Shot in the Dark

I’m Sure This Is A Surprise…

…to the clueless; Chicago – the city with all the gun control that “ProtectMN” and Michael Bloomberg want (with the possible exception of “the disarmament of everyone else”) is seeing violence at a record clip:

July 2016 was the “deadliest July in 10 years” for heavily gun-controlled Chicago: Sixty-five individuals were shot and killed.
Moreover, according to the Chicago Tribune, such death figures do not set a new record — they simply tie a record set in 2006, when 65 individuals were killed in the month of July. This brings Chicago’s homicide total to “nearly 400” for the first seven months of 2016 alone. The number of homicides for the whole year of 2015 was 490.

“Assault weapons” are banned.  It’s exceptionally difficult for a law-abiding citizen to get a carry permit (although two of them have prevented mass shootings in the past couple of years alone); gun stores are essentially banned.   There is no way to measure the ratio of guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens to criminals, but it has to be among the lowest in the country.

This is the world Nancy Nord Bence wants to bring you.

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21 responses to “I’m Sure This Is A Surprise…”

  1. DMA Avatar
    DMA

    Mirengoff reports that 20-25% of the people that BO commuted sentences were in for Gun crimes.

  2. swiftee Avatar
    swiftee

    Chicago has replaced Detroit as the most dangerous, Deep Blue city in America. That should make the Community Organizer in Chief proud.

  3. Mitch Berg Avatar
    Mitch Berg

    Well, if you go by citywide per-capita murder rates, Chicago is down the list a bit.

    But like most cities, the crime is concentrated in several neighborhoods.

  4. swiftee Avatar
    swiftee

    Well, yeah. Most people have fled Detroit…I mean, why would a moocher stick around; that bone is picked clean. Although it’s on it’s way, Chicago hasn’t gone bankrupt yet, so there are still mobs of public union employees fighting over the scraps which keeps the moochers around, too.

  5. Joe Doakes Avatar
    Joe Doakes

    Per-capita rates are misleading.

    If the Village of Two Spoons has 100 residents and one shoots her husband, that’s a per capita rate of 1-per-100 which is the same as North Minneapolis.

    But would you be afraid to walk around the neighborhood after dark?

  6. Mitch Berg Avatar
    Mitch Berg

    Actually, it’d be 10 times higher than NOMPLS, whose murder rate is 100/100,000, rather than 1/100 (which is 1,000/100,000).

    If Two Spoons had a population of 1,000, one murder would yield the same murder rate as NOMPLS.

  7. kel Avatar
    kel

    “A breakdown of the month’s idiocy in Chicago shows:
    66 shot & killed
    2 stabbed in self defense
    4 ongoing “death investigations”
    5 police-involved shootings, 2 fatal
    382 shot and wounded
    66 in serious or critical condition
    64 males killed vs 7 females
    98 teenagers shot, 16 killed
    17 grazed
    1 selfie
    22 #ShotInTheAss    ”

    from: http://heyjackass.com/

    Last year Chicago had 56 shot and killed – already in August of this year 5 have been shot and killed – who knows maybe they’ll break last year’s count though hopefully they won’t match or exceed the 122 shot and killed in August of 1991

  8. justplainangry Avatar
    justplainangry

    66 shot & killed vs 64 males killed vs 7 females

    5 were killed twice?

  9. bikebubba Avatar
    bikebubba

    JPA: keep in mind that the average reading level of a Chicago Public grad is the 6th grade. I would reckon their math skills are similar.

  10. kel Avatar
    kel

    “5 were killed twice?”

    total homicides of all kinds for July was 71 – I think they mixed and matched the 71 homicides with the 66 gunshot homicides

  11. Joe Doakes Avatar
    Joe Doakes

    Good catch, Mitch. And thanks for helping me make my point: nobody would be terrified to walk around Two Spoons after dark, even with a per-capita murder rate 10 times higher than North Minneapolis, because the raw statistics don’t adequately convey the risk of being murdered.

  12. Dog Gone Avatar
    Dog Gone

    DG,

    We seem to have a failure to communicate, here.

    You’re still dumping comments and running, rather than discussing – treating my comment section like your blog. Just as bad? Your version of “discussing” is to continue subjects you prefer into unrelated threads.

    it’s not acceptable. And everyone else – even “Penigma” – seems to get it. Why not you?

    So until your behavior improves, I’m going back to whiting out your comments.

