I Don’t Have to Outrun the Bear. Just You.

While Democrats and Republicans battle it out, most Americans have lost no love for either party and may be lining up behind…neither.

Main Street America has entered an era of populism that embraces neither party. People are tired of government bailouts, spending and unchecked corruption, as well as the media’s perceived lack of curiosity or investigation into all three.

They are really tired of being told their values and way of life are not politically correct.

America is pissed off. Unless an independent candidate can connect with enough Americans to garner a majority, Republicans probably have a chance to end Obama’s Reign of Pain. But, thanks to George W. Bush’s invention of the modern liberal Republican, there are no guarantees.

Americans lost faith in Republicans as evidenced by their willingness to vote a charismatic, well-spoken but otherwise completely unqualified decoy into the White House.

While President Obama enjoyed a brief honeymoon, since about June more Americans think we’re moving in the wrong direction; less Americans believe we are moving in the right direction. Obama’s popularity is sinking like a lead zeppelin. Clearly the honeymoon is over for the Democrats.

But Republican’s don’t have to outrun the bear as the saying goes, they just have to outrun the other guy the bear is chasing. Thanks to Obama, Reid, Pelosi and their ilk, Democrats have a lot more ground to cover when it comes to the issues America will soon hold most high.

“Elites like President Obama see government as a force for protecting the little guy,” explains University of Arkansas political scientist Robert Maranto. “But regular folks on Main Street see government as incomprehensible and unpredictable.”

Even with the best of intentions, government almost always does more harm than good.

When President Obama orders corporate bailouts, a stimulus plan that costs a quarter-million-dollars a job, or talks more about expanding government than reducing unemployment, folks are naturally skeptical, Maranto says.

Most Americans are Jeffersonians: They want limited government – totally at odds with Obama, who wants government without limits.

Let the footrace begin. The first party to fiscal sanity wins. Unfortunately for them, the Democrats don’t even know where the starting line is, and with unemployment above ten, a series of failed bailouts and stimuli, dithering on defense, and foreign policy gaffes, they’re wearing concrete boots.

Meanwhile, the bear smells blood. Blue blood.

27 thoughts on “I Don’t Have to Outrun the Bear. Just You.

  1. Outrunning the bear will keep you alive, but better to figure out what you did to piss the bear off in the first place.

    If the GOP doesn’t put up solid conservative candidates next year, then they may pick up seats in Congress, but only as a backlash against the Dems. Rather than just settling for voter dissatisfaction with the Dem party, the GOP needs to provide a reason to vote red.

  2. So many people have become so accustomed to living off other people’s labor that it’s going to take more than a little dissappointment to change their expectations of government. A big part of Obama’s disapproval rating is people who think he’s doing TOO LITTLE!

    Can a 20-year-old remember the lessons her great-grandfather learned surviving the Great Depression? If not, who will teach those lessons to her? If nobody, then how is she supposed to avoid making those mistakes again? She’ll have to suffer the same hard knocks, learn the same rough lessons. There is no free lunch, no matter how hard we wish for it.

    I fear we’re headed for a giant economic convulsion. Nothing less will shock us back to our senses.

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  3. Nate….good point. We are just about to the point where over 50% of the voters pay little or no income tax. Where over 50% of the voters get lots of free stuff from the gov’t. How does a self-sustaining person win when he/she tells those 51+% of voters that the gravey train is going to be scaled back a bit? That everyone has to pay for their fair share?

  4. Rooshbag said: “dithering on defense”

    Taking time to consider the alternatives before committing 35,000 troops to Afghanistan you mean? Gonna stick with “dithering” or try to come up with something a non-far-right-wingnut-kook might actually agree with?

  5. So Boosh’s problem was that he was a lib’ral, eh Roosh?

    Angryclown gets so much entertainment from you kooks!

  6. McKiernan wanted 40,000 more troops but Obama didn’t want to commit that many so he fired McKiernan and told McChrystal to take a fresh look.

