Democrats who unctuously and tiresomely lectured us that “there are no Death Panels” (there are; it’s called Case Management) will smugly declare “Paul Ryan wants to kill Grandma” (whereas Ryan’s plan is intended someone can take care of Grandma – and Grandpa – after 2024).
Jim Geraghty goes into details, not that you really need them.
Paul Ryan wants to provide sharply decreasing amounts of support to Grandma and Grandpa. He has tried to end medicare as we know it, and replace it with crappy voucher systems, and he wants to give more wealthy welfare. He has tried to end social security as well.
There are no ‘death panels’; there is a shifting from for profit beauracratic death panels, that cap lifetime coverage so you get left without insurance and health care when you need it most – during lengthy or really serious and expensive illnesses, and that consider things like acne or pregnancy pre-existing conditions as criteria to deny coverage. Case management on the other hand looks at what is the most effective treatment, and provides the same kinds of efficiencies that in other countries, by objective metrics, result in better health care outcomes than what we have.
We currently, prior to the ACA / Obamacare being phased in, have millions who are uninsured and who largely do not receive medical care, resulting in avoidable deaths. Depending on which study, that results in one American death every 30 minutes of uninsured / underinsured citizens, or one every 12 minutes. Those people dying needlessly do not go in front of any case management panel at the moment, but if they do under Obamacare, it will mean many more people living, and many many more people living healthier lives.
Absenteeism because of illness and injury, which are exacerbated by our health care insurance and health care delivery system in comparison to nations with better (as in more ‘socialized’) health care, costs employers $74 billion.
Present-ism – loss in productivity from ill workers who are not performing 100% on task – adds another $259 billion in losses to businesses.
Our lack of adequately health insured workers and our poor outcomes from our current methods of health care delivery, in both quantity and cost control, are putting us at a competitive disadvantage. If you actually crunch the number, you know, with real math, not republican ideology-skewed crap, the ACA/Obamacare is hugely better for us as a nation, including making us more competitive in the global economy.
And of course, Jim Geraghty is not nearly as reliable as the Harvard study, done IN Massachusetts, in party WHILE Romney was governor, and in part what Romneycare was responding to…..but then, you all don’t like talking about Romneycare, or the track record of Romney while governor, and now apparently his not-so-stellar performance in business is a sore issue too.
The ACA is an improvement for the elderly. The Ryan plan is a disaster, and Paul Ryan’s own district in WI packed town halls with angry constituents after he came out with his anti-Medicare budget. Headlines in the Florida papers are claiming the Ryan choice will cost the GOP that state……and I bet they aren’t the only state where he is now in trouble. Those other states with a lot of old retirees, like Arizona, aren’t going to be too enthused either.
So you can take the word of Jim Geraghty, or you can take the words that contradict him from sources like :
the American Journal of Public Health
Harvard School of Medicine
University of Washington School of Medicine
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention aka the CDC
and the NAFC
And those were just a few of the sources I used researching and writing about this topic earlier this week.
FYI – hope all your readers go out and vote in the primary election on Tuesday.
I just posted yet ANOTHER study, this one from the right wing U of AZ Journalism school project / News21, that shows NO VOTER FRAUD, and which in passing debunked the claims of the MN Majority / Election Integrity about the supposed 200 voter fraud convictions from the 2008 election…..
I’m looking forward to your explanation of how it is that while people like you make claims that you can’t substantiate of voter fraud, EVERY single time that a state passes voter suppression /Voter ID by making that claim…….when the state has to go into court, as they do because it IS voter suppression (and racist voter suppression at that) EVERY damned state passing voter ID claims it was NOT because that state had ANY voter fraud (other than at most a 0.0000000000x amount, roughly 1 in every 15 MILLION voters) and not because they anticipated any voter fraud, or that voter ID was related to voter fraud in any way. Why is that? Because that sure sounds like trying to campaign on a lie about voter fraud to pass voter ID to me…
I know – that veered off topic, other than hopefully your original topic and my change of topic both relate to election issues.
Time to grab a few zzzzzzzzs before heading off to the polling place, to do my humble part as an election judge to make sure we don’t have any of that scary voter fraud, for which a surprising number of Republican voters actually are convicted out of that 1 in 15 million.
Paul Ryan wants to provide sharply decreasing amounts of support to Grandma and Grandpa. He has tried to end medicare as we know it, and replace it with crappy voucher systems, and he wants to give more wealthy welfare. He has tried to end social security as well.
There are no ‘death panels’; there is a shifting from for profit beauracratic death panels, that cap lifetime coverage so you get left without insurance and health care when you need it most – during lengthy or really serious and expensive illnesses, and that consider things like acne or pregnancy pre-existing conditions as criteria to deny coverage. Case management on the other hand looks at what is the most effective treatment, and provides the same kinds of efficiencies that in other countries, by objective metrics, result in better health care outcomes than what we have.
