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One Of The Greatest Deceptions…

…of the current crisis, is the perception that Big Left is pushing, that Covid can kill anyone, at any time.

Now, just so we’re clear: I’ve got a parent in assisted living. I’ve got people in my close circle with immune issues and serious lung issues. I was working from home before it was mandatory, and for good reason. I have people in my life who are vulnerable, and for whom Covid is most assuredly not “just like flu”.

But as to the rest of the population?

The vast majority – as in, super-super-super-majority – of those in NYC with cases serious enough to require hospitalization had more than one comorbid condition:

Health records showed that 94% of the 5,700 patients in the Northwell Health system — which has had the most patients in the country during the pandemic — had at least one disease other than COVID-19, according to the Journal of the American Medical Association. 88% had more than one ailment on top of coronavirus.

It wasn’t even close to close to close:

I saw video last week of a New York hospital celebrating the release of its 750th Covid survivor. And, with all due respect for ordeal and in many cases their age, none of them looked like they’d been pictures of clean health in general Not mocking, and certainly not pretending to be a doctor – but the numbers bear out the observation.

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24 responses to “One Of The Greatest Deceptions…”

  1. Mammuthus Primigenius Avatar
    Mammuthus Primigenius

    The question is “Why doesn’t the government tell us what we need to know, as citizens, to instruct them to respond to the covid-19 crisis as we wish?”
    And the answer is “They are afraid of us.”

  2. Greg Avatar
    Greg

    According to Gov. Walz, you can walk into a Target, Wal-Mart, Home Depot and Lowes to buy a can of paint – but not a independently owned franchise store like Sherman-Williams.

    Does it make sense to close small shops but leave the Big Box Stores open? No, but it makes DFL sense.

    Despite their rhetoric, large corporations are the heart and soul of liberalism, it is where their money comes from, whereas mainstreet businesses are the bedrock of American conservativism.

    Taking this opportunity to destroy the small business owner, the small farmer, the work out of the garage entrepreneur is in the words of Rahm Emanuel, “not wasting a crisis.”

  3. bosshoss429 Avatar
    bosshoss429

    The manager of that pork plant in Worthington, offered to open on a limited basis to euthanize pigs for their farmer partners, but not to finish processing. The moron praised Collin Peterson, Walz and someone from the department of ag for their leadership. I certainly hope that everyone in rural Minnesota finally sees that Peterson and Walz are both working against them, in order to be useful idiots for the party in good standing.

  4. kinlaw Avatar
    kinlaw

    Regarding yesterday’s post about weathercock sven sunderturd, I was telling my roommate “how can we possibly go forward united as a country with so many lefties feeling this way?” He literally hates half the country. Would rather see us all jailed or dead. One nation under God, indivisible? Not for much longer.

  5. Joe Doakes Avatar
    Joe Doakes

    I suspect the regulation arises from the “six feet” rule.

    In a big box store that’s 1,000 feet long, customers can stand six feet apart. Let them in.

    In a smaller store, customers can’t. Keep them out.

    The fact that “six feet” is a number pulled out of someone’s . . . is entirely irrelevant to the regulation.

  6. jdm Avatar
    jdm

    As Instapundit quoted from Facebook: “Corona is starting to feel like the Check Engine light. At first it freaks you out, but after a few weeks you’re like ‘Look, I gotta go to work.’“.

  7. Mammuthus Primigenius Avatar
    Mammuthus Primigenius

    Complicated, but worth reading (with growing horror):
    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/how-cdc-estimates.htm
    The way the CDC estimates the number of flu deaths is going to be hopelessly entangled with deaths due to covid-19. You know why?
    Because it is like the flu. Most of the people who die from the annual flu are older and have comorbidities. The CDC uses modeling to include deaths due to other causes (as listed on death certificates) in the number of flu deaths.
    So, let’s say that you have one number, which is the excess deaths due to ordinary flu + covid-19.
    The methods used by the cdc cannot tell you how many deaths were due to flu and covid-19. A death from pneumonia caused by ordinary flu in the 2018-2019 flu season would be counted as a flu death.
    A death from pneumonia caused by ordinary flu in the 2019-2020 flu season has a significant chance of being misidentified as a death due to covid-19.

  8. Greg Avatar
    Greg

    In a big box store that’s 1,000 feet long, customers can stand six feet apart. Let them in.

    In a smaller store, customers can’t. Keep them out.