    McChrystal asked for the same 40,000 troops months ago but Obama still doesn’t want to commit that many so he’s looking for a face-saving out.

    Dithering.

    And ends up offering 35,000, as if he were Bob Dole agreeing to a new Democrat entitlement proposal only not so expensive.

    My God, the man’s become a RINO.

    .

  7. Nate said: I fear we’re headed for a giant economic convulsion. Nothing less will shock us back to our senses.

    Nate, there is no doubt that we have crossed the tipping point. Right now the national debt is something like $50K per person, which is to say $100-200K per household, which will be devastating for all but the very thin veneer of households at the top that can afford to assume it.

    …and that’s if we stop deficit spending today, instead of increasing it.

    Whether you believe in the case for health care reform are whatever the issue, no one is asking if we can afford all the things liberals want to do because they already know the answer.

    Angryclown said: So Boosh’s problem was that he was a lib’ral, eh Roosh?

    Yes. Fiscally speaking, yes. How many times do I have to make that point for you?

  8. Bush spent more than Clinton. We have established that. But Clinton also oversaw one of the greatest economic booms in recent times, and had Newt to contain him. Bush and Hastert were complicit in raiding the treasury. Thats what happens when one party is running all 3 branches… kinda like now.

  9. They say all you need for grizzly bears is a .22 pistol.

    When you see a grizzly,
    shoot your buddy in the leg and run like hell.

  10. So……….who is this mythical Republican that is going to win this hypothetical bear race?

    I just wrote a new article on the recent Pawlenty poll, comparing it to similar polls going back more than 9 months – the numbers were surprisingly consistent even in the 6th Congressional district (most recent poll done in St. Cloud). Pawlenty would lose to Obama by 10 points; he couldn’t carry his own state. I doubt Palin could carry Alaska, and her approval ratings in a recent Iowa poll were worse than Pawlenty’s — and at least in Iowa they know who he is.

    I don’t forsee big wins from candidates who can’t carry their home states.

    There may – may – or may not be some of the usual mid term election gains ahead, but a lot of predictions place them as smaller than usual. If the economy improves, as many predict it will in 2010, there could be some shuffling of individuals, but not likely to be big net gains in the final numbers.

    The GOP is still a disgraced “brand”, and so far, there is no break out winning contender for the party to back either.

    So good luck with that bear. I’m betting there’s more chance that the GoP will shoot itself in the foot — again. The Republican’s don’t seem to get the math right on their predictions. And I just read an article indicating asignificant edge in Dem’s fundraising over the GOP. That doesn’t equate perfectly to votes, but it is suugestive of support.

  11. So……….who is this mythical Republican that is going to win this hypothetical bear race?

    Why should we tell you. You’re not in our club.

    if the economy improves, as many predict it will in 2010…

    Its the unemployment, stupid (not you specifically, its just a saying) and that is not expected to go down for a long time; in fact with everything the Democrats are doing, it could keep going up for much of 2010

    The GOP is still a disgraced “brand”

    …hence my post; the GOP doesn’t have to restore itself to its former glory; just outrun the ire of the voter with the Democrats when they realized the goods they were sold.

    I’m betting there’s more chance that the GoP will shoot itself in the foot — again.

    Pretty hard to do right now with Democrats in the White House and running Congress

  12. Ahhh, yes, a generous smattering of left-wing-moon-bat-drivel.

    The first dead-give-away was the part about Obama actually winning Alaska in 2012. 😆 Yet, not enough intestinal fortitude to make a bet, eh.

  13. November 30th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
    DG wrote: “So……….who is this mythical Republican that is going to win this hypothetical bear race?”

    Johnny Roosh Says:
    “Why should we tell you. You’re not in our club.”

    I’m guessing that bravado translates into the reality of you just don’t know.

