Falling Far Behind

Whenever the subject of Islamicist terror is brought up, the left and media (ptr) springs to action to remind us that domestic “right wing terror”, which is just around the corner (we are constantly assured.

Someday.

Honest.

And who knows?  It could happen!

But if “the right” – with about four incidents of lethal terror in the past 25 years – is going to be much much worse. it’s going to pass Islamicist terror, they’re going to have to get hoofing to make up the numbers from this year alone.

45 thoughts on “Falling Far Behind

  1. Turns out Mateen wasn’t gay, and he did not attack the patrons of the Pulse club because he was a homophobe: “FBI has found no evidence so far that Orlando shooter targeted Pulse because it was a gay club”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/no-evidence-so-far-to-suggest-orlando-shooter-targeted-club-because-it-was-gay/2016/07/14/a7528674-4907-11e6-acbc-4d4870a079da_story.html
    What possibly could have been his motive? Gosh, it is a real mystery.

  2. But Mitch, we all saw the violent riots the Tea Party engaged in, in stark contrast to the peaceful, loving BLM and Occupy protests! Surely it is the wingnuts who are constantly degrading our political discussions! Surely it’s the right wingers who are dividing us and diverting our attention from those who are the real threats in our midst rather than uniting us as was done post-9/11!

  3. I blame the SPLC (Southern Poverty law Center) for a lot of the false equivalence between ‘right-wing terror’ and Islamist terror. The SPLC is basically a fund raising outfit, the benefits going to the Leftist lawyers who make up its staff. They need to keep their donors, mostly east and west coast liberals, in a constant state of fear over Bubba and the KKK.
    http://www.weeklystandard.com/king-fearmongers/article/714573

  4. Not only does the SPLC try to conflate right wing terror and Islamist terror, but they also have a rather expansive view of what constitutes being “right wing”. I looked through their list and it’s mostly Neo-Nazis; OK, wasn’t Schicklgruber’s party the “National Socialist Worker’s Party”? That’s on the right in about the same way that I’m expecting the Wobblies to start campaigning for Ted Cruz’s reelection.

  5. DG

    Alas, you’ve gone back to your old habits – making snide, dismissive, condescending claims that your facts (“ironically”) can’t support, and scampering away, thereby using my comment section as a metablog.

    I told you I wouldn’t tolerate it.

    So this time, in addition to needing you to start discussing the claims you make in my comment section, I’m going to need some answers from you.

    • You recently claimed you’d been “published” in the London School of Economics’ blog. I’ve asked you repeatedly; the “publication” was actually just a link to one of your articles on “Minnesota Progressive Project”. Am I correct? If not, please provide a link, either publicly or privately to me. You keep trying to stretch five pounds of bag over ten pounds of reality.
    • Another: many years ago, you claimed that Salem Twin Cities was in imminent danger of being sued into receivership, because of a scam being run by one of its paid programs. You made a big show of it, in fact. So – whatever became of that? That was at least seven years ago; any updates?
    • In 2012, you claimed that Rep. Cornish’s “Stand your Ground” bill – which passed both chambers of the legislature with a bipartisan majority – was “crap legislation”. When asked to substantiate the claim beyond the level of opinion, you provided some stats that, in fact, proved that Stand your Ground was excellent legislation that did exactly what I said it would; you just didn’t know any better. So – please either substantiate your claim with actual facts (and be prepared to defend your defense!), or admit you were talking out your ass

    I could find a lot more, but I have a life.

    God bless ya, DG, but I’m calling BS on you.

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    Wow do you have a short memory, and your counting is as bad as so-called Republican math which ignores actual numbers in favor of promoting failed ideology.

    Only four incidents of lethal terror? Really? I suggest you look closer, and I further suggest that terror incidents are not only defined by those that succeed, like the white supremacist in Charleston, SC a year ago last month, but also by those that attempt to kill large numbers of people but are prevented. THAT is the real risk, the attempts as well as the successes, combined.

    And Myke, powerline blog is not a reliable source for your statistics. You might want to look at other sources that mean something, beginning with those from Homeland Security, the FBI, other agencies when they testify to congress, etc.

    And no, I don’t see any rush by the left to bring up right wing terrorism in the face of the attacks in France. Rather the coverage seems pretty measured and accurate — but then I check Reuters and the BBC quite often, not Fox (not)News.


