It’s Not the Great Depression…

By Johnny Roosh

…but it could be the next. Nobody really knows how deep “it” will go or how long it will last.

In the wake of a 50% drop in the stock market, comparisons to the great depression are apt to occur. Learning from history may reduce our chances of repeating it and all that.Is it possible, theoretically, that we could experience another great depression? If you believe that there is, there hasn’t been a more precipitous collection of events conspiring to repeat that chapter than we have right now.

Are we really so much smarter or better equipped than we were “back then?”

There are a lot of very smart analysts and economists debating both sides of this argument but one fact remains. There has only been one such event in America, and only a handful of major recessions. A dearth of data upon which to formulate analysis of current events.Every time we have a market crash, pessimists exhort “This time is different,” but it never is and the market has always recovered.

Recessions however are caused and measured by multiple elements, the stock market representing only one of them. To say that we aren’t witnessing the beginnings of another great depression simply because conditions are dissimilar to those the led up to the last one is sheer folly.

All this historically inaccurate nostalgia can occasionally make you want to clock somebody with one of the three volumes of Arthur M. Schlesinger Jr.’s history of the New Deal. The credit debacle of 2008 and the Great Depression may have similar origins: Both got going when financial crisis led to a reduction in consumer demand. But the two phenomena differ substantially. Instead of workers with 5 o’clock shadows asking, “Brother, can you spare a dime?” we have clean-shaven financial-services executives asking congressmen if they can spare $100 billion. More substantively, the economic trauma the nation suffered in the 1930s makes today’s woes look like a flesh wound.

That’s easy to say in retrospect but we’re not done yet. Unemployment hasn’t peaked. Real estate values haven’t stopped falling. Credit hasn’t started flowing. Banks haven’t stopped failing. The market hasn’t stopped falling.

A forensic analysis determines the conditions of an event but does not rule out other conditions that could have the same result.

I’m not saying that in fact we are going to experience anything like the Great Depression nor do I know anyone that does. Policymakers however can not continue to penalize the productive, facilitate bail outs, effect government takeovers of entire segments of our economy and drive deeper our national debt without fear of paying a much higher price in the future.

A price that we may not have the resources to pay. Then what?

It isn’t clear what Barack Obama intends to do to correct the course of the economy. It isn’t clear there is anything he can or should do. What is becoming clear however is that a liberal administration and a liberal congress have no intention of sidelining additional bailouts and government largess. The policies that got us into this mess will be perpetuated for at least the next four years. Like oil turning to sludge in a V8 engine, the productive and corrective forces of our free enterprise system are becoming ever more encumbered by liberal lawmakers that have no business messing with economic policy or worse, feel that they know better.

The next great depression may have been caused by a whole new set of circumstances. The last one was caused by a lack of government intervention. The next one could be caused by exactly the opposite.

7 Responses to “It’s Not the Great Depression…”

  1. Mr. Shirt Says:

    Um, I was with you until the second to the last sentence. Government intervention as a reaction to the market crash of 1929 combined with international manipulation of the gold standard, by governments, is what gave us the last depression.

    If this becomes a depression, it will then caused by the same thing.

  2. Mr. Shirt Says:

    Well, minus the gold standard manipulation. However, one might argue that manipulation defines the notion of fiat currency.

  3. JRoosh Says:

    Um, I was with you until the second to the last sentence.

     

    You have a point there. I worded that wrong. What I meant was effective government intervention, or correct intervention. The Fed raised rates in the face of the recession that became the Great Depression, which is by no means a lack of intervention; simply a lack of advisable intervention.

  4. Mr. Shirt Says:

    Then there was Smoot-Hawley, raising the income tax, & a number of other programs Hoover & Co. unleashed prior to FDR going absolutely banannas with the intervention.

  5. Troy Says:

    I was thinking “… but it could be a Pretty Good one”. *shrug*

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  7. nerdbert Says:

    A price that we may not have the resources to pay. Then what?

    The advantage of having dollar denominated debt is that you can run the printing presses to make it go away.

    Yes, that has the effect of devaluing the dollar, but consider the advantages:

    1) Inflation becomes a certainty, and none of the crappy deflationary and disastrous concerns will bite you.

    2) The balance of trade problem tends to get fixed, since the dollar is cheaper and goods flow out of this country more.

    3) Manufacturing comes back on shore. With a lower dollar oil costs more (the last year should be a reminder of that) making local manufacturing more viable, and the lower dollar means more jobs here. Outsourcing slows down, since them thar furriners is more expensive, too.

    4) Inflation fixes the problem with most of the mortgages being underwater in CA. And it makes walking away from your loan or foreclosure less attractive since walking away from the house means it will cost a lot more to get a new one.

    5) It’s the ultimate regressive tax since it devalues real assets and those not inflation indexed.

    Ok, as anyone alive during the 70s can attest inflation isn’t pleasant and it can take a nasty recession to cure it, but a recession isn’t a Depression with deflation and I’d take the Reagan Recession over the FDR Depression any day.

    Hey, you asked what next! I’d be shocked if we don’t get a blast of inflation out of all this mess we’re in, the question is whether it will be sooner rather than later and how much damage we get before it kicks in.

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