    As to not being in your club? I’d bet I’ve voted Republican in more elections than you have, and probably participated in more cuacuses as well. I’m one of those who left the conservatives, disgusted with them, and stopped voting or otherwise supporting the GOP. And if people like me continue to stay away, and to vote independently instead of supporting the GOP, “your” little club will become tinier and tinier, not more powerful. It takes a lot of spin to get from “an era of populism that embraces neither party.” to that being big boosts in favor of your partisan politics.

    And for those who are too stupid about the economy to recognize this — jobs and employment ARE a part of it, along with many other indicators.

    It doesn’t matter if Obama does or does not win Alaska in 2012, alaska is too small to matter. But if the GOP can’t find people who can win in their own home state (which rules out Palin in 2012), then those candidates are unlikely to win anywhere else either, if you look at the history of our elections. McCain for example had a much closer race in Arizona as well, and there was that NY 23rd congressional district that looked like it couldn’t be lost to the Republicans until……….oh, yeah……..until they shot themselves in the foot, helped by both Pawlenty and Palin, among others.

  14. “I’m guessing…”

    Yes, we already knew that.

    …. ….
    “I’m one of those who left the conservatives,…”

    B as in B, S as in S

    I’m calling 2-855-7448 on DG.

    ….

    Tossing your principles and ideology under the bus in order to win elections at any cost can only be considered “shooting themselves in the foot” if you never had principles or morals to start with…

    I suppose it would be easy for a person to switch around like that if they had no ideology, core beliefs, or morals.

    *shrug*

    ….

    We should all praise the LightWorker for keeping unemployment below 8% like he said the stimuloss would do…

    Say, DG, how’s that unemployment rate doing? What were you saying about “those who are too stupid about the economy to recognize…”???

    …. ….

    Dog Gone Says:
    November 30th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
    “, alaska is too small to matter.”

    Thanks for showing your true colors, DG.

    So, DG, how many states don’t matter out of the 57 states? All of the “red” ones don’t matter? Really? Then why shouldn’t they secede from the “union” if they don’t matter?

    It reminds me of a Franklin quote:
    “A Republic, if you can keep it.”
    We all know what the key word was in that quote.

  15. Taking time to consider the alternatives before committing 35,000 troops to Afghanistan you mean?

    Obama is “the indecider”!
    I liked “the decider” better.

  16. DG,

    And if people like me continue to stay away, and to vote independently instead of supporting the GOP, “your” little club will become tinier and tinier, not more powerful.

    Well, the polling out today might tend to indicate that that’s a mighty big if. A few months ago, I despaired of the GOP being able to capitalize on the current disaffection with Obama. I’m coming around a little more each day.

    It takes a lot of spin to get from “an era of populism that embraces neither party.” to that being big boosts in favor of your partisan politics.

    We don’t need big boosts. Not yet. We need to keep the word out there, and stir the discontentment.

    It doesn’t matter if Obama does or does not win Alaska in 2012, alaska is too small to matter. But if the GOP can’t find people who can win in their own home state (which rules out Palin in 2012),

    Er, how do you figure that? The GOP has won Alaska, even bad years, almost exclusively; it’s almost as reliable as Utah and North Dakota. Do you believe that if Palin were nominated for President she wouldn’t win, much less win by 40 points?

    then those candidates are unlikely to win anywhere else either, if you look at the history of our elections. McCain for example had a much closer race in Arizona as well,

    Precisely because it was an awful year for Republicans.

    and there was that NY 23rd congressional district that looked like it couldn’t be lost to the Republicans until……….oh, yeah……..until they shot themselves in the foot, helped by both Pawlenty and Palin, among others.

    Now, DG, you’re smarter than that. I know you’re surrounded by the kool-aid-sotted at Penigma, but you can only consider NY23 a loss if you conflate Republican with Conservative – and that conflation is deeply misleading in this case. The “Republican” Scozzafava ran to the left of the Democrat, and spent a million dollars and gave an endorsement against the conservative. Hoffman had about two weeks, and no money, and almost nothing for advertising but word of mouth – and he almost won. Indeed, if the absentee vote count goes right, he could in theory still win (although it’s doubtful). And it’s more than passingly likely he, or a conservative GOP nominee, will win the seat back next year.

