The Star Tribune is complaining about “misinformation” today. You may hit a paywall (I did), and i”m not giving them any money.
Sort of unrelated aside: today is the fifteenth anniversary of the collapse of the 35W River Bridge, in downtown Minneapolis.
An event which prompted the most obscene tidal wave of concentrated disinformation I can recall – mostly, former Strib “Senior Columnist”, the late Nick Coleman, who beclowned his newspaper in print and on national TV by blaming Governor Pawlenty, and tax-accountability groups like David Strom’s “Taxpayers League”, for the collapse before the last of the bodies were cold. It was the most craven display of “journalistic” abuse on the local level, ever.
In the intervening years, the Strib’s fortunes have fared about as well as the late bridge. The Strib managed to do some good reporting on the story – but along with the photos and the survivor interviews, it’s hard to separate that story from Nick Coleman on MSNBC, bellowing bug-eyed at the camera about Tim Pawlenty’s responsibilty…
…for an engineering mistake made in 1967.
The bridge is back. The Strib is still here, technically. And “misinformation” has become an industry that’d boggle Nick Coleman’s mind from the great beyond.
I didn’t hit the pay wall but I don’t know if I would again without removing all strib cookies
Anyway, the article was about misinformation, but it was more about how shocked and appalled government (election) officials are that people, mere people who aren’t experts in anything, are concerned about their votes. The usual litany of logical fallacies include argument from authority, denigration by assertion of sources (like “2000 Mules”), and the ever reliable argument from incredulity.
As for the bridge, I understand the part of about an engineering failure, but wasn’t there also a failure to keep an eye on that joint over the years?
You left out the coverup of the University of Minnesota’s role. The U of M was paid large amounts of money over the years to recheck those calculations. It was their direct failure to perform the task they took money for (also known as fraud) that led to the collapse.
I say “coverup” because beside no press reporting of their involvement, the legislature quietly slipped a provision in the money for victims that protected the U of M from any liability over their fault.
Not to besmirch the legacy of Coleman, but while it might boggle his mind, I doubt he’d have any reservations about participating in the level that misinformation has achieved.
The strib gives you access to 5 free articles a month, they track this through cookies. I have several browsers(Brave, Opera, Firefox, Edge, Waterfox) that are normally only used for one or two sites, but whenever I hit my 5 for the month on one browser I switch to another browser and usually get access. I don’t read that much of the Strib to began with so I don’t exhaust my “free” reads. This also works for other sites that offer limited “free”access.
I don’t know any Democrat who believes Russia “changed” the election result in 2016. It’s clear that Russia worked to influence voters in 2016 through a social media disinformation campaign, and it’s hard to argue that their efforts did not succeed on the margins. After all, if social media campaigns don’t influence voters, why do candidates spend so much money on such campaigns? But, while foreign efforts to influence voters are a concern, they are not remotely equivalent to the disproven and debunked election fraud claims made by Trump and his followers such as counting fake ballots and switching votes in electronic voting machines. The conflation of Democratic charges regarding the 2016 election with Trump’s disproven fraud allegations about the 2020 election is a textbook example of defective attempts to avoid the appearance of bias by making tendentious comparisons.
Every day I’m reminded anew that the not-so-bright and easily swayed among us wield significant power and influence.
“Every day I’m reminded anew that the not-so-bright and easily swayed among us wield significant power and influence.”
That’s a horrible thing to say about Maxine Waters, AOC, Ilhan Omar, Kamala Harris, Joe Biden, Stacy Abrams, Jerry Nadler, etc.
The main problem with Stop the Steal is that its proponents want to throw out votes that aren’t theirs. This makes it very hard to respect their difference of opinion.
Perhaps Trump supporters believed Trump’s lies because Trump had a conservative media apparatus, i.e. OAN, Fox News, Newsmax, validating Trump’s lies and spreading conspiracy theories. Interesting MBerg doesn’t mention any of those entities when discussing his long list of supposed media failures.
^^How’s that tinfoil hat? Nice and tight?
Not as stylish as that tumor growing out from your skull.
I didn’t make it to that story. My attention was hijacked by the coverage of a law being pushed in Minnesota, which makes nappy hair legal for black women. Evidently Mogadishu BArbie is pushing for a similar fed law.
I’m sure that is good news for all those East Indian girls who’s hair is cut off, sold and tied on to some black woman’s head, only to end up getting torn off during a fight at Popeye’s over dat sauce.
