The lions lie down with the lambs.
Bill Maher is the grownup in the room:
On Friday, HBO’s Bill Maher made clear the Uvalde school attacker’s advantage was not the type of gun he used but the amount of time he had to use it.
Maher said, “I mean, this kid was in the room for 40 minutes before anybody came in. It wouldn’t have mattered what kind of gun he had. Any kind of gun could do any amount of damage in that time.”
Grandpa’s break action double barrel shotgun, A colt single action revolver, or with an average of one shot every two minutes, a muzzle loading musket would’ve all had the same affect as the shooters AR15.
I can still feel the writer’s cramp I got filling out the paperwork for my 22LR pistol.
But when I went to buy my black powder .44: nothing, nada, zip.
Apparently, no one was ever killed with an 1860 model revolver. One has to suppose they were only used for hunting.
The prize for the gun grabbers is a nationwide red flag law.
A red flag law allows the government to seize a person’s firearms without a hearing and with no crime being committed.
Greg:
Yup! Three years ago, I bought a .54 caliber Hawken rifle kit. Paid for it and walked out of the store. No background check; nothing. I also bought all of the ammo, etc.
Greg, boss, are you suggesting we should have same bg checks for black powder rifles and revolvers as for scary centerpoints and rimfire?
MP +1 all the way. Red flag law is license to disarm and confiscate without due process.
jpa,
Not at all. I was glad that I didn’t have to fill out all of the paperwork that we have to fill out for more current guns. I read the Minnesota gun laws might have been violated by those purchases, but couldn’t find any.
A modest proposal for the people proposing massive scale hardening of schools and Walmarts and hospitals and whatever. OK. Let’s do it. And pay for it with a sales tax on firearms.
The public assumes more costs than just that. Our health, life, and property insurance are higher because of gun deaths and injuries, our taxes are higher for all those reasons.
You want every school in America to be a single-door fortress with an army to keep it safe? OK. That’s dumb. But if the externalities associated with you cosplaying a soldier in your garden is gonna be tens of billions of dollars, then why is that cost subsidized by the state?
You want to play Rambo, pay for all those costs.
^ Mommy, what’s a non sequitur?
The underlying premise of E’s “modest proposal” is that guns force crazy people to shoot up schools. No guns, no shootings.
There’s a link missing in the logic chain – the part where we intentionally allow crazy people to roam around looking for children to kill – which has nothing to do with guns.
Could as easily say “media stories about school shootings cause copycats; therefore, tax media to pay to harden schools.”
^ I mean, the alternative is literally asking the state to foot an enormous bill to bail out the externalities of an industry that is serially incapable of avoiding poor risk assessments in choosing which customers to sell to which sounds a lot like advocating for soci@lism
FWIW zero chance it would ever happen, but just an observation that the distraction proposals are bluffs that hide a massive externality and the right thing to do is to call them on it by publicly accepting the proposal but with the massive externality reinternalized.
Imagine pretending salespersons have an obligation to pick and choose who they want to sell to in this day and age.
Let’s look at that ‘externalities’ issue.
The vast majority of shootings in this country are not White men shooting up schools, they’re Black men shooting each other. The medical, social, legal costs of their actions are stupendously greater than school shootings. And they’re all caused by merchants of death selling guns and ammo to Blacks.
Obviously, the solution is for merchants to refuse to sell guns and ammo to Blacks, right, E? That’s what you want, isn’t it? So why not just come right out and say it.
an industry that is serially incapable of avoiding poor risk assessments in choosing which customers to sell to which sounds a lot like advocating for soci@lism
Emery now in favor of allowing gun sellers to discriminate based on race.
For that matter, the externalities from paying people to be on welfare (of all races – Black, white, all of them) foists enormous social, economic and legal costs on society. Ban welfare?
The externalities from illegal immigration piles up even more social, economic and legal costs. Ban illegal immigration?
You might be onto something here, E. Roll the clock back to 1963. I like it.
The DemoCommies prove that they care nothing about kids. They are just cannon fodder for them to gain more power. Pedo Joe is withholding school lunch funds is schools don’t embrace the LGBTQXYXLMNOP agenda. But, DemoCommies are the defender of the working class, huh?
Let’s take that money that the gubmint gives to Planned Murderhood and use that to harden the schools. We can also divert money that the corrupt teacher’s unions pocket, to do that.
Once again, I point out Emery’s stupidity. His heroes have armed security 24/7, they want to give weapons and money to buy weapons to a corrupt Ukrainian government to defend their borders, leaving our own borders wide open allowing weapons, drugs and criminals to cross. He’s even sending formula down there, sacrificing the babies and children of citizens.