    And if you plug your ears and say “nananadoesn’tmatterRepublicanIsRepublicanAnd A SeatIsASeatAndThat’sAllThereIsToIt”, like too many leftybloggers, that might give you that misleading sense of accomplishment that the media wanted you to have on election night – but it’s really not accurate.

    Victory is not made of inspirational defeats – but in the long run NY23 was good news for conservatives, and bad news for fake Republicans. And that’s what the GOP REALLY needs.

  17. Johnny Dooshbag [saving Assclown the trouble] said: Why should we tell you. You’re not in our club.

    Dog [Long] Gone replied: I’m guessing that bravado translates into the reality of you just don’t know.

    As to not being in your club? I’d bet I’ve voted Republican in more elections than you have, and probably participated in more caucuses as well [blah blah blah…my dog’s bigger than yours is…blah blah blah…my Daddy bowls better than your Daddy…blah blah blah]

    Sorry Poochie. I’ll be sure to put one of those smiley faces at the end when I’m being droll so you don’t have to go off the deep end again. My bad.

  18. Johnny wrote “Why should we tell you. You’re not in our club.”

    The thing is Roosh that there are a lot of well connected political commenters around, who get paid to be aware of who is doing what in politics, and to be articulate about what they observe. They belong to real ‘clubs’ or other organizations that are comparable, like the press club – and they do tell us what they know. There isn’t anyone at least at the moment for you to “tell” or “not tell”. You’ve got bupkis.

    You can keep banging that tired olddrum about Americans being discontented, but there still seems to be a greater discontent with the previous Republican years than with anything else. You can smiley face that, or try putting lipstick on it if you want, or make up tired bear chasing metaphors, but it is still bupkis.

    Mitch wrote:”Er, how do you figure that? The GOP has won Alaska, even bad years, almost exclusively; it’s almost as reliable as Utah and North Dakota. Do you believe that if Palin were nominated for President she wouldn’t win, much less win by 40 points?”

    No, after her resignation as governor, I don’t think Palin could win Alaska.

    Utah, North Dakota, Alaska —– they are important as any other part of the country in many ways, but they lack population. Elections are about votes, one per person……..in that specific sense, they do not and should not have the significance that larger populations confer on winning other states.

    NY 23 proved what happens when you fracture your own party; you lose. NY23 did not have a primary the excuse given for the outside interference, influence, whatever you want to call it. The conservative candidate didn’t live in the district or have much support locally; the one and pretty much the only thing he . hadwas his conservative conformity. I think thesmarter thing to have done would have been to find common cause with the GOP candidate and to have used the time until the next election to find a good local but more conservative for the next election – to build a better locally representative base; not to fracture it.

    One possibility for NY 23 isthat its boundaries will be redrawn changing the relative parisan make up. Or, with census data, if it reflects the decline some have noted, might lose a rep entirely. Not a lot of upside to that particular inspirational defeat.

    How many election cycles have there been now, of inspirational defeats? Like Bullwinkle the cartoon moose from frost bite falls, mn, with the funbled magic act, your motto can be “this time, for sure!”.

  19. Johnny wrote “Why should we tell you. You’re not in our club.”

    The thing is Roosh that there are a lot of well connected political commenters around, who get paid to be aware of who is doing what in politics, and to be articulate about what they observe. They belong to real ‘clubs’ or other organizations that are comparable, like the press club – and they do tell us what they know. There isn’t anyone at least at the moment for you to “tell” or “not tell”. You’ve got bupkis.

    You can keep banging that tired olddrum about Americans being discontented, but there still seems to be a greater discontent with the previous Republican years than with anything else. You can smiley face that, or try putting lipstick on it if you want, or make up tired bear chasing metaphors, but it is still bupkis.

