North Dakota Democrats – who haven’t won a statewide office since 2008, and don’t actually have enough legislators to fill their committee assignments in the NoDak state legislature – have the same city mouse/country mouse divide that Minnesota DFLers do; Democrats from Fargo and Grand Forks, bodies scarcely less dogmatically “progressive” than their cousins in Minneapolis, have come to dominate the imploding party.
How much do they dominate it? According to Rob Port, they heckled North Dakota’s sole significant elected Democrat, Senator Heidi Heidtkamp at a recent “reorganization” meeting.
Best part? The urban simps are so ungodly (Ungoddessly?) ouy-of-control that the rural wing of the party is thinking about splitting up along lines that go back nearly 100 years:
“[Rural Democrats] were completely ignored,” [Rob Port’s] source said, adding that he wasn’t sure what the message for the party would be in 2018 but added that it “damn sure won’t be rural friendly.”
“A number of districts wanted an economic message coming out of the party,” my source continued, adding that there was also a desire to communicate to voters that “not all Democrats are against oil.”
“They were completely ignored,” my source said.
Saying that some are calling the party the “Democrats of the Red River Valley,” my source added that “some people are talking seriously about splitting from the party and reforming the NPL.”That would be the Nonpartisan League part of the Democratic-NPL, the history of which you can brush up on here.
My sources pointed to a Facebook event created for a “New NPL Caucus Meeting” scheduled for July. One of my sources described that as a “organization meeting” for the NPL, though the event page itself seems to describe the effort as a caucus within the Democratic party itself.
The event page does say this new caucus was created on April 8, the same day as the Democratic party’s reorganization in Bismarck.
This, as North Dakota closes in on an decade of Republican hegemony that has left it, even with the lull in wildcatting, in excellent economic shape.
The message to Minnesota voters is clear: try conservative governance for a generation or so.
The GOP “autopsy report” on the 2012 election was woefully wrong on what it took to put a Republican in the White House, but at least it called for more inclusion. The Democrats seem to be going the other direction. Absolute hatred of Trump and anyone or anything with the “R” label is demanded, and the demand is ruthlessly enforced.
Currently the dems seems to be contracting to burning hot core of hatred.
Anything is possible, especially given Trump’s unpredictable nature and the big media players in constant attack mode against the administration, but the trajectory doesn’t look good for the Democrats. They are being driven by external events. If things out of their control don’t break their way, they will get spanked again in 2018.
MP, absent something very unforeseen, I’d say that the Dems are in for a spanking in 2018 anyway. Trump isn’t seen all that much as a generic Republican as he is as a businessman in the Republican party; the Republican party has Trump as a member, but it’s not remade itself in Trump’s image. As such, his personal approval has less of an impact on the Republican party, for good or bad.
In contrast, the Demonrat party has taken Obama as their godhead and have remade themselves in his image. What they have failed to appreciate is that Obama’s personal popularity was utterly disconnected from the electoral revulsion at his policies.
It’s a very strange mirror image situation: Trump’s policies are popular, but Trump is personally unpopular, while Obama’s policies were unpopular, but Obama himself was popular. I’m constantly reminded that it took a playwright switching the genders of Clinton and Trump in their debates to get Clinton voters to understand why Clinton was so unpopular and why voters selected Trump despite not liking his persona as much.
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You cannot trust the major media to even pretend that they are unbiased anymore. I am talking about the WaPo, The NY Times, all the major networks.
It’s not hard to find out the truth about, say, Trmp’s raucus news conference of Feb.16. ou can find the transcript or watch the video. But any MSM story about is an editorial passed off as news.
My local small-town paper rotates between four columnists on its opinion page: Krugman, Milbank, Will, and Kathleen Parker. That’s two liberals, one conservative, and one moderate (Parker, though I believe she voted for Obama x 2). All of them are in the camp of the virulent Trump haters. Will at least writes an occasional column whose topic is not Trump. With the other three it is all visceral Trump hatred.
In today’s Krugman column, he actually wrote “Trump might like to claim that the media are biased against him, but the truth is they’ve bent over backward in his favor.”
This is surreal. Like, certifiably insane. How am I supposed to make reasonable judgments about Trump’s behavior when this is the crap the MSM pushes on the citizens of our republic?
