11 thoughts on “I Heard It In The NARN

  1. Well, to avoid any carping about “hijacking threads” (which is after all, just an excuse to limit the discussion to the avenue that you like, rather than dealing with facts you don’t) maybe you can talk about this, since it ALSO happened yesterday.

    Yesterday, Trump said. “Do you throw out the results of the election and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you HOLD A NEW ELECTION?” (his caps not mine.)

    Think about that, and then, think about it again.

    He cannot prove in court, meaning in front of a fair and impartial panel of any form, set of judges, including his appointees, a jury (were it ever to get to that) or otherwise, that he was cheated out of winning in 2020. He can’t even prove there were any significant number of cases of fraud. The handful of corrections in Maricopa county were within the range of human caused error and in fact went against him. They didn’t prove fraud, much less that he was defrauded. That’s the case across the country in review after review, from Georgia to Pennsylvania. No material (meaning nothing like hundreds, let alone thousands, of cases in ANY state). A handful of cases, and ironically, more by people seeking to help the GOP than hurt as the 2018 election in North Carolina showed has become more common.

    So, no fraud, no cheating, but because you don’t like the results, throw out the votes of 155 MILLION Americans. And well, if not that, hold a new election. As if that could be trusted to be done. If it were done as the last one was, as tightly watched as it was, then doubtless the anger of the American people at Trump would result in his repudiation. He would lose, and lose badly almost certainly. If he won, it wouldn’t be trusted by the other side, nor very likely should it be. In the very likely event he lost, he’d demand another, because accepting the results of an election he loses isn’t in Trump, he’s too fragile, too much of a petulant child. He had his MANY chances in court, he couldn’t even bring enough evidence to get past a preliminary hearing because he DIDN’T HAVE ANY.

    Entertaining the idea of another election is profoundly wrong anyway. The people voted, like Brexit in England, if the vote were taken again, even the following day, it might have failed, so might have Trump’s victory 2016. There were millions (to hear tell) of people who didn’t vote in 2016 who were (rightly) aghast at Trump’s victory. They knew he was a clown but they stayed home. But you don’t get “do-overs”, not unless you can prove the election was grossly improperly done. The election, whatever it’s outcome, stands. It stood in 2016 when tens of millions of Americans likely would have loved a do-over, but unlike the petulant, peevish Trump and his petulant, peevish and violent followers, the Democrats were the better people, they accepted the results and said, “We’ll get you next time.” And so they went out and outworked the GOP, and they did. That’s being an American, not invalidating an election and/or choosing to re-vote and re-vote until you get what you want. That’s the act of a petty tyrant (who coincidentally ALSO “wondered” if we should throw out the constitution in that same “truth”) and is the act only supported by insipid boot-looking sycophants not people who believe in equality or democracy.

  2. I voted for him twice, but am done with him too. I seriously hope Desantis or others can now carry the torch. Trump was very effective president, but he says nutso things at times and drives me away.

  3. Way to go DT! Help validate the January 6 paranoia. Except now it no longer seems like paranoia.

  4. Bwwwwaaaaahahahaha! Paddywhacker talking about censorship of opposing views?! You f-big hypocrite!

  5. Let me see if I understand this all correctly.

    Elon and Taibbi release a load of Twitter files that showed – proved – the corruption of the Democrat party and the FBI’s involvement in political censorship. FBI Director Christopher Wray actually took pride in these efforts

    The p-boy shows up to frame the release of those files as a problem for Trump because he probably over-reacted to it all.

    And the reactions to p-boy’s framing are exactly as he would want. There is no history during the four years Trump was president of acting precipitously in regards to the Constitution, but plenty, even before the release of the Twitter files, of the Democrats working to create a corporatist (aka facist) oligarchy with a two class society (think SBF and FTX). Now we get to see just a little more behind the curtain, and all the good little conservatives and Republicans and RINOs are shocked and disgusted and appalled that Trump may have reacted badly. Nothing, nichts, nada about the continual progress towards a corporatist oligarchy.

    May your chains set lightly upon you.

    PS turns out too that the previous Twitter admin was probably covering up child exploitation sites too. But Trump said something.

  6. pb;dr

    Re the playlist – definitely check out Anna Taylor Joy’s downbeat cover of “Downtown” from the movie “Last Night in Soho”. You’ll be ensorcelled.