    Mitch wrote:”Er, how do you figure that? The GOP has won Alaska, even bad years, almost exclusively; it’s almost as reliable as Utah and North Dakota. Do you believe that if Palin were nominated for President she wouldn’t win, much less win by 40 points?”

    No, after her resignation as governor, I don’t think Palin could win Alaska.

    Utah, North Dakota, Alaska —– they are important as any other part of the country in many ways, but they lack population. Elections are about votes, one per person……..in that specific sense, they do not and should not have the significance that larger populations confer on winning other states.

    NY 23 proved what happens when you fracture your own party; you lose. NY23 did not have a primary the excuse given for the outside interference, influence, whatever you want to call it. The conservative candidate didn’t live in the district or have much support locally; the one and pretty much the only thing he . hadwas his conservative conformity. I think thesmarter thing to have done would have been to find common cause with the GOP candidate and to have used the time until the next election to find a good local but more conservative for the next election – to build a better locally representative base; not to fracture it.

    One possibility for NY 23 isthat its boundaries will be redrawn changing the relative parisan make up. Or, with census data, if it reflects the decline some have noted, might lose a rep entirely. Not a lot of upside to that particular inspirational defeat.

    How many election cycles have there been now, of inspirational defeats? Like Bullwinkle the cartoon moose from frost bite falls, mn, with the fumbled magic act, your motto can be “this time, for sure!”.

  20. Johnny wrote “Why should we tell you. You’re not in our club.”

    The thing is Roosh that there are a lot of well connected political commenters around, who get paid to be aware of who is doing what in politics, and to be articulate about what they observe. They belong to real ‘clubs’ or other organizations that are comparable, like the press club – and they do tell us what they know. There isn’t anyone at least at the moment for you to “tell” or “not tell”. You’ve got bupkis.

    You can keep banging that tired olddrum about Americans being discontented, but there still seems to be a greater discontent with the previous Republican years than with anything else. You can smiley face that, or try putting lipstick on it if you want, or make up tired bear chasing metaphors, but it is still bupkis.

    Mitch wrote:”Er, how do you figure that? The GOP has won Alaska, even bad years, almost exclusively; it’s almost as reliable as Utah and North Dakota. Do you believe that if Palin were nominated for President she wouldn’t win, much less win by 40 points?”

    No, after her resignation as governor, I don’t think Palin could win Alaska.

    Utah, North Dakota, Alaska —– they are important as any other part of the country in many ways, but they lack population. Elections are about votes, one per person……..in that specific sense, they do not and should not have the significance that larger populations confer on winning other states.

    NY 23 proved what happens when you fracture your own party; you lose. NY23 did not have a primary the excuse given for the outside interference, influence, whatever you want to call it. The conservative candidate didn’t live in the district or have much support locally; the one and pretty much the only thing he . hadwas his conservative conformity. I think thesmarter thing to have done would have been to find common cause with the GOP candidate and to have used the time until the next election to find a good local but more conservative for the next election – to build a better locally representative base; not to fracture it.

    One possibility for NY 23 isthat its boundaries will be redrawn changing the relative parisan make up. Or, with census data, if it reflects the decline some have noted, might lose a rep entirely. Not a lot of upside to that particular inspirational defeat.

    How many election cycles have there been now, of inspirational defeats? Like Bullwinkle the cartoon moose from frost bite falls, mn, with the fumbled magic act, your motto can be “this time, for sure!”.

  21. NY 23 proved what happens when you fracture your own party; you lose.
    In what sense would it have been a victory for a liberal to be elected as the representative of the (nominally) conservative party? Given the chaos of NY 23 (for the reasons Mitch mentioned) It is hard to believe that, no matter which way it had gone, the results would have meant anything beyond the borders of NY 23.

    You can keep banging that tired old drum about Americans being discontented, but there still seems to be a greater discontent with the previous Republican years than with anything else.

