A Good Guy With A Car?
By Mitch Berg
The city of Minneapolis just released the dispatch report re the Officer Jamal Mitchell shooting.
A good guy with a car [1] apparently rammed shooter Mustafa Mohammed, who was apparently attacking a bystander on a scooter, possibly breaking his leg and immobilizing him:
According to the Computer Aided Dispatch (CAD) report, before police arrived on the scene, the driver of a Subaru came across the Suspect, Mustafa Mohamed, outside the apartment where he’s reportedly just shot two people.
ossibly breaking his leg.The witness says after he hit him, Mohamed reached into his waistband and pulled out what was possibly a gun, and started firing. Police arrived shortly thereafter.
I’d bet a shiny new quarter Moriarty charges the good samaritan driver, but I don’t think anyone’ll take the bet.
[1] whose name is clearly visible in Fox9’s video on the story.
June 6th, 2024 at 9:36 am
driver of a Subaru
What? A good guy in a SUBARU? Who knew!? Alas, looking at the details you posted and applying duty to retreat logic, I think law may be on Moriarty’s side. But then “law” no longer means what it used to.
June 6th, 2024 at 10:16 am
There’s a video circulating of a white woman accosted by a black male purse snatcher on campus while some white guy guy sits on the grass watching until she appeals to him and he runs away! Lots of down clicks but I suspect he’s got the measure of our “judicial system” nowadays. Intervene to protect a woman? Toxic masculinity. Intervene against a black man? White supremacy. And God help him if he injures someone. Being expelled is the least of his worries.
Same with the Subaru driver. Unless the victim of the assault was somebody I’m willing to go to prison for – wife or kids – I wouldn’t risk getting involved. True, I could attempt to assert self-defense of others, in which I step into the shoes of the original victims so if they couldn’t retreat, I don’t have to. I might even win, if I can afford enough lawyers to defeat the state’s bottomless coffers, if the judge allowes me to assert that defense, if the jury isn’t twelve Liberals who want the verdict to make a political statement, and if the court of appeals deigns to review the evidence.
Pass. You’re on your own.
June 6th, 2024 at 10:17 am
Posted a comment at 10:16, moderation. No idea why. Is there a list of No No Words to avoid, or is this more like Calvinball, with ever-changing rules?
June 6th, 2024 at 10:25 am
Bigman,
No idea.
But…
Unless the victim of the assault was somebody I’m willing to go to prison for – wife or kids – I wouldn’t risk getting involved. True, I could attempt to assert self-defense of others, in which I step into the shoes of the original victims so if they couldn’t retreat, I don’t have to
Remember – when a cop is the victim, the circumstances change.
I interviewed Lyle Granlund, after he shot at the guy who killed two Saint Paul cops, marking his car and likely saving the life of a witness (story here). The Ramco attorney did indeed try to prosecute him – until the cops told Foley they wouldn’t cooperate.
One hopes the MPD would similarly exercise their veto.
Of course, that doesn’t apply when regular civilians are the victims. That’s a problem.
June 6th, 2024 at 11:44 am
“Same with the Subaru driver. Unless the victim of the assault was somebody I’m willing to go to prison for – wife or kids – I wouldn’t risk getting involved.”
Agreed.
I was raised differently by my parents, but all my life, people in positions of authority have been telling me that, when something bad happens, call the authorities and let the professionals handle it.
Up to about a decade ago I thought that was bad advice. Now, unless it is me or my family in danger, I’m determined to abide by it.
My responsibility is to protect myself and my family from harm. The responsibility for everyone else’s well being is on them.
I don’t expect help from anyone else so I try to be as prepared and properly equipped as possible; and I expect everyone else to do the same. You weren’t properly equipped or prepared to defend yourself? That’s on you. I’ll call 911 and report it, and I’ll try to be a good witness, but otherwise you’re on your own.
That may make me a coward or a villain to some people, but at least I’ll be a cowardly villain who’s not imprisoned for my good deeds. I can live with that.
And remember: when seconds count, the Police are only minutes (or, in some jurisdictions, hours) away.
June 6th, 2024 at 12:10 pm
Good advice from SailorCurt and Mr Jones. I can’t help but think, however, that we (as a society) are not that far away from widespread vigilantism. Instapundit quips that the police aren’t there to protect us from criminals but to protect criminals from us.
June 6th, 2024 at 12:28 pm
Just after the news about this tragedy, I seem to recall a report that the Subaru driver and at least two other witnesses, were yelling to Officer Mitchell that the guy on the ground is the shooter and he has a gun. Haven’t heard that since.
I’m really conflicted on being a Good Samaritan, even to help with a tire change, which I have done for three women over the years. I fear that when confronted with a situation, especially if it involves a woman, I would have visions of the important females in my life flashing in front of me. Jumping into action would certainly be a result of both my upbringing and my military service.
June 6th, 2024 at 1:06 pm
If, by some odd twist of fate, I am ever in the Metro area and happen a robbery, rape or assault, the best I am willing to offer is a 911 call.
And that is it.
June 6th, 2024 at 1:44 pm
I think Moriarity has her own problems after just getting spanked by jello fist in the iron glove Walz. MM can’t argue law or facts now, so all she has left is pounding the table. Prosecuting someone who helped stop a cop killer, after playing Centrifical Bumble Puppy with prosecuting a cop is not a strong hand to play.
June 6th, 2024 at 2:00 pm
All good points, NW. On the other hand, this knucklehead tried to play the “queer” card as the reason Gov Wally was going to take her off the Londregan case. I don’t think she’s smart/rational enough to choose wisely.
June 6th, 2024 at 2:13 pm
I think her end game is to position herself for a nice buy-out. She has no tread or capital in her role now. Her staff will all be bailing, or trying to position themselves to replace her.
June 6th, 2024 at 2:48 pm
NW.
Her partner also came to claim Commandant Klink is a homophobe.