 am
Everybody went (and goes) to Nick’s and nobdy fretted – because if you got out of line, ol’ Nick would just toss you right out of there. I don’t think he gave a hoot about the politics of his guests – he cared that they were his customers.
Also – that horse-hockey about the 45 mph speed limit on that downtown stretch of 35E? She thinks that sign has any meaning? Forget about it. Nobody, and I do mean nobody, obeys that speed limit. It’s a dumb speed limit and it’s routinely flouted and almost never enforced. This dame doesn’t know what she’s talking about.
June 5th, 2007 at 12:07 pm
Nobody, and I do mean nobody, obeys that speed limit
Actually, I do. I mean, I never go over 50 on the West End. Partly because I hate getting pulled over, and partly because I agree with the idea behind the speed limit in the first place.
But you’re right; Mancini was too smart to get all knotted up about politics. He was a businessman. And a damn good one.
June 5th, 2007 at 1:47 pm
Dave Thune is from NoDak? That’s too bad for that great state’s rep – but I don’t see them sending any rescue parties to try and get him back. Maybe they kicked his commie *ss out of there…