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    You start answering questions and stop metablogging, I’ll stop graying you out.

    (And don’t bother whining about me “being afraid of the facts”; your “argument” in all its woeful glory is untouched, ready for anyone with half a brain to dispatch with easy.

    It won’t be me tonight; I have a wedding to get to. Maybe tomorrow.

    Who knows – maybe you’ll respond to something, and I can un-gray you!

  6. Bento, the SPLC is a hate propaganda group. They are funded by people that find profit in maintaining an atmosphere of hatred, division and discontent; you know who they are.

  7. We’re all STILL waiting for a link to that London School of Economics piece you did, dog.

  8. SPLC…….one of the great scams of all time. Bernie Madoff is thinking “geesh, if I had thought of this, I’d be living the good life now instead of being in the pokey”.

    I see the Democrats are starting their quadrennial stories about how Republicans have a secret plan to eliminate social security. I’m amazed at how many old folks….I mean Senior-Americans…..fall for this. But I guess that is why members of the lefty party keep doing it.

  9. DG, you might not like Powerline given that they adhere to the truth more than you’d like, but we should point out that the list they gave was derived from a source that bends more towards your ideology, Wikipedia.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_battles_and_other_violent_events_by_death_toll#Terrorist_attacks

    I suggest you look closer, and I further suggest that terror incidents are not only defined by those that succeed, like the white supremacist in Charleston, SC a year ago last month, but also by those that attempt to kill large numbers of people but are prevented. THAT is the real risk, the attempts as well as the successes, combined.

    You really, really don’t want to go there, DG. The number of incidents of left-wing violence stopped in the planning stages far exceeds the few that you can quote. BTW, why is an avowedly socialist ideology like neo-Nazism called right wing, other than the fact that you don’t like it? Leftists claimed Nazis as good socialists up until the Nazis attacked the Soviets. Their economic and nearly all policy goals are socialist. And in any event, both are far, far exceeded by the number of Islamists stopped in the planning stage.

  10. DogGone, given that the party of slavery, the KKK, and Jim Crow was the Democrats, maybe give the assumption “white supremacist = conservative” a rest, OK? Yes, there are racists who kill people, both white and black and otherwise, but being a racist does not man a man’s also conservative.

  11. Hey DG, I’m interested in the London School of Economics link, would love to read your work.

  12. “FBI has found no evidence so far that Orlando shooter targeted Pulse because it was a gay club”

    The same non-politizied *GASP*Cough*hackhack*wheeze* FBI that stated, on record, that while her actions were negligent and illegal, due to her lack of intent, no reasonable prosecutor would file charges against Shrillary Kankles?

  13. I’m just surprised Mitch hasn’t doxxed her yet. The fact that she has to blog under a pseudonym is lame and cowardly. I’m aware that posting this under my pseudonym is a bit ironic but you all know who I am, I commented here for years under my real name.

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  15. “FBI has found no evidence so far that Orlando shooter targeted Pulse because it was a gay club”
    That’s what the FBI says. [shrugs] Apparently Mateen never told anyone that he was attacking Pulse because it was full of gays, and he used no gay slurs during the attack.

    Orlando Police Dispatcher: Emergency 911, this is being recorded.

    Omar Mateen: In the name of God the Merciful, the beneficent [said in Arabic]

    OD: What?

    OM: Praise be to God, and prayers as well as peace be upon the prophet of God [said in Arabic]. I wanna let you know, I’m in Orlando and I did the shootings.

    OD: What’s your name?

    OM: My name is I pledge of allegiance to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi of the Islamic State.

    OD: Ok, What’s your name?

    OM: I pledge allegiance to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi may God protect him [said in Arabic], on behalf of the Islamic State.

    OD: Alright, where are you at?

    OM: In Orlando.

    OD: Where in Orlando?

    [End of call.]

    Lynch wanted to redact Mateen’s pledge to Isis and al-Baghdadi. Here is what the transcript would look like with references to Allah, Islam, ISIS, and :al-Baghdadi censored.

    OM: [redacted]

    OD: What’s your name?

    OM: [redacted]

    OD: Ok, What’s your name?

    OM: [redacted]
    OD: Alright, where are you at?

    OM: In Orlando.

