Kubler-Ross, Meet Wasserman-Schultz

The piece could also be entitled “The Five Stages Of Liberal Argumentation”.

I’ve observed for a long time now that liberals, especially in liberal hotbeds like the Twin Cities, are really, really bad debaters.  My thesis is that liberals in liberal hotbeds never really need to learn how to debate; they are indoctrinated in a school system that teaches “progressive” values as the baseline, they are educated schooled in a university system that actively squelches dissent, and they are politically spawned in a party and movement whose entire internal message is coordinated top-down groupthink. They never have to learn to think of conservative arguments as anything but something lesser people do.

And let’s be honest; there are conservatives out there who live down to that stereotype.

But when they run into an argument that beats them on the facts, the rules and the logic – and that is very, very often, especially in the battle between the left and rights’ media and alt-media – I’ve observed a bit of a pattern:

Stage One: Unearned Smugness.  Most liberals are good for about one round of “facts” in a given argument.  These, they deliver as if they were carved on stone tablets by a lightning bolt from on high, whether they came from empirical research (rare) or chanting points straight from the leftymedia chain of command (from “Media Matters” all the way down to “Minnesota Progressive Project”).

This round of facts, or factoids, generally falls after one round of actual enquiry.  The collapse of the round of facts, or “facts”, leads to:

Stage Two:  Logical Fallacy.  When confronted with the collapse of their first and only round of factoids and chanting points, most liberal bloggers and activists will fall back on the lessons they learned from the oracle from which most of them learned all they will ever know about debate – Stephen Colbert.   Thrown off-balance by a substantive counterattack, they’ll fall back one of several common logical fallacies to try to negate an argument they can’t attack.  These include:

  • The Ad-Hominem:  “Oh, right – you got that from “Republicanmussen”!”
  • The Tu Quoque:  “But ten years ago, you supported raising taxes!  You flip-flopped! I shall disregard your argument!”
  • The Appeal to Ridicule: “I had an argument like that – until my father got a job!”
  • The Straw Man: “You want to reform Medicaid?  Why do you want every single poor person to die?
  • The Appeal to Authority: “Your source went to a Tier 3 Law School.  My source went to a Tier 1 school.  His data is therefore better!”
  • The “Red Herring”:  “You say you oppose building a light rail train.  But you favored building an aircraft carrier!  You’re a hypocrite!”
These are the most common logical fallacies that libs resort to – but one must learn to expect any and all of them, frequently simultaneously.

Stage 3:  The Tonkin Gulf Gambit:  Once their facts are disposed of and their logical fallacies are called out, the liberal will have to dig deeper into the bag of tricks.  The Tonkin Gulf Gambit is named after LBJ’s signature foreign policy accomplishment – the faking of an attack by North Vietnamese torpedo boats on an American destroyer.  LBJ used the fake attack to justify a huge ramping up of the Vietnam War.

Liberals, their “facts” shredded and their fallacies mocked, will frequently gin up a simiilar fake attack, to cover their own inability to carry on a factual arrument, as in the scenario below:

LANA LIBRELL:  “Assault weapons cause crime waves!”

KEVIN KONSERVATIVSKI: “Crime rates are actually lower in states that don’t ban assault weapons, and they’re going down”.

PETE PROGRESSIVE: “Going down?  That was sexist!  You apologize to Lana! I don’t argue with sexist pigs that objectify women!”

This is also called “Getting The Victorian Vapours”.

Stage 4:  Killing The Messenger: Unable to debate, BS or sidetrack you, the liberal’s next tactic will be to destroy  you.

KEVIN KONSERVATIVSKI: “Keeping the speed limit at 55 makes no economic sense”.

YOLANDA YUTOPIAN: “Of course you’d say that.  You have three speeding tickets in the past 15 years.  What ELSE will your records show?”

Stage 5:  Declaring Victory And Calling The Debate Over:  Like the President did the other day:

There never was an argument, Winston. The facts, logic and rules always favored us. There was never a debate. There was never a debate.

What to do about this?

Any psychologists in the house?

8 thoughts on “Kubler-Ross, Meet Wasserman-Schultz

  1. “Any psychologists in the house?”

    I’m thinking a psychologist isn’t enough, to really understand the disorder of liberalism you need to defer to a psychiatrist. This one seems to have figured it out:

    “The roots of liberalism – and its associated madness – can be clearly identified by understanding how children develop from infancy to adulthood and how distorted development produces the irrational beliefs of the liberal mind,” he says. “When the modern liberal mind whines about imaginary victims, rages against imaginary villains and seeks above all else to run the lives of persons competent to run their own lives, the neurosis of the liberal mind becomes painfully obvious.” – Lyle H. Rossiter, Jr, MD

  2. Most liberals are heavily cocooned. Because of their control of the old media and the education establishment, you can be a liberal and never hear a conservative opinion on any topic. They often forget — or just don’t believe — that out of ten Americans, five will say that they are in the middle, and three will say that they are conservative. Only two will self-identify as liberal.
    Obsession with Limbaugh, Beck and Fox News is the sign that a person is really out there. Less than one in a hundred people listen to Limbaugh and Beck regularly. In a nation of well over three hundred million people, Fox News cable attracts less than a million viewers for its most popular programs.
    And why in the world do liberals think that Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert are worth quoting? They are actors and comedians, for God’s sake. Both are 1%’ers with generic liberal arts degrees. It is rare on a conservative web site or blog to see Limbaugh or Beck quoted, but lefty bloggers seem to think that Stewart and Colbert have important political things to say. Jeez. Despite evidence to the contrary the left satirizes the right as getting all of their news from Fox, Limbaugh, and Beck, but if you go to a lefty blog, it’s all about MSNBC, Stewart, and Colbert.

  3. Aw, I was hoping for a canine commentary debunking all five points followed by a thorough drubbing.

  4. There’s a darker pattern, too, that springs from childish resentment borne of disagreement and flowers into vengence and sometimes violence.

    Liberal asserts X is so. I disagree. Liberal is compelled to find out why I disagree so she can fix me and obtain agreement. There are generally only two choices: I’m either deficient in some way, or I’m evil.

    Am I un-educated? Do I need her to explain more fully why X is so? No, I know the facts but reject the conclusion.

    Am I stupid? No, I comprehend the analysis but reject the conclusion.

    Am I simply playing the devil’s advocate, but in my heart, do believe X is so? No, I sincerely believe X is not so.

    Then I must be Evil. Evil is personal. Evil must be exposed, resisted, punished, lest it contaminate innocents. I have placed upon her a moral obligation to harass my employer to get me fired, to call in fake SWAT emergencies on me, to audit my taxes, unseal my court records, publish my personal information, key my car, wish hateful illnesses on me and accost my children in the park and on the playground.

    Whatever it takes to convince me to desist from committing and spreading Evil is perfectly justified and I brought it upon myself. She can not only sleep well at night but also be applauded by all right-thinking people for doing it.

    Liberals decry The Office of the Holy Inquisition, devoted to eliminating heresy. They forget they have one of their own. And theirs is far more vicious.
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