Lately, the left has been making the following fairly fantastic claim:
I’ve heard this a few times – and it gave me one of my customarily-brilliant ideas.
I challenge the Reverend Nancy Nord Bence, Joan Peterson, and any other leaders of “Everytown”, “Moms Want Action” and “Protect” MN to meet me in North Minneapolis or Dayton’s Bluff…
(you may have to Google them, since you don’t seem to have any of your gun violence protests in either place)
…and play what I call “The Meme Scavenger Hunt”.
The goal is this: They’ll drop us in the neighborhood. My mission: find a book. Your mission: find a gun. First one to find the book or gun wins; loser buys dinner for the winner.
Any action on that challenge?
DG,
Alas, you’ve gone back to your old habits – making snide, dismissive, condescending claims that your facts (“ironically”) can’t support, and scampering away, thereby using my comment section as a metablog.
I told you I wouldn’t tolerate it.
So this time, in addition to needing you to start discussing the claims you make in my comment section, I’m going to need some answers from you.
. So – whatever became of that? That was at least seven years ago; any updates?
I could find a lot more, but I have a life.
God bless ya, DG, but I’m calling BS on you.
First to find doesn’t mean anything though does it Mitch?
It’s not first, it is how many one finds that matters; and then we need to consider the relative impact of both. For example, guns don’t change much depending on their age, as a general thing. Books, on the other hand do; notably text books.
You are I’m sure smarting at the taking to task of open carry interference with police function in Dallas, as well as Open Carry Texas admitting that they have no business shooting in an active shooter situation (which destroys the whole good guy with a gun premise, but does explain all those gun toters running away), and lastly the admission that once an open carry person starts shooting that BOTH the good guys and the active shooter will be shooting at the open carry defensive shooter..
So in other words, even your open carry crowd are acknowledging the failure of the good guy with a gun premise.
Fewer and fewer people are owning guns, with more of those few owning more and more firearms, some to the point of arsenals.
Every gun in the hands of criminals started out as a legal weapon; apparently then it is obvious for criminals to have guns there is a massive failure of legal gun owners to keep their weapons secure. And that is on top of all the good guy with a gun owners who end up in domestic violence situations, femicide, murder suicides or with their firearms involved in the accidental deaths of children.
Your arguments are failing Mitch. But that is what I would expect from someone who discourages critical thinking by pushing derogatory stereotypes about groups of people you identify as ‘other’. Wonder why conservatives get called bigots and sometimes racist? That is why – the broad derogatory stereotypes of groups you identify as other or outsiders. Propaganda relies on replacing critical thinking – as you have done here, and as you did yesterday with your post about so-called vacuous hipsters – with emotional appeals to flawed premises that are factually deficient or otherwise inaccurate.
I will be happy to pass on your challenge to the people I know at Protect MN. My challenge to you — are you willing to accept the challenge of which are more numerous and which have a greater affect on the communities in question, guns or book? Because that is the fair and honest challenge, not yours.
You don’t know anyone at PM, so I won’t wait up.
You have been asked three questions. Please see to it.
I will be happy to pass on your challenge to the people I know at Protect MN.
LOL! That is pretty funny, you poor thing.
Unfortunately, racist, self-loathing leftist scumbags and grasping poverty pimps would rather lie down on the freeway than protest in black neighborhoods. Tells you all you need to know.
Hey, I know…why don’t YOU go up to North Mpls, dog? Yeah sure, tell all those moochers, gangbangers and parolees up there you need a piece for a couple minutes.
Dog Gone wrote:
“You are I’m sure smarting at the taking to task of open carry interference with police function in Dallas”
So a citizens legal right interferes with a police function, and that is supposed to “smart”? Don’t be stupid. Or at least pretend.
Hey dog, after you teach Mitch a lesson, you should write a lengthy piece about your Social Justice adventures in the leafy confines of North Minneapolis. Maybe your lost 99,999 readers would return… and, hey, you know I bet Time magazine would publish it!
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Apparently our President (and DG) are unfamiliar with libraries.
DG,
Before I respond to the rest of your fairly vaporous diatribe, I gotta ask:
Did you respond to my question yesterday? I pointed out that while I can’t find an “article” of yours published on the LSE blog, I found a link to one of your articles. It’s factually wrong (to be charitable) to say the LSE “published” you.
Please respond, or I will start graying your comments out again.
I can put up with the unearned condescension; it’s funny, like watching a kid bragging about how strong they are.
But refusing to discuss your claims is getting very old.
Your choice.
Yes, indeed. We are all waiting, dog, to read your piece published by the prestigious London School of Economics. We are starved for knowledge, darlin’. Please do provide us poor white men with a link to your fountain of progressive, female wisdom!
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Say dog? Is it fair to describe poorly educated, sociopathic liars as others? Is there a PC term for your ilk? How shall we kindly refer to you and teh peevee?
Dog, were you ever a Navy SEAL?
One might actually flip this one around for greater effect. Yes, it’s easier for a teen to get a gun in many cities than it is to get a book, and that’s because those cities are run by liberals who refuse to put criminals in jail, and the resulting costs to the city end up getting libraries closed. Hence a teen can get that illegal pistol far easier than he can find a legal book.
Of course, it also doesn’t help that the federal government destroyed black families through atrocities like AFDC, keeping the guy who would have taken the pistol and given his son a book out of the picture.
OK, and this implicates the NRA exactly how?
