Anti-gun groups peddled influence in the Centers for Disease Control to gundeck research that showed defensive gun uses by civilians are common. It’s just bad for business, if you’re a gun grabber.
The decision to remove a CDC-commissioned report from the agency’s website on gun statistics at the apparent behest of gun-control advocates may further strain its relationship with Congressional overseers, especially pro-gun Republicans who are set to take control of the House next year. The relationship between the two, already frayed over the Coronavirus pandemic, could reach new lows not seen in decades. During the 1990s, Congress put restrictions on CDC funding in response to officials openly working with gun-control groups to try and ban handguns.
“We need to revolutionize the way we look at guns, like what we did with cigarettes,” Mark Rosenberg, director of the CDC’s National Center for Injury Prevention, told The Washington Post in 1994. “It used to be that smoking was a glamour symbol–cool, sexy, macho. Now it is dirty, deadly–and banned.”
Kleck, Professor Emeritus at Florida State University’s College of Criminology and Criminal Justice, stood by his research. He said the CDC did not reach out to him for his perspective before making the change. He argued the removal of the reference to his estimate was “blatant censorship” and said it was evidence of the politicization of the agency.
Kleck – a Democrat – has been a Thomas Becket to the gun grabbers’ Henry II for three decades now. Seems the grabbers have decided to cut out the middleman.
First Covid, now putting a finger on the scale re guns.
I’m building a list of alphabet agencies some future GOP administration is going to need to gut, using the Marines if necessary.
UPDATE: Becket. Not More. Blah
If it depends on tax dollars to operate, it’s most likely a grift, at best. And that covers every government bureaucracy.
The NSA; CIA; FBI; DHS; IRS; CDC; DOEd; Treasury; Fed Reserve; DOD…all corrupted by political agendas, greed and lust for power and control.
Even here-to-fore reliable public health operations, like the American Lung Association have been corrupted, and are not above using skeezy data to force legislation.
It’s just yet another indication of a failing country.
Humility is not the long suite of the left,and we are fast approaching the point when they won’t feel the need to be circumspect about the fact that they’ve effectively boxed in the conservatives. They’ve won. Where are are conservatives going to turn?
The left owns Hollywood and the big publishers,
they own the Justice department and every other federal/state agency,
they own the MSM,
they’ve effectively co-opted big tech(for all you naifs who believe google, yahoo, MS aren’t using an AI to read and categorize ALL your emails dream on),
they have “partnered” with big corporations having wiped out or crippled a significant amount of small businesses with the Wuhan flu response,
the medical professions have no independent will toward integrity,
and finally they’ve corrupted the education system from end to end.
Sadly conservatives seem to think that a 5-6 vote majority in the House of Representatives will somehow turn this all around – talk about delusional.
Not a big fan of John Lennon, but he did get it right in his Working Class Hero”
Keep you doped with religion and sex and TV
And you think you’re so clever and classless and free
But you’re still fucking peasants as far as I can see
How did the men and elves and dwarves and hobbits defeat Sauron?
By enduring and keeping to hope until Sauron’s own device led to his downfall.
Nineteen Eighty-Four was a tragedy. Orwell could not actually see a way out from the world of Big Brother because he believed that ultimately Big Brother controlled what was true and untrue.
I believe that if Orwell had lived longer he would become Christian. That was the only way out of the dilemma he found himself in. He knew that there was a source of the Truth, and he knew that it did not lay in the individual experience of reality (Winston Smith) nor was it created by power (Big Brother).
Sadly conservatives seem to think that a 5-6 vote majority in the House of Representatives will somehow turn this all around – talk about delusional.
As long as they get to keep their stuff, they’re pacified. All those “muh gunz” Patriots™ stood by meekly as the country was put on lock down (a term heretofore used exclusively in prisons), and…nothing. Their kids are being openly groomed for degenerates to use for sex, and…nothing. The government and the media are openly prosecuting a campaign of White genocide while negroes run fucking amok, and…nothing. The Southern border is a free flowing highway uneducated, unskilled, 80IQ South American Indians are traveling to the federal tit, and…nothing
It’s pathetic.
Here it is, right under our noses:
‘The CIA’s role in Kennedy’s assassination remains one of the great unsolved mysteries of American history.‘
Just vote harder, Patriots™…and enjoy that cheap gasoline.
For my part, the key issue with our government is the question of what we do with those who use government influence to influence the political process. Ideally, we’d be talking firing and even prosecution, but our civil service protections seem to have resulted in a workforce that is politically biased (bureaucrats tend to favor bigger government) and believes they are untouchable.
It’s going to take a fair amount of work to back this one up.
That’s right MP, the only solution is to believe that only if voted harder!..
