Another multiple victim shooting at an American post-secondary school. This time, possibly zero dead; some reports say the shooter killed himself:
Several people have been shot on the Northern Illinois University campus. The suspect reportedly killed himself and officials say the danger has passed.
Officials confirmed that several people were shot at Cole Hall, a large lecture hall on campus, shortly after 3 p.m. and the campus was immediately placed on lockdown. Kishwaukee Hospital reported that up to 15 people were being brought to the hospital.
While I can’t find a specific policy on the NIU website yet, Illinois has among the “toughest” gun laws in the country (where “onerous to the law-abiding” = “tough”).
Looks like they’ve done yet another fine job.
UPDATE: I had a bad feeling it couldn’t last. Four dead, plus the shooter.
Good thing Illinois is the most anti-gun state in the Union; goodness knows what would have happened.
I’ve spent a lot of time on that campus since the mid 80’s. The traditional location of Drum Corps Midwest Championships. It is a flat barron oasis with buildings poking out of the corn fields. No where to run, no where to hide.
“It is a flat barron oasis with buildings poking out of the corn fields.”
You’ve just described 96% of Illinois. Champaign-Urbana was no better. It’s a wonder that more folks don’t go nutzo there. Thinking back on my stint there, maybe they do, just less destructively.
Someone noted that it looks like the high school shootings of the 1990s have become college shootings of the 2000s.
Hmm, I drove through DeKalb once. Wanted to visit the barbed wire museum but it wasn’t open.
at 7:00 p.m.
Mitch, update: CBS is reporting 5 dead (including the shooter).
Nationwide totals: Gun-Free Zones, dozens; concealed carry holders, any?
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nate — Yup. There have been a few — very few, but some — instances of permit holders committing murder. We even had one in Minnesota; Zack Ourada got drunk in a bar, got kicked out, went home, got a gun, and came back and murdered Big Billy Walsh at Nye’s. The civil rights issue aside — not that it should be; there were murders committed by freed slaves, after all, and that doesn’t mean that the Emancipation Proclamation was a bad idea — the cost-benefit analysis that makes modern, mainstream, commonsense shall issue permit laws such an obvious win doesn’t depend on no permit holders ever behaving badly. More than two million successful defensive gun uses per year; at most, a total of single digit number of murders by permit holders, ever; the math isn’t difficult.
Went to ‘six’ overnight. Just awful
JoelR – yeah, I remember that guy in Minneapolis. In my mind, I wasn’t counting him since his shooting wasn’t committed in the heat of the moment with a gun lawfully carried, the way anti-CCW people envision the streets running with blood over every traffic incident (and every campus knee-deep in gore if CCWs are allowed there). He had to go home to get his gun and go back to the bar to shoot the guy.
If he’d been involved in a drunk-driving-accident and ran over a nun, would that count against CCW holders, too (Nun run down by CCW clown)?
I guess the point I’m trying to make is that the instances where gun free zones allowed illegally armed killers to roam freely, versus the number of instances where legally permitted shooters ran amuk, leads me to believe that for society to allow gun free zones is exponentially more dangerous than to allow CCW. Yes, it’s counterintuitive, but more guns on the streets does NOT equal more crime – it depends on whose hands are holding the guns . . . punks, or cops and CCW holders.
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