Minnesota’s Ongoing Humiliation

It’s hard to even know where to start with yesterday’s Ilhan Omar quote:

The people of the 5th CD get the representation they deserve. Good and hard.

35 thoughts on “Minnesota’s Ongoing Humiliation

  1. “Military action (in Venezuela) is possible. If that’s what’s required, that’s what the United States will do” ~ Mike Pompeo

    The Venezuelan military profits from oil trade and services (even now), arms trade, drug trade and foreign exchange arbitrage. They’re sticking with Maduro unless they really think it’s over. And so far — that’s not the case.

    I’m supremely confident that whatever we do, we’ll do the wrong thing.

  2. The United States should let the Venezuelan military know that we are forced to intervene, the first thing we will do is go after their bank accounts, and then there will be trials.

  3. Finally, Emery and I agree on something: the United States should do nothing about Venezuela. America First!

  4. Rumor has it that Maduro was about to take a plush “retirement” package, but the Russian “advisors” advised against it. There you have it– Russian collusion! Maduro has to go!

  5. I looked up at some of Jeffery Sachs’ writing on this matter, and it’s quite frankly hilarious; Sachs (and by transitivity, Omar) appears to be of the view that the Trump administration thought that sanctions would cause a dictator to fold within 24 hours. With straw men like that, it’s no wonder the left doesn’t have anything to add to the question.

    Regarding Omar’s statements, it’s also shocking to see a person so out of touch with reality that she cannot even consider the possibility that after Chavez and Maduro confiscated property of oil companies, that those same oil companies would start telling them “it’s cash on the barrelhead or no deal.”

    My take here is that the Cubans and Russians are working very, very hard to keep Maduro in power because they know very well that the consequences of failure will be bleak. Now is not the time to go wobbly, President Trump.

  6. So, @Emery @JoeDoakes ;

    We have 260,000 Venezuelan refugees, Colombia over a million, Spain, 200,000 but these figures can easily double.

    So, putting America first is about having more refugees all around? Because this is what this is about, not the tinfoil hat conspiracies about oil. The refugees are destabilizing the South America region, maybe the whole region.

  7. Bike Bubba wrote:

    I looked up at some of Jeffery Sachs’ writing on this matter, and it’s quite frankly hilarious; Sachs (and by transitivity, Omar) appears to be of the view that the Trump administration thought that sanctions would cause a dictator to fold within 24 hours. With straw men like that, it’s no wonder the left doesn’t have anything to add to the question.

    Regarding Omar’s statements, it’s also shocking to see a person so out of touch with reality that she cannot even consider the possibility that after Chavez and Maduro confiscated property of oil companies, that those same oil companies would start telling them “it’s cash on the barrelhead or no deal.”

    My take here is that the Cubans and Russians are working very, very hard to keep Maduro in power because they know very well that the consequences of failure will be bleak. Now is not the time to go wobbly, President Trump.

    Good write-up,

    BTW, we have sent two aircraft carriers down to Venezuela.

    Intervention in Venezuela, my $.02 is only going to come if we see the regime kill Guiado for example. Arrest? I don’t think so but it will raise up the rhetoric.

    As for Jeffrey Sachs, I get it, I looked him up too, he’s way tied in to the Democracy Now group, who are kind of like Code Pink. I use to listen to Democracy Now on Public Radio… well, one can look up radio listings, this isn’t the place for that now. They are also on satellite TV.

    Omar also just had her statement, “‘This Is Not Going to Be the Country of White People’”, now there is a context to that statement but as everyone is saying, imagine a white Republican representative saying something like the USA “‘This Is Not Going to Be the Country of Black People’”

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/04/30/omar-at-hands-off-ilhan-rally-trump-gop-created-monsters-terrorizing-jews-and-muslims/

    So, I don’t know how she did it but she has outdone her vileness some from what I see.

  8. Sorry, Mr Yellow Bike, I too agree with JD that we should do nothing – regardless of Emery’s “tinfoil hat conspiracies about oil”. Venezuelans voted for this, multiple times, they accepted confiscation of their weapons, they were bought off by “free shit” and loved it, eff ’em. They got what they wanted, good and hard.

  9. @myyellowbike, perhaps I was too hasty. What do you think the United States should do to prevent refugees from fleeing Venezuela?

  10. Just: Having said that, it would also distract mightily from investigations at home. When they (military) switch sides it’s because Guaidó cut a deal with them.

  11. JDM:

    Sorry, Mr Yellow Bike, I too agree with JD that we should do nothing – regardless of Emery’s “tinfoil hat conspiracies about oil”. Venezuelans voted for this, multiple times, they accepted confiscation of their weapons, they were bought off by “free shit” and loved it, eff ’em. They got what they wanted, good and hard.