And books change with age in a way guns don’t? Say what? Sorry, but I start each day by reading a 1599 translation of a book whose original manuscripts were completed in the 1st century AD. Not too many gun owners have a weapon in their collection based on a 1599 design, to put it mildly. Sorry, but there are a lot of worthwhile books whose writing predates the design of most modern weapons.
DG,
OK, I’ll respond to what may be your last un-grayed comment for a while, if you don’t stop exploiting my hospitality:
First to find doesn’t mean anything though does it Mitch?
How about you let the President, or the Rev. Nord Bence, move their own goalposts?
You are I’m sure smarting at the taking to task of open carry interference with police function in Dallas, as well as Open Carry Texas admitting that they have no business shooting in an active shooter situation
ARE YOU F****NG NUTS? The open carriers on the scene did what they were supposed to do, and they “admitted” the fact that every carrier knows; when the cops are there (to say nothing of the target), one does well to stay out of the way.
You are betraying your cataclysmic ignorance.
(which destroys the whole good guy with a gun premise,
Wrong again. It shows that these good guys know the rules.
Unlike, as usual, you.
but does explain all those gun toters running away),
It’s what they’re supposed to do!
I hate to get coarse, DG (and thankfully, you let that cow out of the barn years ago), but you’re completely full of shit.
I will be happy to pass on your challenge to the people I know at Protect MN.
Do you “know” people at “P”M the same way you “were published” at LSE? Or are you actually telling the truth?
But if you do, by all means pass the challenge on.
They won’t take it. They’re scared to death of head-to-head debate and challenges. Because we always win.
My challenge to you…
No. You answer my questions, and respond to the challenges to your own “facts”, before you go making challenges here.
You are not up to it.
You need to start responding, or I start graying you out again.
And this time there’s going to be a new wrinkle.
DG,
I’m going to risk partially repeating myself to further reinforce the audience’s impression of the crushing ignorance behind your bigoted chortling.
In carry permit training, you are taught that a permit does NOT make you a junior lawman. When the cops are on the scene, you make your guns scarce – both because it’s not your job, and for your own safety.
When they moved out of the way, they did what they were supposed to do.
That you think the civilian carriers, open or concealed, in Dallas had any other motivation shows your cataclysmic obliviousness to fact.
If there was ever a time for some cut and paste plagiarizing in defense of a fellow sociopathic, leftist reprobate, this is it, Emery.
No, no, no, Mitch, you’re completely missing the President’s point. He wasn’t talking about the easy availability of handguns and therefore a need for gun control; he was talking about the unavailability of computers and books and therefore the desperate need for more public libraries. The handgun thing was just a point of comparison for hyperbole, like “It’s easier for a child to find unhealthy fried chicken in North Minneapolis than to find healthy tofu.” That doesn’t mean the speaker is against fried chicken, it’s a way to illustrate the scarcity of tofu restaurants.
DG would the following also apply?
Every CAR in the hands of criminals started out as a legal CAR; apparently then it is obvious for criminals to have CARS there is a massive failure of legal CAR owners to keep their CARS secure.
pfft!!!
Scott Hughes – be careful, you don’t want to go too far down that road, else you end up wondering “So using Dog Gone’s blame-the-victim logic, then every co-ed who drinks until she passes out at a frat party and gets raped is at fault because the woman failed . . . ” and that’s all it will take for the wrath of the entire world to descend on you.
In dog’s Matrix fantasy, she is Ginger Rogers, dancing to tumultuous applause and adoration. What the real world sees is a toothless, skanky old stripper everyone is throwing beer cans and flicking cigarettes at.
“a toothless, skanky old stripper…”
nothing worse than a stripper with pretensions.
“Fewer and fewer people are owning guns, with more of those few owning more and more firearms, some to the point of arsenals.”
Dog breath, this utterly false statement proves that you are absolutely the dimmest, dumbest moron ever. Well, next to the morons like you, Mikey “Commie” Paymar, dumb ass Heather Martens and the rest of the worthless toads that cal themselves Democrats.
Really, shit for brains, you need to give your parents back the money that they pissed away on your education, because you obviously didn’t learn a damned thing!
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Every smart phone on the street IS a computer. So all those kids in the hood making videos of smoking dope or sucker punching people have more computing power than the first Macintosh. Problem is, which DG and her buddies can’t/won’t acknowledge is that there is no cure for stupid.
Fewer and fewer people are owning guns, with more of those few owning more and more firearms, some to the point of arsenals.
Care to back that up with a link to a an unbiased source? Because it seems to contradict stories like these:
http://kdvr.com/2016/06/14/gun-sales-surge-after-orlando-shooting/
https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/06/16/gun-sales-soar-as-gay-community-arms-itself-in-orlando-aftermath/
After the shooting at the Orlando nightclub, member of the GLBT community realized that when seconds count, the police are minutes away.
So in other words, even your open carry crowd are acknowledging the failure of the good guy with a gun premise
Well, no. The premise still applies. There were uniformed police already on scene. They were the good guys with guns. In a situation where the police are not on-scene and until they are, armed citizens become the only thing standing between a shooter and his/her victims. If you don’t comprehend this distinction, please tell your educational institution that you were robbed.
Your arguments are failing Mitch.
DG, who are you trying to convince with this grade-school debate style? Others, or yourself?
Wonder why conservatives get called bigots and sometimes racist?
Usually happens when the opposition can’t refute the logic and resorts to name-calling. Case in point.