  7. @jdm – Yeah, it’s slow and very moody, but I like the reworking, plus it fits the movie. Of course, I’d think Anya is great even if she were reading an Emery or PB post to me.

  8. Since you can’t seem to deal with topics not of your choosing in any other thread, let’s rehash this one, shall we?

    I’m old enough to remember…
    In May 2020 Mitch Berg said the he bet that in the end Texas would have fewer COVID deaths than NY state by election day. Now, his sophistry was called out because of course, Texas started down the path much later than did NY, and NY was the epicenter of initial treatments, including failed ones, so Texas (among other places) would get the benefit of NY’s trials and tribulations. Jump in bootlicker #1 (Joe Doakes as I recall) who pointed out the startlingly obvious that Texas is 50% bigger than NY so it’s not fair anyway.

    Now, the commenter on the other side said, “OK, let’s take Florida then, it’s a close competitor to NY, both have significant elderly populations, both have about 20M people…” and then that commenter proceeded to periodically update everyone. He also pointed out that to be fair to NY, you really should discount much of the figures from March and April 2020 because that was when, mostly, no one knew what the hell to do and they were generally struggling to get equipment and PPE. More importantly, though, they simply were overwhelmed, far more than TX or FL were, both states had time to prep, more or less successfully.

    But let’s look at the FL /NY picture now, two years and a little bit, later.

    FL, total cases 7.4M, total deaths 83k
    NY total cases 3.04M, total deaths 41k – that does NOT exclude March-April 2020, if we did, it’d be 2.8M cases and 21k deaths. But I’ll just go with raw numbers here.

    What can we glean from this is.
    1. Wearing masks, which Florida’s Desantis eschewed/eschewes, works, so does social distancing.
    2. Few cases=fewer deaths
    3 Florida’s health care system is a wreck – that’s a rather continuous story coming from the state anecdotally at least

    Now, when MBerg made the point, in some sort of ill-conceived us vs. them/ red vs. blue comparison, he looked insensitive and callous. We’re all Americans, and whether TX or FL do better or worse than NY only matters in that maybe we can learn something from their experience, it’s not some sort of statement of superiority of one political approach or another. Yet, that was the clear message from MBerg in May 2020 (please try to deny that Mitch, you make the same claim every day). Yet, what facts bore out is that in fact, NY had far better overall outcomes, FAR, even including that they were the Petri dish of treatment experimentation in March that helped save lives in Florida in September.

    Last thing Mitch, I started this thread here on Trump and his call to suspend or obviate the Constitution. If you want to bitch about thread-jacking, at least have the class to not invent fake conversations with your favorite straw-person and stay on point HERE. it’s the least you could do.

    Dr. and Cosmic, yes, as Americans, not GOP, not Dem, as Americans, it’s time to put his hatred in the rear view mirror, he can’t accept losing.

    Boss, whenever were you censored by me? Twitter banned Trump, it’s a private company, they do whatever the hell they want. JDM, you know Trump’s campaign sent names to Twitter too, right? You know the Biden campaign wasn’t the government, right? Dumbass.

    Pig Boy, I stopped writing that blog in 2014 (from what I recall), do you want to try to get back to the present decade? I don’t have corporations paying for a propaganda-laced radio show on which BS is spewed and from which I can direct people to a BS blog.

  9. Oh, and by the way, on the ‘rigged game’ Mitch tried to engender with his specious comparison of Texas to NY by the 2020 election date (and I say rigged because Mitch knew full well NY had been in the throws longer)…. here are current stats for TX

    Cases 7.99M, Deaths 92k, adjusting that to be relevant to population size (i.e. per capita), take those times about .66, so 5M cases and about 62k deaths. WAY more than NY, and again, NY had to deal with the illness in difficult stages and generally has an older population.

    Masks worked, saying you needed “freedom” from them didn’t and it wasn’t about your choice to get sick or not, it was about choosing to try to protect others FROM you if you were sick and didn’t know.
    Social distancing worked
    Shutdowns worked too
    To the tune of something around 10k lives which should have been saved in TX and perhaps another 30k-40k lives in FL. The national estimate is that our poor response cost this country 100,000 lives.

    Red policy or blue, it failed when we failed to take this seriously enough and instead played politics (with masking, with vaccinations).

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