A Little Trouble

I’m not sure a lot of people on the left really understand what the Hillary Clinton email scandal entails.

And I’m not sure reading this excellent synopsis by Deroy Murdock will help – because if there’s anything liberals “get” less than economics, it’s intelligence.

But for those with ears to hear, Murdock’s piece is pretty damning.  Some of the consequences of having a foreign power “out” a “Special Action Program”:

  1. Intel officers responsible for those programs must be alerted.
  2. Once alerted that SAP was mishandled and on a system that has been attacked, it is only prudent to end those programs.
  3. What does ending those programs mean? Depending on the SAP involved, it could mean redoing war plans, terminating ongoing covert actions, rethinking how the exposed covert actions must be done and executing on that new plan, or, if it reveals a source, removing that source from his environment.
  4. That has a significant impact. Presume, if you will, that it was a source. If that source were providing intel of such value that it rose to the SecState, now we’ve lost that source.
  5. Intel officers care about their sources, and for two reasons. One, we’re human beings. We don’t want those assisting us and our country to be hurt, even though we recognize the danger in which they are placing themselves. Two, the business model doesn’t work very well if sources think they’ll be outed. The US intel community already has so much trouble in that regard due to Edward Snowden and Bradley [now Chelsea] Manning. This just compounds it. Think about the next meeting between a prospective source and a CIA case officer trying to recruit that source to risk his/her life for the United States: “Are you sure a high-level official won’t out me?”

Read the whole thing.

And give it to your liberal friends.  See if the eyes glaze over with incomprehension.

12 thoughts on “A Little Trouble

  1. C’mon, Mitch!

    You’re giving libidiots far too much credit. As soon as facts are involved, their minds go blank.

  2. Ask a liberal if she remembers how outraged she was when Valerie Plame, a CIA desk jockey and bon vivant, was “outed” by a columnist. Poor Val couldn’t go to the Safeway in Alexandria anymore.

  3. from Wikipedia: “In October 2005, Libby was indicted by a federal grand jury concerning the investigation of the leak of the covert identity of Central Intelligence Agency officer Valerie Plame Wilson. Plame’s position at the CIA was considered classified information. Libby was indicted on five counts relating to the Plame affair: Two counts of perjury, two counts of making false statements to federal investigators, and one count of obstruction of justice.”

    Hillary should be given at least this “equal”amount of attention.

  4. Merg, those e-mails were not Classified when issued! Shrillery said so! It is all vast right wingnut conspiracy. There is no there there. Move along sheople!

  5. Having worked at Space Park in Redondo Beach, I guarantee you that if one of Northrup Grumman’s employees handled sensitive or classified information as poorly as has Hilliary, they would have been having that uncomfortable discussion with the FBI by the end of the day, and all of their electronics would have been confiscated. They took “Falcon and the Snowman” (real espionage case inspired it) very seriously.

    Send her to 1000 University Dr. SW, Waseca MN 56093 posthaste. She belongs in government housing for a good long time for this nonsense.

  6. Hillary is a lot of things, but she is not stupid.
    She knew that her crappy home email server would be compromised.
    She just didn’t care. It was more important to her to keep emails out of the federal archives — where they would subject to FOIA exposure — than that her email be secure from snooping by the Russians, Chinese, etc.
    To a Leftist, the first enemy is always his or her fellow citizens, because they have the power to effectively oppose his or her domestic policies.

  7. Bento, I tend to agree with you, and it just takes a special kind of person to not give a d**n that honest men and women are going to die so she can keep what she’s doing secret from the rest of us.

    Now who forwarded these messages to Hilliary? Who refused to? What happened to them? Who died because Hilliary was out of the loop because she refused to get government email? Who died because those unethical forwarders didn’t just send messages to Hilliary? Lots of good questions on this one.