    Not sure I follow the logic here.

    There are usually fewer customers in a smaller store and they find what they need and check-out faster. Why would Home Depot in the Eagan be open, while Hardware Hank in Elkton be closed?

  9. This chopper for official use only Avatar
    This chopper for official use only

    I’ve wondered why those pig producers haven’t offered to give live hogs (can’t legally transfer a carcass) to people that know what to do with them. I’d happily buy another freezer, or hell, 200 lbs of salt for a couple feeder hogs.

  10. This chopper for official use only Avatar
    This chopper for official use only

    ^^^^
    Oh, that’s right. 3/4 of the population believes meat is born in plastic wrap. Never mind.

  11. bosshoss429 Avatar
    bosshoss429

    Swiftee;
    Many farmers here in Minnesota are doing that. One farmer sold 3,500 hogs on Monday, but said that he had a lot more that he may have to euthanize. All of the small processors within 100 miles of his farm, were already backlogged.

  12. Mammuthus Primigenius Avatar
    Mammuthus Primigenius

    My deceased wife could handle a pig, Swiftee. She impressed some of the local hunters by showing up at one of their pork give-aways. That little blonde girl from Jersey expertly butchered a hog.

  13. Night Writer Avatar
    Night Writer

    To expand on Mitch’s original post: Scott W. Atlas, MD, Senior Fellow at Stanford University’s Hoover Institution and the former chief of neuroradiology at Stanford University Medical Center, writing in the U.K. Telegraph, and citing the following statistics from New York City, which has 1/3 of all U.S. deaths:

    Rate of death for people 18 to 45 years old is 0.01 percent, or 10 per 100,000.
    Rate of death for people aged 75 and over is 80 times that.
    Rate of death for people under 18 years old is zero per 100,000.

    Of all fatal cases in New York state:
    two-thirds were in patients over 70 years of age;
    more than 95 percent were over 50 years of age;
    about 90 percent of all fatal cases had an underlying illness.
    Of 6,570 confirmed Covid-19 deaths fully investigated for underlying conditions to date, 6,520, or 99.2 percent, had an underlying illness.

    Based on 34,600 hospitalizations in NYC to date:
    Hospitalization rate under 18 years of age is 0.01 percent, or 11 per 100,000 people;
    Ages 18 to 44 years old is 0.1 percent;
    Ages 65 to 74 is 1.7 percent.
    Of 4,103 confirmed Covid-19 patients with symptoms bad enough to seek medical care, Dr. Leora Horwitz of NYU Medical Center concluded “age is far and away the strongest risk factor for hospitalization.”

    Even early WHO reports noted that 80 percent of all cases were mild, and more recent studies show a far more widespread rate of infection and lower rate of serious illness.

  14. Greg Avatar
    Greg

    Night Writer, I saw that at The Hill.

    We should be opening ALL restaurants and bars – except to people over 50 and isolating people over 60.

    NOT SAYING BY GOVERNMENT DECREE, though government always has a role in advice and encouragement.

    The only problem I see in allowing the virus to spread quickly to achieve herd immunity is that most of the workers in long term care facilities are young and young hangs out with young.

    How about a $1,000 a month bonus for nursing home workers if you pass the daily Covid check?

  15. Night Writer Avatar
    Night Writer

    Greg, we can certainly loosen the reins. As I am over 60, I don’t know that I go along with closing restaurants to people over 50 – and I don’t think the restaurants would like that either. Given my age, I personally would be more aware of risk factors and take steps to protect myself – and I would look favorably on restaurants that take that into account.

  16. jdm Avatar
    jdm

    I am over 60 as well. It is interesting to see recommendations that I be proscribed (however well and mildly intended) merely for being of a certain age. Personally, I’ll take my chances, if you don’t mind.

  17. Mammuthus Primigenius Avatar
    Mammuthus Primigenius

    Another data point — the state of Hawaii received a fast new covid-19 test.
    First use was on a person on Maui taken to the hospital with covid-19 symptoms. The quick test was done, the patient was negative, and he was transfered to hospice care. Whew! Bet his family is breathing a sigh of relief!
    https://www.bigislandvideonews.com/2020/05/01/video-covid-19-rapid-testing-kits-distributed-to-counties/

  18. Mammuthus Primigenius Avatar
    Mammuthus Primigenius

    As bad as Hawaii is, I am glad that I do not live in Oregon!
    EXECUTIVE ORDER NO. 20-24

    EXTENDING THE COVID-19 DECLARATION OF EMERGENCY (EXECUTIVE ORDER NO. 20-03) FOR AN ADDITIONAL 60 DAYS, THROUGH JULY 6, 2020

    Executive Order 20-03, declaring a state of emergency due to the COVID-19 outbreak in Oregon, was issued on March 8, 2020, and declared a statewide emergency for 60 days, through May 7, 2020.