The big news to day, in my opinion, was that Putin met with Tillerson. Putin is head of state, Tillerson is secretary of state. This seems to indicate a certain “stooping” on the part of Putin, but you won’t see that reported in the MSM.
The WaPo’s front page today heads five stories, for with trump’s name in the headline, one with Tillerson’s. All of the Trump headlines have an obvious, undisguised anti-Trump slant.
I used to think the Instapundit was engaging in hyperbole when he said “Just think of journalists as Democrat operatives with a by-line and it all makes sense.”
I no longer think that.
Were there one on one meetings between sHrillary and Kerry with Putin?
checking…
A quick scan does not show that sHrillary did, but Kerry indeed met with Putin on a subject of Syria. Imagine that!
I don’t think you can rationally criticize division given the fractures among Republicans.
And you suggestion to try conned – servative government is a joke.
Your buddy Sam Brown back who scammed Kansas conservatives into that proposition of trying conservative government has a terrible outcome after pursuing Republican policies. For the longest time ol Sam was the most hated governor in the country, once another Republican who I trashed his state quit. Now the most hated is Chris Christie just barely passing Brownback for that ‘distinction’.
I seem to remember you praising Brownback on you radio show where he did an interview.
Your other big hero, Scott Walker, is only the 8th most hated governor per voters in his state, again, engaging in job killing wealth redistribution to the rich right wing policies.
You know who is doing well, Governor Dayton! Applying liberal policies and governance. Minnesota is doing well by a variety of metrics.
Conservatives have some fine qualities but good governance is not one of them.
“try conservative governance for a generation or so”
Hard to do with the MN-GOP as the alternative choice.
There are some good conservatives in the Party, and even some good moderates. But somehow, when it comes to the Governor’s office, we always get the RINOs.
DG,
I”m going to approve your comment, partly for comic relief, and partly as an object lesson for why I’ve taken to holding your comments in moderation.
I don’t think you can rationally criticize division given the fractures among Republicans.
Why on earth do you think I can’t criticize Democrats if Republicans aren’t “perfect?”
And wouldn’t it preclude you criticizing Republicans?
And you suggestion to try conned – servative government is a joke.
I remember when you at least attemped the occasional run at “facts”. Badly chosen facts that were easily rebutted – but better than “conned-servative”.
Your buddy Sam Brown back who scammed Kansas conservatives into that proposition of trying conservative government has a terrible outcome after pursuing Republican policies.
And right there, DG – further proof you don’t actually read what you “write” about. As I noted – liberals jabber like trained chimps about Kansas, where they implemented a plan dependent on growth in ag – which didn’t grow. Big mistake.
But as I pointed out elsewhere – that’s Kansas. Why do you people never look at the Dakotas, which are doing much better than MN? At virtually every other state west of the Mississippi?
Because your point (I’ll be charitable and assume you have one) collapses!
I seem to remember you praising Brownback on you radio show where he did an interview.
Not sure I ever “praised” Brownback, and I have NEVER had him on my show.
You’re making things up again.
Your other big hero, Scott Walker, is only the 8th most hated governor per voters in his state, again, engaging in job killing wealth redistribution to the rich right wing policies.
Hey! Did you see the numbers? Wisconsin’s Unemployment rate (3.7%) is Lower Than Minnesota’s (4.0) this month!
And Kansas’ unemployment rate this month is the same as Minnesota’s!
As usual, DG, you are making things up, and doing it badly.
(However, I am proud to say I did interview Governor Walker – and in 2021 ,I hope to interview President Walker).
Sorry, DG.
And now – until you respond to my repeated requests, it’s back in the mod queue for you.
As in get back into your room, Doggy and stay there until you are told you can come out.
DG has obviously slipped the surly bonds of medication again
What is even more amazing, that she keeps writing into a vacuum. For every one comment Mitch lets out, there must be a dozen languishing in the pen never to see the light. JD, this more insight into the libturd thought process for you. Libturds exist in an echo chamber, they are not interested in a conversation, content just to throw shit against the wall to see if sticks.
I was amazed Emery and Dog Gone didn’t jump on these statistics as proof they were right all along. After years of misrule by Evil Republican Scott Walker, Wisconsin government is far worse for its people than Minnesota under Wise Benevolent Whoever-is-Pulling-Dayton’s-Strings-These-Days, because Wisconsin’s number is only 3.7 which is barely a B+, whereas Minnesota’s number is a Straight-A 4.0. So there!