    The greatest discontentment is not over democrats or republicans, but over bad economic conditions, especially high unemployment. There don’t seem to be a light at the end of that tunnel.

    The fact that Obama is not a Republican may gain him points with you, DG. Other people, esp. independents, are looking for results.

  22. Johnny wrote “Why should we tell you. You’re not in our club.”

    Dog Gone replied: The thing is Roosh that there are a lot of well connected political [commentators] around, who get paid to be aware of who is doing what in politics, and to be articulate about what they observe. They belong to real ‘clubs’ or other organizations that are comparable, like the press club – and they do tell us what they know. There isn’t anyone at least at the moment for you to “tell” or “not tell”. You’ve got .

    I’ve got you don’t I? Bupkis?

  23. So many comments, so little slack time before my next meeting:

    The thing is Roosh that there are a lot of well connected political commenters around, who get paid to be aware of who is doing what in politics, and to be articulate about what they observe. They belong to real ‘clubs’ or other organizations that are comparable, like the press club – and they do tell us what they know.

    Now, that sounds suspiciously like an “appeal to authority”, which is a bit of a logical fallacy, assuming I’m reading everything in context here…

    There isn’t anyone at least at the moment for you to “tell” or “not tell”. You’ve got bupkis.

    Which, in a comment section rhubarb, is a grade Z misdemeanor.

    No, after her resignation as governor, I don’t think Palin could win Alaska.

    Fearless prediction; if Palin is nominated in 2012, she’ll take Alaska by 20 points rather than 40.

    Utah, North Dakota, Alaska —– they are important as any other part of the country in many ways, but they lack population. Elections are about votes, one per person……..in that specific sense, they do not and should not have the significance that larger populations confer on winning other states.

    Well, yeah, votes is votes. But it’s been said that Democracy can only survive until the majority discover they can vote themselves goodies from the treasury. Since we’re rapidly approaching the point where half of Americans pay no federal income taxes, that’s no idle concern. And since the “small” states of the midwest and west are the ones that (Paul Krugman’s cherrypicked stats notwithstanding and allowing for differences in income) are the net contributors and tend to have the governments that are actually functioning well, that’s not an idle concern to an awful lot of us, who are a little upset at the prospect of generations of generally good, generally responsible government being undone by two presidents’ wastrelcy.

    Put another way; we may be the minority, but we’re right.

    NY 23 proved what happens when you fracture your own party; you lose.

    DG, you are smarter than this. Think about it. The “fracture” didnt’ come from Doug Hoffman.

    The NY23 GOP, meeting in a smoke-filled room in Peshtawakanaughawa or wtf their HQ was, picked a far-left, pro-“choice”, pro gun control, pro tax and spend wife of a union leader who happened to have donned a “Republican” label like a piece of costume jewelry. A “Republican” who, let me say this again, ran to the left of Owen It was the NY23 GOP Central Committee that did the “Fracturing”; operating against the increasingly-conservative will of the local electorate, they selected a “Repbublican” whjo likely would have voted with Nancy Pelosi’s majority on most important issues!

    If that’s a “Republican”, then “fracturing” was not only good, but necessary. A “Win” on November 3 would have been a loss in the long run. The GOP is better off (especially since a conservative nominee for that seat will beat Owen next year.

    NY23 did not have a primary the excuse given for the outside interference, influence, whatever you want to call it. The conservative candidate didn’t live in the district or have much support locally;

    Well, you’re right to a point; he was something of an outsider, he had less money than either of the other two, he had to fight both the Dem and the “Republican”, and he wasn’t a great campaigner.

    And yet he came within just a couple of points of winning. For not having “much support locally”, he did vastly better than he should have. And if he (or another conservative) tries again next year, he will win, and the whole thing will be vindicated.

    Let me emphasize: It was a short-term loss that likely will be a big long-term win, both in NY23 and, symbolically, far beyond.

    the one and pretty much the only thing he . hadwas his conservative conformity.