Organized, violent resistance by individuals is exactly what the current system is designed to counter. The repartee to “vote harder!” is “go get ’em, Braveheart!”
You will recall that William lost and suffered a horrific, humiliating death at the hands of his enemy.
I like winners.
UMMP, William Wallace trusted his elites. He counted on their support. That’s not the case in the US, now, or ever again.
The US military hasn’t won a protracted military engagement for almost 80 years. And only then, because the enemy was fighting a two front war, and because they had a weapon unknown to the enemy.
We’ve been whipped not once, but twice by guerilla armies, armed with obsolete weaponry and no armour or effective air cover.
They wouldn’t be able to use air power against opponents in US cities. The muzzies have proved makeshift explosive devices are highly effective against motorized units, including armour.
Now toss in some contingent, perhaps even 1/3, of units that would switch sides and bring high tech weapons and know how with them.
All in all, its not a recipe for a successful operation.
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And the political elite, left and right, know all that.
They’ve pushed us very far, very fast. Perhaps the upcoming economic disaster will be a bridge too far, even for Joe Lunchbucket, who gets his truck repossessed.
Elon Musk dumped another batch of bad news on the feds. It implicates the DOD in nefarious shit. The degenerates have stopped with their “nothing burger” deflections.
Everyone can see our government is out of control.
I can not tell you loathesome I find the “Oswald did not act alone” meme.
There is a thing I call the “assumed causation” logical fallacy. it goes like this: “If A, and IF B, And IF C, and IF D, and IF E, THEN == True!”
The conspiracy theorist tries to make each “IF” statement == True, and if you give them this, then F must equal True.
The Dan Brown “Catholic conspiracy” novels used this technique.
So does The Intercept article on the connection between Oswald and the CIA. The logical chain looks silly if you express it clearly. “IF Oswald had ever had an association with the CIA and IF the CIA wanted to assassinate Kennedy THEN the CIA used Oswald to assassinate Kennedy.
I have an uncle who was in the Air Force intelligence in Turkey during the cold war. When he left the Air Force in the early 60s he was approached by a guy that my uncle assumed was CIA with a job offer. But he would have to stay in Turkey.
Hmmm . . . sounds suspicious, doesn’t it?
Uncle turned the guy down because he & new wife wanted to settle down in the Midwest and start a family. My uncle was not a spy. He lived on an Air Force base and his job was to insure the integrity of the data of the health metrics of American astronauts when their space capsule passed over Turkey.
The CIA does a lot of weird things. The CIA casts a very wide net. If you were ever in the Peace Corps, probably some American you talked to overseas was CIA seeing what they could use you for. For example, back in the 60s and 70s, there were Peace Corps volunteers who were given piece work writing articles on local stories for publication in “business magazines” that never existed. Presumably the editors they sent their stories to were CIA (or maybe KGB? Who knows?).
It’s an awful long reach to go from “Oswald may have been contacted and even employed by a CIA guy in some fashion” to “The CIA controlled Oswald and used him to assassinate JFK.”
This is the American CIA we are talking about, and they are not usually confused with a spider of a masterful spy organization, spinning its web across continents and assassinating heads of state at will.
Maybe I have prejudices of my own, but the usual figure that jumps to my mind when I think of “CIA” is an ivy leaguer with a a degree in diplomacy & some foreign language skills, and some good buddy contacts of similar social status in other nations. They contract out the dirty work to people who look and behave more like Dave Bautista (or a younger Jesse Ventura) than Jack Lord.
Blade, I think the best point of resistance to the Feds isn’t individual resistance, but political resistance at the state level. Governors have a better chance of fighting the feds than individuals.
If the whole shitball goes down we are in for a new dark age.
You don’t think we’ve gone dark already, UMMP?
You have an exceptional tolerance for psy-ops…the CIA can use a fellow like you.
“the CIA can use a fellow like you.”
How do you know that they aren’t 😂
Tucker Carlson claims to have spoken with a man who has seen all the unredacted docs that have been released, and those that are still being withheld. That man says there is a document that says the CIA was involved, in plain English.
I have seen enough verified skeezy shit from the feds to make a reasoned choice to believe that.
Out government is completely beyond control, and has been since FDR wrote the book on how to legitimize totalitarianism. From time to time, we the citizens have not been the direct target of it’s machinations, but we’re never meant to be the beneficiaries.
Fighting back at the state level is a great idea, unless you live in one of the 16 states that are under the complete control of our enemies.
(Looking at you, MN)
You forget, the squeeze that was exerted on people, and small businesses during the Dempanic came from the state capitals, not DC.
Oddly enough, I’ve just realized those shitty little maskies *do* have a use. If you were forced to wear one in public, and you have not replaced everyone in power at the time, you are in bad shape.
If the latest elections added allies to the mask enforcers, you’re completely fucked.