  8. Now, here’s another point to ponder.

    When I was in the Air Force, I was in SAC (Strategic Air Command), which was, in essence, the keeper of most of the country’s nuclear weapons. Whenever a plane was loaded with them or whenever you were on an ICBM site, there was a two man policy that was strictly enforced. In other words, no one person could be either in or around the plane/missile. You had to have another person, with equal or higher level security clearance with you. This was to prevent one person from single handed lay starting WWIII.

    Security Police also guarded the planes/missile sites in pairs and were authorized to shoot to kill, if necessary, anyone that violated it. At the very least, a violation would mean a lengthy meeting with Intelligence, your Section Chief, your Squadron Commander and sometimes, your Wing Commander.

    Further, if you talked about what you did or about the planes/missiles, beyond what was public information, you could be tried for treason.

    Now, if they would put a military member through that, how does Hillary and for that matter, Slick Willy who actually sold secrets to the Chicoms, get away with actions that are worse?

  9. I absolutely love the email server story, because I understand it better than the people reporting on it. Apparently, Cheryl Mills and/or Huma Danger (nee Abedin) copied top-secret code-word information into Emails to their boss over the Internet, without also copying the classification markings. “The Emails were not marked classified” is kind of a funny defense. (And I do mean “ha ha” funny.)

    All of the reporting of the FBI investigation “not being criminal” is half true. In situations like this, the FBI will perform two investigations: The first is the “counter-intelligence” investigation to determine what information likely leaked to national adversaries. The second investigation is the criminal one, to determine who put the classified data on the insecure system. You can always tell the partisan hacks when they describe it as a “private email account” rather than a “private email server”.

  10. “Now, if they would put a military member through that, how does Hillary and for that matter, Slick Willy who actually sold secrets to the Chicoms, get away with actions that are worse?”

    Good question. We’ll get back to you.

    Oh shit, did you see those pictures of Kim Khardassian’s ass?

  11. Bikebubba, any American who tried to hack her home server could have been investigated, indicted, and sentenced to hard time. Not so for foreign intelligence services. Hillary made a very cynical calculation and decided to operate her own server.
    You can run a home-brew server and make it very secure from electronic intrusion (intrusion by a human being with access to its hardware is another matter). Hillary didn’t take the most basic precautions. She didn’t actually have physical control of the server (it was somewhere in Colorado), and she didn’t insure the contractors with physical and electronic access to it were ‘U.S. persons.’ This is ridiculous; I work with some equipment (lasers and IR detectors) that are under ITAR protocols. I can’t let non-US persons even see the control GUIs.
    There is always an argument from sovereignty. Hillary’s position was a political one. The American people elected Obama president, and so tacitly gave him and his political appointees carte blanche with national security.
    I’ve heard that Sanders would have a very difficult time getting a security clearance, if he was not an elected official.

  12. Mitch wrote ”I’m not sure a lot of people on the left really understand what the Hillary Clinton email scandal entails.”

    Of course we do, Mitch. I have debunked that LIE for hundreds of thousands of Penigma readers several times. RIGHT WING, male nutcases like Marco Rubio are incapable of defending their positions against strong, progressive women like Hillary Clinton. Instead they fill the AM radio airwaves with HATE and LIES and get their white GOOD OLD BOYS in the FBI to create a misogynistic narrative that cannot stand up to a thorough FACT-CHECKING.

    The all white male TeaBilly CLOWN CAR is filled with racist, bigots.

    I still have yet to hear an adequate, even remotely plausible explanation, Sarah Palin, her alcoholic, wife beating paper soldier son Trig and her baby making daughter? Right you are. They cannot monitor if or how those emails are being addressed by Hillary’s office staff, or her professionally installed, high quality home server that HAS NEVER BEEN HACKED; they can however hugely interfere with WOMENS HEALTH CARE, like John Kline. Until that question is answered fully, I do not find what bigoted, conservative white men say very convincing. Thankfully you are all dying and will be dead soon.

    Please give my best to Pumpkin, Mitch.

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