We currently, prior to the ACA / Obamacare being phased in, have millions who are uninsured and who largely do not receive medical care, resulting in avoidable deaths. Depending on which study, that results in one American death every 30 minutes of uninsured / underinsured citizens, or one every 12 minutes. Those people dying needlessly do not go in front of any case management panel at the moment, but if they do under Obamacare, it will mean many more people living, and many many more people living healthier lives.
Absenteeism because of illness and injury, which are exacerbated by our health care insurance and health care delivery system in comparison to nations with better (as in more ‘socialized’) health care, costs employers $74 billion.
Present-ism – loss in productivity from ill workers who are not performing 100% on task – adds another $259 billion in losses to businesses.
Our lack of adequately health insured workers and our poor outcomes from our current methods of health care delivery, in both quantity and cost control, are putting us at a competitive disadvantage. If you actually crunch the number, you know, with real math, not republican ideology-skewed crap, the ACA/Obamacare is hugely better for us as a nation, including making us more competitive in the global economy.
And of course, Jim Geraghty is not nearly as reliable as the Harvard study, done IN Massachusetts, in party WHILE Romney was governor, and in part what Romneycare was responding to…..but then, you all don’t like talking about Romneycare, or the track record of Romney while governor, and now apparently his not-so-stellar performance in business is a sore issue too.
The ACA is an improvement for the elderly. The Ryan plan is a disaster, and Paul Ryan’s own district in WI packed town halls with angry constituents after he came out with his anti-Medicare budget. Headlines in the Florida papers are claiming the Ryan choice will cost the GOP that state……and I bet they aren’t the only state where he is now in trouble. Those other states with a lot of old retirees, like Arizona, aren’t going to be too enthused either.
So you can take the word of Jim Geraghty, or you can take the words that contradict him from sources like :
the American Journal of Public Health
Harvard School of Medicine
University of Washington School of Medicine
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention aka the CDC
and the NAFC
And those were just a few of the sources I used researching and writing about this topic earlier this week.
FYI – hope all your readers go out and vote in the primary election on Tuesday.
I just posted yet ANOTHER study, this one from the right wing U of AZ Journalism school project / News21, that shows NO VOTER FRAUD, and which in passing debunked the claims of the MN Majority / Election Integrity about the supposed 200 voter fraud convictions from the 2008 election…..
I’m looking forward to your explanation of how it is that while people like you make claims that you can’t substantiate of voter fraud, EVERY single time that a state passes voter suppression /Voter ID by making that claim…….when the state has to go into court, as they do because it IS voter suppression (and racist voter suppression at that) EVERY damned state passing voter ID claims it was NOT because that state had ANY voter fraud (other than at most a 0.0000000000x amount, roughly 1 in every 15 MILLION voters) and not because they anticipated any voter fraud, or that voter ID was related to voter fraud in any way. Why is that? Because that sure sounds like trying to campaign on a lie about voter fraud to pass voter ID to me…
I know – that veered off topic, other than hopefully your original topic and my change of topic both relate to election issues.
Time to grab a few zzzzzzzzs before heading off to the polling place, to do my humble part as an election judge to make sure we don’t have any of that scary voter fraud, for which a surprising number of Republican voters actually are convicted out of that 1 in 15 million.
DG;dr
DG,
WRong again, wrong alwayws.
Ryan wants to ensure there will be a program for Grandma and Grandpa.
Here’s a question for you – and please answer it before you do anything else on this blog; what is Obama’s plan?
DG,
It is a fact that if you use this blog to drop occasional rhetorical flaming turd bags and then run away without engaging everyone who – let’s be honest – shred everything you write, it’s inevitably you’ll be regarded more and more as a troll.
Otherwise? DG:dnr
What is wrong with DG? No one reads her stuff. She is incapable of expressing herself clearly and concisely.
DG;dr
DG; dr
If brevity is the soul of wit, DG is the embodiment of tedium. As an author, she is a Wikipedia definition of a filibuster.
The sad part is that it wouldn’t be any better even if her opinions weren’t so stupid. *shrug*
tl:dr
Doggone, let’s face some facts; the “Health Insurance Deform” act, aka “ACA”, posits unsustainable cuts in Medicare, which already faces unfunded liabilities somewhere between forty and eighty trillion dollars.
Given that these unfunded liabilities exceed the national wealth, is our better choice to (a) use private sector means that kept medical costs down prior to government paying half of all medical bills or (b) keep Medicare as is and watch the whole thing collapse, giving Grandma and Grandpa nothing?
The Obama plan is (b), and has actuarially certain results.
If we do nothing Medicare in all of its forms will go bankrupt, so will SSI. So far I have not seen the Democratic plan to save it, unless you consider denial a plan. Ryan has a plan, will it work? I think it will only postpone the inevitable collapse.
Unfortunately, I believe that the Democrats and their Media minions will scare seniors enough to prevent any reform. Debt will continue to rise and ultimately our currency will be on a par with Zimbabwe’s.