UMMP
Having been in SE Asia in the early 70s, I saw a lot of sheet that was known, at least to the locals, to be CIA. Regarding their use of patsies for wet work, I found it awfully convenient that Jack Ruby killed Oswald on his way to court (or did he?). I maintain that it was to prevent him from talking. Along those same lines, there is still a lot of reasonable evidence that Sirhan Sirhan didn’t act alone in killing RFK. I also read something a few years back that he had no memory of even going into that hotel, nor did he recall any reason he had to kill him. There were similar confessions from Jared Loughner for shooting several people in Tucson, including Gabby Giffords. Here was supposedly a broke, medical student, but had about $6k worth or weapons and ammo in his apartment? How and where did he get the money to attain that. I could go on. The Mandalay Bay shooting in Vegas was never wrapped up and what had been released, is suspect, including the mysterious deaths of three witnesses that told investigators that they saw at least two shooters.
Blade;
One has to wonder about Obama signing a bill while he was President, which essentially allows the media to push propaganda and lie to the masses.
Since Oswald was a known KGB asset (I think there is very little dispute about that), it is only plausible that CIA had their hooks in him. Why else would he be allowed to return and roam around the US freely? The mere fact Oswald was not escorted to jail the moment he stepped off the plane in the US makes CIA complicit – they could have prevented what happened but chose not to.
they could have prevented what happened but chose not to
Evergreen statement with controversial shootings.
“The mere fact Oswald was not escorted to jail the moment he stepped off the plane in the US…”
Exactly. He reported to the US Embassy in Moscow and declared himself a defector. He was clearly doing so at the direction of the CIA.
Evergreen statement with controversial shootings.
Yes, but omission is aiding and abetting to get the desired outcome. Assassination was not a random act and if CIA wanted to prevent it, they could have. I do not think there is a logical reason to dispute that Oswald’s KGB connection was known to CIA. And is in the case of Laptop from Hell, it is not incomprehensible that not only did CIA try to not to prevent the assassination by omission, but was actively “facilitating” it, by allowing Oswald to get his hands on a rifle, for example.
Yes, but omission is aiding and abetting to get the desired outcome.
No argument from me on that , JPA.
The problem is that doesn’t really get you anywhere. If Oswald’s potential for becoming a presidential assassination was recognized by the CIA & ignored or even encouraged, who exactly did this? Did it come from the top, the middle, or the bottom? Was it just the people who watched Oswald or was the entire CIA behind this? Is there even any way to ever find out? After all, if any CIA person or documentation appeared, it could always be yet another CIA psyops.
And if it was true that Oswald was being given the run by the CIA to kill Kennedy, Oswald himself likely never knew it. You couldn’t take the chance that this loopy guy would get apprehended beforehand and confess to the cops that his CIA friend had told him where to get the rifle and that the Schoolbook depository would be a great place to get off a clean shot.
And once you’ve gone that far down the rabbit hole, how certain can you be that it was really Kennedy in the presidential limo that day?
I have the same problem with the “Obama was born in Kenya” conspiracy theory. If true, how do we know that the baby brought back from Kenya by Obama’s mother is the same person named “Barack Obama” that would one day become president?
MP, your examples do not hold water. They use the same logic as trollbots who insist that since there are no convictions, there was no election fraud. And yes I agree, playing what-if games do not get us anywhere. But if we do not play these games, if we do not question the authoritee!, then are you suggesting we should believe hook line and sinker everything and anything Big Brother tells us? I do not understand what it is you are trying to say. Do you, yourself, believe Oswald acted absolutely alone without any interference/omission from the alphabet soup agencies on both sides of the ocean? We will likely never know exactly what happened, but the Lone Wolf scenario is the least likely and more specifically because that IS the official Big Brother version.
JPA, I think that it is all lies, to a small or larger extent, and the question is whether or not paying lip service to believing the lies are useful for what we are trying to accomplish, which is our own happiness, which lies in reconciliation with God.
Maybe this is a religious thing, I am Lutheran, so only God is absolute truth. I know that there is a Jewish tradition of fighting for God’s justice to make the Earth a better place, and that is not really a thing in Lutheranism. To fight for justice on Earth implies that my meager self understands the Truth well enough to apply it universally and that is not the case. The only Truth I will ever know is God.
JPA, I think that it is all lies, to a small or larger extent
Again, you are speaking in riddles. Which are lies? That Oswald was a KGB agent and that CIA knew about it and let him conduct, by omission, an assassination? My questions are corporeal, nothing to do with divine. Why and how asking questions “why” and “how” is a “lip service”? I did not put forth any conspiracy theories, just stated facts and asked questions that I had not found any answers to in the official discourse. Just because empirical facts were never acknowledged by Big Brother does not make them less factual, no?