    Pursuant to ORS 401.165 and ORS 401.204, I find that the novel infectious coronavirus (COVID-19) continues to threaten public health and safety, and remains a statewide emergency under ORS 401.025. Accordingly, I am extending t​he state of emergency for an additional 60 days, through July 6, 2020. Executive Order 20-03 shall remain in effect through July 6, 2020, unless extended or terminated earlier by the Governor.

    Done at Salem, Oregon, this 1st day of May, 2020.
    https://www.oregon.gov/gov/admin/Pages/eo_20-24.aspx
    Oregon has had little over 100 deaths due to covid.
    That’s four months of rule-by-decree by the governor, unmoderated by the courts or the legislature. It’s good to be king!
    I hope Bill Barr is looking into this.

  19. Night Writer Avatar
    Night Writer

    Good Gawd, the Oregon death toll is doubling EVERY 18 DAYS!

  20. Mitch Berg Avatar
    Mitch Berg

    And even after the “catastrophic surge” in cases in un-shut-down South Dakota, the death toll is 1/3 that in Minnesota.

    Per capita.

  21. Mammuthus Primigenius Avatar
    Mammuthus Primigenius

    Back in mid-March, no one knew what was going to happen with the virus. The models were apocalyptic.
    But now it is early May, and we know the early models were wrong. Way wrong. They estimated the death rate as being at least two more orders of magnitude higher than it has been.
    The lockdown orders were reasonable in mid March. They are not reasonable today. The governors, most of them, are on autopilot. They are not looking at new evidence. The fatal infections are mostly confined to an easily identifiable group. The contagiousness of the disease seems to be venue-dependent. It spreads among people of advanced age, confined with infected people who are symptomatic (not asymptomatic).
    You don’t have to be a genius to see this.
    If you are sick, assume it is covid-19 and self-isolate.
    Use purell. Wear a mask, if that makes you feel better.
    Protect vulnerable populations.
    And remove the stay-at-home orders, fer God’s sake.
    In 1968 the Asian flu killed 100,000 people in the US. Remember that?
    I don’t, either.

  22. Bill C Avatar
    Bill C

    I firmly believe that with 99.5% of Democrats at every level in government, there is also a silent agenda of “push the shutdowns as far out as possible, cause the most economic harm possible, tank the economy as long as possible. Blame the ensuing mess directly on Trump: PRESIDENT TRUMP PRESIDED OVER THE WORST ECONOMIC CALAMITY IN HISTORY. Try to convince the sheeple that it’s directly his fault, not China, not the virus, not the governors who are the ones who are actually enacting the shutdowns.”

    As we’ve seen time and time again, with Democrats, the leftist agenda > money and lives.

  23. This chopper for official use only Avatar
    This chopper for official use only

    Bill, Trump saw that coming, and he rope-a-doped the reprobate Governors by giving them the full authority to enact what ever insanity took their fancy. And a few have really gone off the deep end (*coff* Virginia, California, Oregon, NY, Michigan *coff*).

    All of those states, with the possible exception of the Old Dominian which was destined for a shitstorm next electoral cycle already, are filled with lefty slobs that will take any admission of culpability from their leaders as a personal attack on their utter faith in leftist politics. “Yeah sure, we’re destitute, but lives were saved! We just need to tighten our belts and pay more taxes and we’ll be fine.”

    I hope someone does a little study of how many unborn children were murdered at PP which were all open for business during the bat flu Dempanic.

  24. bikebubba Avatar
    bikebubba

    It strikes me that we’ve missed a golden chance to kill the epidemic through just plain simple good habits. OK, obesity, heart disease, diabetes….folks, you can get that controlled with medications and a walk in many cases. If we’d just put the death rate (estimated) vs. age, BMI, blood pressure, blood glucose/A1C, etc.., then we’d at least have had a fighting chance of dealing with these things halfway well.

    And we’ve got an explanation of why our country is being hit harder than almost anywhere else in the world. It’s the Wal-Mart physique, really.

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