    OD: Where in Orlando?

    [End of call.]

  16. DG,

    While “appeal to authority” is a logical fallacy, having you, an anonymous blogger from a fever-swamp blog with a reputation for talking way out of her depth, poo-poohing Powerline (who’ve built a decade-and-a-half reputation for accuracy, and who have Dan Rather and Mary Mapes’ scalps on their wall to prove it) written by three lawyers and a real journalist – people who earn a living being accurate about things, unlike you – is low humor indeed.

  17. BG: When a man grows up in your country, and decides to commit suicide while taking as many of his fellow citizens as he can, that’s your problem, not some other country’s. Borders won’t fix it, and that minority population isn’t going away. They are a mostly native-born part of the country, and the country as a whole needs to come to terms with them. Outside of North Korea, we don’t have countries with only one ethnic group anymore. Welcome to the 21st century.

  18. Only a fool, Emery, doesn’t turn around when it is clear that they’ve taken a wrong turn.

  19. “Outside of North Korea, we don’t have countries with only one ethnic group anymore. “
    including North Korea which has small ethnic communities of Chinese and Japanese.

  20. The Trumpers like to criticize the ‘elites.’ The word “elite” usually means something like “best of a group.” Elite baseball players, elite soldiers, etc.
    I will not vote for Trump because I am a conservative, not a Republican. I will vote Constitution Party this year, but I sympathize with the Trumpers’ disgust with elites. Political elites aren’t like elite brain surgeons or elite guitar players. They are self-selected, because no one else wants them for anything.
    There is an elite neurosurgeon named Spetzler. He did academic work at universities in the US and Europe. Spetzler pioneered a few advanced techniques, such as operating on the patient while he/she was conscious, and also developed surgical techniques that would work while the patient was in an induced ‘death.’ Spetzler ran the neurosurgery programs at a few prestigious medical schools in the US.
    Okay. Spetlzer is a true elite.
    Then there is an elite like Tony Blair.
    I have nothing against Blair. Might like him if I met him.
    Blair came from a bourgeois family in Scotland. Private schools for all of his life, graduated in the middle of his pre-law class at Oxford in ’75. He got a law degree. Worked his way up in Labour party politics by avoiding identification with any particular faction.
    There is no reason whatsoever to believe that Blair has any more insight on immigration, the economy, or the environment, than any random person you would pick off the street in Edinburgh, Scotland, or Saint Paul, Minnesota. Blair is an elite because he mastered the art of politics, not because he knows anything about immigration, economics, or the environment.
    The idea that Blair is an elite because he knows how to listen to experts is ludicrous. There is nothing about Blair’s bio that would lead a reasonable person to believe that he had any special skill in critical thought.

  21. A native born Frenchman, son of Tunisian immigrants, commits an act of terror with malice aforethought on the streets of Nice.
    A native born American son of Afghan parents, commits an act of terror with malice aforethought on the streets of Orlando.
    A native born American, son of black parents, commits an act of terror with malice aforethought on the streets of Dallas.
    Should America build camps to guard young black and Muslim men and restrict movement across its borders of blacks who might give birth to terrorists? Or should it look to its black community and try to find solutions to their sense of alienation?
    Should France build camps to guard young Muslim men and restrict movement across its borders of Muslims who might give birth to terrorists? Or should it look to its Muslim community and try to find solutions to their sense of alienation?

    I think we’re more likely to find solutions at home.

  22. “I think we’re more likely to find solutions at home.”

    Yes, but you never offer solutions, only plagiarized critiques.

  23. I’d rather listen to you repeat yourself over and over and over and over and over. Jokes get more funny with repetition. Everybody knows that. Still, you’re more entertaining than yawn.

  24. I think we’re more likely to find solutions at home.

    Well, your reading of the data would lead you to that conclusions. I think it’s a false one.

    The “domestic” terrorists you note are native children of immigrants who, for whatever reason, have gone sour on their homelands. Many of them – including to my knowledge most of the recent terrorists in France – were children or grandchildren of previous waves of refugees, from violence in Algeria, Morocco and Tunisia. They’ve had time – a generation or two – to develop the connections that led both to a life in the new country and, eventually, driving them to terror.

    The newbies are still working on food and shelter and, in some cases, not raping people at will. Unless they’re blatant sleepers, “cultural alienation” is a ways away in the future.

