Corroboration.
By Mitch Berg
Joe Doakes from Como Park emails:
Uh oh, Snowden has supporters among other whistle-blowers? So he’s factually correct about NSA’s programs?
Nah, rogue agents, all of them. And scalawags, liars and traitors to The First Black President.
Who to believe? Are Conservatives too willing to believe the worst because of Who is in control right now? I doubt it. Especially since as the pressures mount the admissions trickle out. It’s the same story pattern always:
1 it never happened.
2 it probably didn’t happen, but if it did it was an isolated incident by some low-level rogue person in that department/agency/office.
3 it might have happened; but if it did, it was very limited to just one or two rogue persons and it was something that was justified and necessary in any case.
4 it was necessary and LEGAL and everyone knew it and besides it was carefully limited to just what was needed.
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8(escalation of excuses)
17 This is the first Obama and anyone in seats of power have heard anything about it. What is this about again?
18 This is old news, we’ve already addressed it. What difference does it make anyway?
19 We refuse to talk about this anymore because it’s old news, it doesn’t matter, everyone else agreed to it anyway, and it was Bush’s fault.Joe Doakes
it’s the extension of the old Clinton play book: deny, delay, destroy. B
June 20th, 2013 at 9:33 am
And the other shoe drops:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/19/us/politics/nsa-chief-says-surveillance-has-stopped-dozens-of-plots.html?_r=0
I think he’s clearly moving towards the definition of traitor now. That flight to HK did not look good. If I’m going to break rules and claim civil disobedience in the name of the Constitution, I might as well go all in and play political martyr in the courtroom.
June 20th, 2013 at 10:05 am
Oh, well then, if the NSA says it has stopped “dozens” of plots it must be true. It was just a fluke that after having Tsarnaev handed to them on a platter that they dropped the ball.
June 20th, 2013 at 11:05 am
Dozens of plots? Not dozens of incidents? Not even dozens of prosecutions?
Sounds non-falsifiable.
June 21st, 2013 at 9:06 am
Terry, that performance measure is not used in the Obama Era. Now, we measure jobs “saved or created,” for example, so the NSA can claim any numbers it wants as plots “foiled or thwarted” and nobody can question it except racisssss traitors.
June 21st, 2013 at 9:10 am
You raise an interesting point re prosecutions, Terry. If they stopped these plots, where are the would-be terrorists? If they were domestic, did the NSA or FBI or HSA spirit them away for rendition without charging them, holding a bail hearing, etc? If foreign, what part did the domestic surveillance play in exposing this and could it have been done without violating privacy?