Move back to Canada, Emery. We don’t need worthless illegals from countries that have their own issues living here and criticizing ours. Jerk ass!
Forgot about all of the guns, tanks, helicopters, rockets and related ammo that Pedo Joe left for the Taliban. Freaking DemoCommies are the last people that should be lecturing anyone on guns.
The Student Co-op building on University Avenue, immediately next to the U of M campus, had to be boarded up and everyone evicted because it was literally becoming a battleground with shootings and knifings. The U says that no one living there was a student or university employee. In a video I watched from last week, numerous people were shooting and running outside this building and “fraternity row”. I counted at least 23 gunshots, with at least two calibers, and everyone on screen was incredibly non-diverse (one race).
Strange that eviction moratoriums, or the usual drawn out eviction process, weren’t followed. The place was boarded up in about a week. I guess it depends on who’s lifestyle is being threatened.
@ JD — Everyone who was proposing hardening schools as a way of performatively pretending to care about the issue through deflection will conspicuously now oppose their prior proposals. I don’t think it’d pass. But it would expose the offer as a scam
Lest we forget, Pedo Joe’s sleazeball, crack addled son, bought a gun illegally, so, in between sex sessions with his sister in law, she dropped it in a dumpster, that happened to be across the street from a school. Secret Service gets dispatched to retrieve it, because sister in law wouldn’t do it, and funny! The gun was gone. Yet, nothing happens to crack boy and Pedo Joe keeps lecturing us peons about gun control.
@E – I support hardening the schools, but oppose your method of paying for it.
Not just guns, I oppose taxing law-abiding citizens engaged in ordinary activities to pay for the costs arising from abuse caused by other people:
Shouldn’t tax all newspapers to pay slander victims.
Shouldn’t tax all electric vehicles to pay coal miners’ unemployment.
Shouldn’t tax all voters to pay for investigations into election fraud.
Shouldn’t tax all campfires to pay for forest fire efforts.
Shouldn’t tax all hikers to pay for helicopter rescue flights.
Shouldn’t tax all churches to compensate abuse victims.
Shouldn’t tax all bridge crossers to pay bridge collapse victims.
Shouldn’t tax all air breathers to pay for air pollution reduction measures.
Your proposal is not a serious attempt to address the problem of gun violence, it’s an effort to disguise a gun ban under the fig leaf of social economics. Wouldn’t fly in any other field and shouldn’t fly here.
Instead of taxing gun owners for the costs of wrongful use of guns, why not penalize those who use them wrongly by putting them to work on the chain gang? If it costs society a lot to investigate, try, convict, and incarcerate criminals, why not get some of that back? And we just might find that people taught to work while in prison just might be able to do the same when they get out instead of victimizing the rest of us.
I know, weird thought to penalize the guilty rather than the innocent, but time was that this was how it was done.
Lol the single door gaslighting.
One entrance, many doors which open only from the inside. I’m sure you’ve been through hundreds of them in your life, they just don’t fit your narrative.
Our health, life, and property insurance are higher because of gun deaths and injuries, our taxes are higher for all those reasons.
Your health, life, and property insurance are higher because you live in a leftist shithole, led by feckless nitwits that allow blacks to run wild without consequence.
Mine are not, because I don’t. You voted for this, this is what you want. Pay for it.
I’ve got a compromise for leftist degenerates that want to tax firearms, ammunition, impose various fees, require insurance and proficiency testing.
Hell yeah, boss. I’ll go for all that…as long as we also apply it to voting, too. If we’re gonna impose costs and literacy requirements to one Constitutional right, there’s no reason not to do the same for another.
>Non-English speaking person shows up at polling station, asks for ballot.
>Fails to present the requisite licenses and tax stamps. Fails the test and instant background check.
>Sorry Xir, it’s a no-go.
Emery is still pushing his lie about there being twenty-seven (27!) mass killing of students at schools this year?
A dog does return to its vomit.
Some media is reporting Lesko Brandon seeks a 5-shot limit on all pistols.
LOL, my ancient .38 revolver holds 6 cartridges. Will I have to plug one cylinder, like plugging a shotgun for hunting waterfowl?
Figures, JD. Pedo Joe is one cartridge short of a full cylinder.
Joe Doakes, I think that Slow Joe has actually been video’d suggesting limiting magazines to 5 rounds, but, as usual, his dementia word salad is so . . . imprecise . . . nobody knows what he intended to say. Certainly congress won’t act on whatever words bubble out of Biden’s mouth. Normally a president’s chief of staff, in the case of Biden, Ron Klain, would explicate and manage Biden’s message to congress. But Klain seems to be as retarded as Biden himself.
There seems to be a “Biden Effect,” where normally intelligent people with impeccable credentials, get stupid when they get close to Biden.