    Then get ready for more refugees and no, they won’t be turned back at the border. That is a pipe dream.

    Also, the legitimate elected leader is Juan Guiado, it is not Nicolas Maduro.

    https://www.foxnews.com/world/guaido-democratically-elected-leader-not-coup

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/who-is-venezuelas-president-juan-guaido-or-nicolas-maduro-understanding-the-venezuela-crisis-and-protests/

    The argument is there can not even be a Coup D’Etat because Maduro is not the legitimate leader in Vzla.

    Also, back to Jeffrey Sachs above in one of the other posts, I note, Sachs says sanctions have done this and this to the people of Venezuela. Well, Vzla has the largest oil reserves in the world. They should be able to overcome the adversity.

  12. OK, here’s what Russia wants with Venezuela; they are 100% happy with Venezuela not being able to export oil at their natural level because it keeps their own oil prices high and their own bank accounts full. If Guiado gets power and fixes things, they are in heap big trouble, and whether or not the regime changes in Cuba, Cuban activities will become irrelevant. Fidel and his four hour speeches are (thank God) dead, and without Venezuelan oil, good luck keeping that economy going.

    And if the Russians have nukes there, it’s all for that–and thanks to the Obama administration for passively acquiescing while the silos were built, idiots. Hopefully it isn’t true, but I wouldn’t be surprised.

  13. I should have said the Florida Representative said Venezuela could have Russian Nukes, not has them….

    But anyway, let’s say we are libertarians. There is a drug war going on. Maybe as a libertarian one doesn’t buy into the drug war, nonetheless, the refugee crisis down there is, allegedly, threatening our partnership with Colombia per the drug war.

    What’s more, Colombia had a terrible war down there, we might not have heard about it as much but during the time, the Syrian war has been going on, only the Syrian war created more displaced persons. Colombia’s war in 2015 had 7 million displaced persons per Wapo, what I’m reading, every time or often when I put in links or copy and paste text, it seems to get filed away for moderation.

    As said, the news has reported, we’ve sent two aircraft carriers down, one on the Pacific side, the other on the Atlantic side. Activists for say, the indigenous peoples in Colombia and other activists have gotten killed all the time. The website, Colombia Reports is helpful.

    And what about the gun confiscation? I’d totally disagree with this, did one know, Caracas has at times, been the murder capitol of the world? I’m not conflating the two points. This just seems to say, there are guns down there, probably mainly about the narco-trafficking situation.

    I don’t see US military intervention, it is on the table as they say, unless, repeating myself, they say killed Guiado or we saw some sort of abuses like this.

    Panampost is another good site to read up on though, I find a lot of their articles “shallow”.

    But again, with what I said at the beginning, the way, these events are threatening the drug war seems to be one key in how we are viewing this. Colombia has finally, had somewhat closure to a long war there with FARC Marxist rebels, probably supported by Cuba and Venezuela. So, a complex situation indeed.

  14. Myyellowbike, I’m not quite following your line of reasoning.

    When I suggested the US do nothing about Venezuela, your big concern was refugees fleeing their country. I ask again, what do you think the United States should to prevent refugees fleeing Venezuela?

  15. Joe Doakes: What do I think the US should do about refugees from Venezuela.

    I think we are on the right course, to apply as much pressure as possible, short of military intervention. So, that’s it in a nutshell.

    Senators Rubio and Menendez sponsored or voted on some bill per Venezuela a few months ago. Rubio wanted a military option available, Menendez did not. I agreed with Menendez on this but I could be wrong.

  16. The legitimate leader of Venezuela is Juan Guiado, it is not Nicolas Maduro. The people of Venezuela did not reelect Maduro for anyone saying the Venezuelans elected this.

  17. I’m with jdm. They got what they voted for. If they don’t like it, tuff.

    The Venezuelan military sees the Ruskies have Maduro’s back. They see the little pencil neck opposing him, Juan “Beto” Guiado and think “Oh hell, no”.

    No one is going to risk their life for a pussy against bad asses. I predict Beto G , and the few soldiers that were stupid enough to throw in with him will be making a helicopter tour of the countryside by the end of the week. When there are no more zoo animals or pets to eat, the people might decide to do something about the mess they made. Or maybe they wont. Either way, not my circus; not my monkeys.

  18. My original thesis about Ilhan Omar is that she is a stupid woman. Nothing in her behavior indicates otherwise.
    Someone should ask her why her native country is a shit hole. I bet she has some fascinating explanations that in no way hold her own people responsible for their misery.

  19. You can have your own opinions but not your own facts,

    Guiado is recognized interim president by the free world, most of Latin America and most of the West including President Trump btw. Over 50 countries.