    And you also need to answer a question or two, here:

    • Many years ago, you claimed that Salem Twin Cities was in imminent danger of being sued into receivership, because of a scam being run by one of its paid programs. You made a big show of how one of your neighbors – an expert in corporate law, but naturally nobody we could talk to, of course – backing you up on this.
      . So – whatever became of that? That was at least seven years ago; any updates?
    • Earlier this week, you claimed that states with “tougher gun control laws” had lower crime rates. Please provide a cite, so that I can inevitably show how it’s at best wrong, and at worst just another chanting point designed to gull the feeble-witted.

    I could find a lot more, but I have a life.

    God bless ya, DG, but I’m calling BS on you. Again.
    —————


    ”
    And yet there are all those many other places with WORSE stats and less gun control.

    You never address why that is — why so many guns in those many cities with worse gun violence records are such failures. Or why those states that have state-wide as distinct from only city-wide gun regulation are safer and have SO much less gun violence.

    And you never address why and how it is that those countries that have effective gun regulation more strict than the USA have less gun crime and less gun violence.

    That would be because gun control WORKS.

    But I suppose it is NO SURPRISE that you’d rather focus on this topic, the dead horse beating so to speak, than this story about how the GOP is losing the WH AND looking to lose the Senate, and either lose the House, or at least suffer serious losses to their majority — maybe even lose Paul Ryan?

    No. Much better to beat dead horses with factually deficient numbers to propagandize the willing dupes.

    http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/2132036-polls-show-clinton-ahead-of-trump-in-arizona-and-3-swing-states/

    ———-

    I may answer your comment – and then again, under the circumstances, I may ignore it.

  13. Dog Gone Avatar
    Dog Gone

    DG,

    Not that you deserve a serious response, but…:
    —————

    ——–=–

    There is a very good reason I give you grief for ever quoting Breitbart as if it were a legitimate news source instead of a tabloid propaganda rag: Legit news sources don’t do this kind of thing, and handle errors very differently than Breitbart.

    I’m sure this is a ‘surprise’ too:
    Breitbart Caught Passing Off Photo Of Cleveland’s NBA Championship Parade As Image Of Trump’s Jacksonville Rally

    Breitbart Subsequently Changed Image, But Did Not Issue Correction

    UPDATE: Breitbart Issues Correction Blaming “Social Media”

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/08/03/breitbart-caught-passing-photo-cleveland-s-nba-championship-parade-image-trumps-jacksonville-rally/212174

    ———-

    “there is a very good reason I give you grief over using Breitbart…”

    No, there’s just a reason. You’re using a logical fallacy – the “appeal to authority”. You can’t address the facts of an argument (you never, ever can), so you address the source.

    While Breitbart ain’t what it used to be, saying “that’s just Breitbart” is a feeble “argument”. Address the facts.

    If you can.

    Which you never, ever can.

  14. Dog Gone Avatar
    Dog Gone

    DG,

    We seem to have a failure to communicate, here.

    You’re still dumping comments and running, rather than discussing – treating my comment section like your blog. Just as bad? Your version of “discussing” is to continue subjects you prefer into unrelated threads.

    it’s not acceptable. And everyone else – even “Penigma” – seems to get it. Why not you?

    So until your behavior improves, I’m going back to whiting out your comments.

    And you also need to answer a question or two, here:

    • Many years ago, you claimed that Salem Twin Cities was in imminent danger of being sued into receivership, because of a scam being run by one of its paid programs. You made a big show of how one of your neighbors – an expert in corporate law, but naturally nobody we could talk to, of course – backing you up on this.
      . So – whatever became of that? That was at least seven years ago; any updates?
    • Earlier this week, you claimed that states with “tougher gun control laws” had lower crime rates. Please provide a cite, so that I can inevitably show how it’s at best wrong, and at worst just another chanting point designed to gull the feeble-witted.

    I could find a lot more, but I have a life.

    God bless ya, DG, but I’m calling BS on you. Again.
    —————

    ———-
    Looking at the FBI stats from October 2015, the most recent available.

    Big Cities With The Highest Violent Crime Rates

    Detroit, Michigan 1988.63
    Memphis, Tennessee 1740.51
    Oakland, California 1685.39
    St. Louis, Missouri 1678.73
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin 1476.41
    Baltimore, Maryland 1338.54
    Cleveland, Ohio 1334.35
    Stockton, California 1331.47
    Indianapolis, Indiana 1254.66
    Kansas City, Missouri 1251.45

    Nope. Don’t see Chicago.