The degenerates should just go ahead and admit they stole the election. Everyone knows they did it. Nothing of any consequence would come of it and the conservatives would immediately forgive them, and stop trying to catch them at it.
In the whole Stop the Steal thing, I have yet to hear an explanation as to why all the down-ballot winners in the GOP got in, yet Trump did not. Some gnomes in a back room changing paper ballots?
Evidence has always been superseded by beliefs in these crowds.
Biden vs. Trump: Guess Who Wins Rematch?
Monday, August 01, 2022
A majority of voters have an unfavorable opinion of President Joe Biden, who would lose a rematch election with former President Donald Trump.
A new national telephone and online survey by Rasmussen Reports finds that, if the election were held today, just 40% of Likely U.S. Voters would vote to reelect Biden, while 46% would vote for Trump. Another 10% would choose some other candidate in a Biden-Trump rematch. These findings are unchanged since January.
Fifty-three percent (53%) of voters have an unfavorable impression of Biden, including 43% who have a Very Unfavorable view of the president. Forty-one percent (43%) view Biden favorably, including 22% who have a Very Favorable impression of him.
41% like what Biden’s handlers are doing. Amazing.
Too bad their hero is unlikely to finish out his first term, less get re-elected. As PEdo’s cognitive function continues to deteriorate, his daily drug cocktail is failing to keep him even remotely coherent. I see an Article 25 headed his way sometime after the mid-terms.
Well that’s new. Akismet stripped off my hypertext.
It would be a wonderful bit of irony if Biden got 25th’d by his cabinet & the military had to drag him out of the White House.
This, of course, is what the democrats hoped would be Trump’s fate.
It’s been awhile since I saw a good frog-marching.
UMMP, it occurs to me that this supposed bat flu relapse could be an excuse to keep Pedo away from the media.
His past couple appearances have been really bad.
time to rewatch “bananas”
I’m not seeing much vigorous defense of Biden’s mental function. I did see one guy claim that Biden’s slurred speech was caused by a childhood stutter, but slurring speech isn’t a stutter and Biden wasn’t slurring his speech ten years ago.
Biden is very old and he has been afflicted twice with a disease known to be especially deadly to people his age. Yet we don’t have Biden’s doctor taking questions from the press, instead Biden’s press secretary reads a summary of what she says is a statement from Biden’s doctor. Very odd. Why don’t they want Biden’s doc talking to the press?
I knew Tim Pawlenty from when our daughters played together at Northern Lights Volleyball.
Nice guy — would have loved to have him for a neighbor. Sadly, Tim would never make it out of the primaries with the current iteration of the MN GOP.
^ Ex-, former- and dead Republicans are always wonderful, you duplicitous prick.
Yea, Pedo Pete must be gone, mentally, because suddenly, he’s authorized “patching” the wall in Arizona. Of course, his little puppet throws in that they are “just cleaning up the mess left by the last administration”. Funny! There probably was a mess left of the building materials that were sitting there after Pedo Pete stopped construction.
Pete is doing everything that the DemoCommies said he would do, but didn’t. Classic Alinsky, Hitler and Stalin m o.
Emery is making foolish comments again. The Dem bigwigs chose “moderate” Joe Biden because they were terrified that the dem primary voters would have gone for Bernie.
This is not your father’s democrat party. They literally believe that men can get pregnant and give birth, and women can have penises.
Hey Emery…..just one simple question regarding the 2020 election…..
Who ordered the vote count be stopped? I was up, watching a variety of news sources in the early am, and the commentators were also all confused as to why the count was stopped. No seems to want to address this question. Even now.
Why?
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rAT is scouring the cesspools of the internet for an answer, Starbuck…the fact that he can’t find something to plagiarize says everything.
They stopped the count because it was time to implement the plan.
Here’s a no-spin reminder of where things stood when swing states suddenly, and simultaneously stopped counting ballots:
https://www.pacificpundit.com/2020/11/09/when-the-vote-counting-stopped-on-election-night-these-were-the-numbers/
And here is the weak explaination from Facebook’s leading “factchecker”, Politifact.
“But none of the states stopped counting votes altogether — and there’s no evidence they tried to swing the results in favor of Biden.”
“Altogether”…get that? Sure they stopped counting, but not completely.