  25. Sadly, radical Islamic terrorism will stop when it goes out of style, just as Anarchist terrorism eventually went out of style a century ago. It is Nihilistic, and Nihilists eventually destroy themselves. Something like the European 30 years war is playing out in the Middle East right now, which provides the energy to sustain this terrorism. Terrorism is not an existential threat to our countries, but it is corrosive to our cherished liberty to have to defend against it. Unfortunately we may have to wait for the Islamic world to sort itself out to see the end of it.

  26. Anarchist terrorism went out of style because the anarchists were either killed or coopted by the Stalinists. There are still boutique anarchists.
    In the old days anarchists were usually syndicalists. They thought the largest unit of government should be the trade union (Orwell’s beloved POUM was syndicalist). These days anarchists tend to be college students.

  27. In this video Neil DeGrasse Tyson places the end of the Islamic golden age before the Mongol invasions and assigns much of the blame to an Imam named Hamid al-Ghazali who claimed mathematics was the devil’s work. And as we know: “nothing good can come from that kind of philosophy”.

    Neil DeGrasse Tyson – The Islamic Golden Age: Naming Rights
    https://youtu.be/fDAT98eEN5Q

  28. “Anarchist terrorism went out of style because the anarchists were either killed or [co-opted] by the Stalinists.” Fair enough.

    I like to think of ISIS, al Qaeda, the Taliban as clouds floating across the sky. And we are like great anti-aircraft guns accurately shooting holes in those clouds. The clouds continue on their merry way and we continue to congratulate ourselves for what great shots we are. In the meantime the low pressure from whence the clouds come from continues to build.

  29. Islamic Turks laid siege to Vienna in the late 17th century.
    Tyson is not a historian. Tyson is a scientist. He thinks that every human problem is the result of non-scientific thought or badly done science. Carl Sagan thought much the same thing.

  30. Emery shuffles off to search the web for something that sounds smart…. Eureka! Whips out Neil DeGrasse Tysen.

    Lmao..

  31. A continued low oil price is a better deterrence to terrorism than any security measure or attack on ISIS. We should all get busy hydro-fracturing to force reform on the Saudis and Qataris.

  32. Not for people without a brain. Just a reasonable facsimile propped up by other people’s thoughts.

  33. It is also quite telling that eTASS is using Tyson to bolster “his” point of view. Yes, the Tyson of fabricated quotes. That Tyson.

  34. Really? Jezuz Emery…does it ever stop?

    Look at the bright side, Swiftee — as far as I can tell, he hasn’t plagiarized Dog or Peevee yet.

  35. Mr. D., I’m beginning to believe that dog, teh peevee and Emery are three kooks living in the same skull, each both sharing and displaying their own unique mental dysfunctions.

    Can Mitch say he’s ever seen all three in the same room at the same time?

  36. Can Mitch say he’s ever seen all three in the same room at the same time?

    I hope not. The room would subsequently require a visit from the Board of Health.

  37. Although I appreciate MBerg’s generous stipend, there is no implied exclusive with regard to my comments.

  38. Can Mitch say he’s ever seen all three in the same room at the same time?

    I have seen Pen and DG in the same room at the same time.

    I’ve never met Em, but the “tells” in the writing style are pretty drastically different. Pretty sure Em is a different person.

  39. Emery wrote:

    “there is no implied exclusive with regard to my comments”

    So you either enjoy plagiarizing or repeating yourself? I say “you sound like an infomercial, but not a good one like Slapchop, more Shake Weighty”.

  40. there is no implied exclusive with regard to my comments.

    Oh bullshit Emery. We’ve all found the primary source of “your” quotes in news articles, web sites, and comments; some being years old. Either you have a writing resume that would make dog’s head spin (in which case we have to wonder why you spend so much time posting mindless twaddle here), or you’re doing what all leftists do when confronted with their lying bullshit: Lie some more.

    I think everyone is clear on where you stand.

  41. I’ve never met Em, but the “tells” in the writing style are pretty drastically different.

    Right. That is what gives lie to Emery’s bullshit. I can immediately tell when he’s plagiarizing someone else, because while it may not make sense, or be apropos of nothing, it is usually a coherent thought a opposed to his scatter brained twaddle.

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