    You say this – and I say this half-seriously – like it’s a bad thing. It’s not. The GOP needs to do two things; re-find its identity, which it largely lost from 1998 through 2008, and start convincing the undecideds that that identity is preferable to what the Dems are selling. Obama is doing a nice job of doing #2 for us; exercises like NY23 and, in Minnesota, the repudiation of the “Override Six” and the cancerous legacies of Arne Carlson and Dave Durenberger are necessary for #1.

    I think thesmarter thing to have done would have been to find common cause with the GOP candidate and to have used the time until the next election to find a good local but more conservative for the next election – to build a better locally representative base; not to fracture it.

    If Scozzafava had been an actual “moderate” – say, in the same league as Jim Ramstad – that might have made sense. You can make enough common cause with someone like that to at least keep a tenuous grip on integrity.

    But Scozzafava was – and you keep ignoring this – far to the left of even Owen. She would be comfortable in the left wing of the MNDFL. It’d be like the Likud party nominating a Ba’athist. There was no common cause to be made. Far better under the circumstances to chase her and the country-club GOP backwash that selected her out of the party whilst pelting them with rocks and garbage – especially given that “the circumstances” are “we’ll win next year anyway”.

    One possibility for NY 23 isthat its boundaries will be redrawn changing the relative parisan make up. Or, with census data, if it reflects the decline some have noted, might lose a rep entirely. Not a lot of upside to that particular inspirational defeat.

    Perhaps, perhaps not; since districting is controlled by the state legislature, it’s just as likely to have changed had Scozzafava won. But a conservative will win in 2010; if the revulsion with Obama continues to grow (and there were big signs of that in upstate NY, with Hoffman’s perfomance being a key symptom), it might not turn out so bad for the good guys.

    How many election cycles have there been now, of inspirational defeats? Like Bullwinkle the cartoon moose from frost bite falls, mn, with the fumbled magic act, your motto can be “this time, for sure!”.

    DG, you need to read fewer leftyblogs and hang out with fewer leftybloggers. Conservatism didn’t suffer “inspirational defeats”, or even depressing ones; it was the sort of mushy moderatism represented by the likes of Scozzafava that got embarassed in ’06 and ’08, and led the party to the abyss it was in back then. Look – when you have moderates like Gil Gutknecht getting beaten in places like the First District, while Erik Paulsen runs to the right of conventional wisdom and wins the “purple” Third, and Michele Bachmann wins the supposedly “in play” Sixth by the biggest margin in the state in ’06 and pulls out an upset in ’08, that’s not a sign that conservatism is the problem.

    You really need to rethink that whole proposition. Or better yet, get your entire party to ignore it.

  24. “In what sense would it have been a victory for a liberal to be elected as the representative of the (nominally) conservative party?”

    Only in the world of the far-left-moon-bat-liberals like Peevee and DG.

    I wouldn’t care [much] less if Bachmann was re-elected as a Democrat, just so she doesn’t change her conservative ideals. 🙂

    ….

    “The fact that Obama is not a Republican may gain him points with you, DG. Other people, esp. independents, are looking for results.”

    Spot on! But never underestimate the blind adoration toward The Obama.

    DogNagIt, you can repeat your comment as many times as you please, but it doesn’t change that fact that you have been taken to task once again. 8)

  25. Here are a few things the Lefties will forget at their peril:
    -Democratic control of both houses of Congress preceded the financial meltdown by 18 mos.
    -Mushy moderate republican & poor campaigner McCain — coupled with political unknown, hi-negatives Palin came within five points of beating Obama & Biden
    -The leadership deficit is not only on the GOP side. Biden is a joke. Edwards has become a political untouchable. Hillary is a less then competent SecState, with negatives comparable to Palin’s. Dodd is wracked by financial scandals. Richardson ditto.
    O is all you’ve got & his popularity is sliding fast.

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