    Make me gag, talk down Guiado, the dude could easily be killed for what he’s doing, he has a lot more cojones than Captn Red Neck Badd A$$ giving his spiel, must be soft on.

    1. Communism

    2. Terrorism (yes, Hezbollah is down there)

    3. Drug traffickers.

    Maybe Guiado’s fault is not being all words, talk is cheap. The man is out there doing something and risking his life., Sure has Trump’s thumbsup. Maybe such other folks should go back to Democracy Now.

    No, we aren’t sending troops in… we will keep the pressure up.

  20. I’m not convinced that the Venezuelan people have actually voted for Maduro–Chavez, yes, back in the 1990s, but I don’t believe there have really been free elections, untainted by huge voter intimidation and writing credible opponents off the ballot, since then. I’d guess half the population has never voted in a free election, and half again never voted for the ruling party. Their parents may have been guilty, but I’d argue they didn’t know better.

    Still not a brilliant idea to charge in if indeed there are a couple of divisions from Cuba there, but…perspective.

  21. bb, I’m gonna to have to see a lot more than “my guess” and “may” before I think we should send anyone from my family, neighborhood, county, state, or country to be killed for no reason other those fucking knuckleheads asked for this and now they’re real sorry.

    It also bothers me that the last 60 years has trained so many of my countrymen to even entertain the thought of sending troops as near the top of the list of options. It was hard for me to go cold-turkey on this too.

  22. BB, Guiado is a Socialist too. And he’s the guy that’s supposed to save the country.

    All the smart people in Venezuela gtfo 2 minutes after Chavez won. Only sheep left down there now looking for a Shepard to feed them.

  23. Jeeze. I have no idea what put me into moderation this time.

  24. The word “Socialist” will always, always get you moderated.

    Thank “Cialis”.

  25. Haven’t heard anything from Guiado? You know, there was a column out, “Waiting for Guiado” because it sounds like that famous play, “Waiting for Godot”…

    Trish Regan is the go-to person in the English language media for this crisis, she is on Fox Business at 7 CST; show is repeated and she has news clips on her twitter page, Guiado was on last night, per interview, Trump gave an interview tonight. He wasn’t in the studio, phone interview, both. (and there are plenty of other sources, look at everything, I’m not especially plugging her, it’s convenient is all).

    And bringing it back to Omar, Omar made the claim how the US sanctions hurt the Venezuelan people, Jeffrey Sachs apparently did a study and on the Trish Regan show tonight, they pointed out how previously, US sanctions had been against individuals, not the country. That excerpt is at Trish Regan’s twitter account in case anyone is interested, so the sanctions on individuals would not have killed people as was being said.

  26. Phyllis Kahn: a biophysicist, Cornell and then Yale for a PhD.
    Ilhan Omar: North Dakota State, BA in PoliSci and International Relations.

  27. Phyllis Kahn: a biophysicist, Cornell and then Yale for a PhD.
    Ilhan Omar: North Dakota State, BA in PoliSci and International Relations.

    We didn’t need more proof that education has no correlation with intelligence, but there it is.
    Send a lunatic to the Ivy League; you get a radicalized lunatic.
    Send a low IQ refugee from a 3rd world shithole to a 3rd tier state Uni, you get a radicalized moron.

    Neither one is fit for gainful employment anywhere but government.

  28. Btw, I don’t think the CD 5 is at all bothered my their rep’s comments

  29. jdm, Mogadishu Barbie could light a tire fire on Washington Ave., and her constituents would dance around it.

    Honestly, and in all seriousness, I just don’t know how much longer we can go on like this. All I can say is I am so grateful I don’t have to be around Somalis or leftists any more.

  30. Swiftee,

    You may be correct. When President Trump was in town a couple of weeks ago, there were a few of Omar’s drooling sycophants holding signs supporting her. Funny! Two of them were womyn that looked to be in their 60s.

  31. We deal with a dumbed down electorate, especially on foreign policy.

    IMHO, this is why Obama was a disaster especially on foreign policy, Benghazi, the withdrawal of troops in Iraq in 2011 I believe. Hey, I get it if one was against the Iraq invasion from the beginning but once there, the region was pacified was not time to withdraw., withdrawing led to the rise of ISIS, a lot of bloodshed and the near extermination of Christianity in Iraq and Syria. Trump really saved the day on that. I’m sorry Mattis left, stuff like that.

    It’s no wonder, if the Dems get in power, things can go to hell in a handbasket, Republicans have their big faults as well.

    All we can do is go forward now. The other is in the past to learn from. Foreign policy undoubtedly can be a minefield. Omar is saying the most stupid things on all of this.

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