Of course, when counting resumed, the counts miraculously and again, simultaneously head North for PEdo Joe.
https://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Wisc-Mich.jpg
The election was stolen in plain sight. The degenerates knew their media corps would take up the fight in the morning.
Sometimes, a comment is worthless without a couple links to warrant an argument. The fact that it automatically puts a comment into moderation is really BS.
^^ This isn’t really about the last election, its about creating doubt about our election system, undermining public confidence in the system.. The people who have radicalized these folks want to be able to say “Look at all the audits of the election — something was going on”. They want to build doubt in the publics mind about the validity of our election system so that next time they challenge it, call it illegitiimate more will believe, or if they attempt a coup to take power, more will be willing to support it.
The fact that the audits found nothing fraudulent occurred is irrelevant to the goals of those trying to undermine democracracy, the mere fact the audits occurred is what they will claim is evidence of voting irregularity — they are trying to create the suggestion of irregularity in peoples minds.
It will take many good people willing to refuse to participate in this type of activity, as well as many good people participating in activities at the polls during our next elections, to assure that our future elections are not thrown into serious doubt by this anti-democratic movement.
@swift — the irony is MBerg is a user experience guy…
@ Starbuck
Fact check: List of partly false statements on the 2020 election
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-list-statements-2020-electi-idUSKBN27Q2NI
The Orwellian Mind of Emery
Found nothing?
Absolutely nothing?
Not a single instance of fraud?
Are you suggesting that the election was a 100% God-Like pure without even the slightest stain of sin?
Well…..maybe there might have been a case or two, but in the scheme of things that is really nothing. A single instance or two does not make a difference….since the audit wasn’t fine-grained enough to catch such a low count.
Oh, so you mean an instance or two does not taint the whole?
Kind of like the undetected instance or two of concealed sidearms in the crowd on Jan 6. does not constitute an “armed insurrection”.
Funny how sometimes language works like a ratchet: only turning in one direction.
^^ Any thoughts regarding Trump’s fake electors scheme?
Greg, the “we found NOTHING!!!” meme comes from the same architects of the “Trump lost every court case”. Both are a combination of outright bullshit and weasel parsing.
There have been several instances of fraudulent activity found, and in Wisconsin, the Supreme Court ruled the board of elections outright broke the law, which should invalidate the election. Trump didn’t lose any court fights; the courts refused to hear the evidence. None of them wanted to be put into a place where they might have to enforce a finding that would throw the election out.
The degenerates stole the election; everyone knows this.
ps: How about getting my earlier comment out of the Gulag, Mr. Berg?
Starbuck, the comment I made which is in the gulag addresses your question in detail, but for now, notice how rAT Emery jumped over the trap to get at the cheese from the other side.
You’ll never get an honest answer out of rAT, because A) He lacks the cognitive tools to address anything intelligently; B) He’s here to troll, not to discuss. and C) He’s a well proven liar.
Ya gotta admire the brass from the degenerate media. The theft was brazen and well documented, but the degenerate media never flinched.
Their answer to everything is “You have no evidence”; when evidence is produced, they’ll squeak “That’s been debunked by ‘EXPERTS’! (never mind who they are). And when all else fails, they’ll go to “Shut up Trumptard!!!”
This works with the low IQ garbage people the degenerates count as their base.
“Trump’s claims were completely bogus and silly and usually based on complete misinformation.”
“I said: Did anyone point out to you [Trump] … you actually did better in Detroit than you did last time?” I mean, there’s no indication of fraud in Detroit … and I told him that the stuff that his people were shoveling out to the public was bullshit — I mean, that the claims of fraud were bullshit. And, you know, he was indignant about that. I thought, If he really believes this stuff, he has lost contact, he’s become detached from reality” ~ AG Bill Barr
https://apnews.com/article/barr-no-widespread-election-fraud-b1f1488796c9a98c4b1a9061a6c7f49d
^^*rAT squeaks in ecstasy, his beady eyes roll back into his head as he furiously pleasures himself, alone.*
Between this and that outright lie about ‘Benghazi Video” crap, I’m starting to wonder if I need to start recording these things because they sure do seem to vanish into thin air.
So, one more time for the cheap seats in the back (that’s you, Edog), WHO gave the order to stop counting the votes?!? And…..in states where Trump was leading, and not just by a few % points, either. 6-7% over Biden when the counting stopped.
So……WHO? Who has that kind of influence? Not just in one state, but across the US……..