    Big Cities With The Highest Murder Rates

    St. Louis, Missouri 49.91
    Detroit, Michigan 43.52
    New Orleans, Louisiana 38.75
    Baltimore, Maryland 33.84
    Newark, New Jersey 33.32
    Buffalo, New York 23.22
    Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 22.43
    Memphis, Tennessee 21.38
    Atlanta, Georgia 20.47
    Cincinati, Ohio 20.16

    Nope. Don’t see Chicago. FYI — Chicago had a murder rate of 15.09 for comparison.

    Medium Cities With The Highest Murder Rates

    Jackson, Mississippi 35.39
    Birmingham, Alabama 24.52
    Baton Rouge, Louisiana 23.11
    North Charleston, South Carolina 21.78
    Little Rock, Arkanasas 21.69
    San Bernardino, California 20.04
    Richmond, Virginia 18.92
    Dayton, Ohio 18.85
    Inglewood, California 17.86
    Montgomery, Alabama 17.48

    Small Cities With The Highest Murder Rates

    East St Louis, Illinois 101.8
    Chester, Pennsylvania 88.09
    Muskegon Heights, Michigan 73.9
    Helena-West Helena, Arkansas 61.34
    College Park, Georgia 60.89
    Lumberto, North Carolina 50.28
    Gary, Indiana 47.43
    Riviera Beach, Florida 38.87
    Eunice, Louisiana 38.73
    Trenton, New Jersey 37.95

    and again — looking at the Chicago figure, for comparison:

    Weldon, North Carolina 311.72
    Welsston, Missouri 256.73
    Mangonia Park, Florida 153.77
    Alturas, California 152.96
    Hawkins, Texas 149.93
    Arcola, Texas 122.17
    Lockland, Ohio 116.48
    Cairo, Illinois 116.28
    Lake City, Georgia 113.9
    Quitman, Texas 110.44

    The numbers are per 100,000 people.

    The numbers do NOT support your premise. Sad to be you.

    ———-

    Not that you deserve a response – but I’ve written about these numbers over and over again.

    Chicago’s murder rate is “low” overall (in the 16/100,000 range), but intensely concentrated in several southside neighborhoods. As I’ve noted constantly.

    As I pointed out in this blog last year, level of gun control has relatively little to do with crime. Stiff gun control does little to control crime; liberal gun control doesn’t create more of is. EVER.

    What DOES seem to be directly correlated with major-city violent crime? Decades of corrupt, exploitive Democrat control.

    (You’ll also notice the smaller cities are in the deep south – which shares several cultural pathologies with major cities. I’ve been writing about this for years. An explanation would be wasted on you, DG, since – let’s be honest – all you do is parrot whatever chanting points come out at the top of a google search.

    So – do I need to block you to get the point across?

  15. Mitch Berg Avatar
    Mitch Berg

    Oh, yeah, DG:

    Pretty much every point of your premise, I shredded to a fault in this series last winter.

    Read it. You might learn something.

  16. swiftee Avatar
    swiftee

    Did that ignorant waste of flesh just use MediaMatters to discredit Brietbart’s cred???

    And you let her post it???

  17. kel Avatar
    kel

    Not only do the following big cities have a high crime rate in common they have something else in common:

    Detroit, Michigan 1988.63 – Democrat govt
    Memphis, Tennessee 1740.51 – Democrat govt
    Oakland, California 1685.39 – Democrat govt
    St. Louis, Missouri 1678.73 – Democrat govt
    Milwaukee, Wisconsin 1476.41 – Democrat govt
    Baltimore, Maryland 1338.54 – Democrat govt
    Cleveland, Ohio 1334.35 – Democrat govt
    Kansas City, Missouri 1251.45 – Democrat govt

  18. Mitch Berg Avatar
    Mitch Berg

    And you let her post it???

    You get comic relief where you can in this life.

  19. justplainangry Avatar
    justplainangry

    kel, better put on your earmuffs. Dogpile’s silence to address your assertion will be deafening.

  20. bosshoss429 Avatar
    bosshoss429

    kel,

    Once again proving beyond any shadow of a doubt, that everything DemonRATs touch, turns to shit!

  21. Bill C Avatar
    Bill C

    Is DG posting Amazon book reviews now? Sure sounds like her style of “writing”:

    https://www.amazon.com/War-Guns-Yourself-Against-Control/product-reviews/1621575802/ref=cm_cr_othr_d_hist_1?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&sortBy=recent&filterByStar=one_star&pageNumber=1#R11IO7W3HC5FK3

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