Q: How Can You Tell Alliance For A Better MN Is Lying?

A:  Their fingers are moving over a keyboard.

The Dayton-family-funded attack-PAC ran this on Twitter last night – and, as with most lefty memes, when you see it one place, you see it everywhere:

.@TomEmmer says he never sponsored a law to lessen penalties for DWIs… Here’s his signature: http://twitpic.com/29rwsk #stribpol #mn2010

Um, no.  He didn’t vote to “lessen penalties”.  He voted to allow convicted drunk drivers to get some of their rights back after ten years’ good behavior, and voted for a provision that would allow accused drunk driver the radical right to be considered innocent until proven guilty.

Alliance for a Better Minnesota has no shame – but we should all be ashamed of them anyway.

36 thoughts on “Q: How Can You Tell Alliance For A Better MN Is Lying?

  1. Mitch, you’re right that ABM doesn’t have an ounce of shame in much the same way that the Clintons don’t have an ounce of loyalty to anyone except themselves.

    I said in this post that ABM isn’t concerned with the truth. I posted that in May. I was right then & I’m right now.

  2. Technically, giving rights back would be a lessening of the punishment – but as we learned in the Sherrod affair, context is important (unless the accused is a Republican).
    Retweet – The Alliance for a Better Minnesota considers the anyone the state has accused guilty until they prove their innocence.
    To paraphrase prof. Reynolds, They told me if I voted for McCain the state would no longer be required to prove guilt… and they were right!

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  4. Fine. If Emmer’s ancient DWIs are fair game, it’s time to tell Minnesota about Mark Dayton’s mental health problems. Run some ads with his Marty Feldman eyes and detail his history. Ask what’s more of an issue — a DWI from 20 years ago, or the issues Dayton has had much more recently.

  5. Hey flash, you’re back!

    Often an elected republican. Like Bachmann, who can’t pass a single fact-check, and has a long long list of them.

    Or a blogger like Breitbart.

    Or a ‘guerilla journalist’ like James O’Keefe.

    How many times have republicans claimed voter fraud, not only without substantiating the accusation, but in defiance of the actual proof that says it is incredibly rare? Emmer signs on to that lie, with Minnesota Majority – which is no majority, even the name is a lie.

  6. Seflores,

    They told me if I voted for McCain the state would no longer be required to prove guilt… and they were right!

    Hah!

    Flash,

    you must be a Republican LOL

    Couldn’t see that one coming. No, not at all…

    Bachmann…Breitbart….James O’Keefe…

    …would be interesting subjects, if changing the subject to something completely unrelated were considered good debating.

    Alas, it is not.

  7. Often an elected republican. Like Bachmann, who can’t pass a single fact-check, and has a long long list of them.
    OK, Doggie, instead of the ad hominem, why don’t you try something unusual for a liberal. List them. It’s a “long list” and I’m sure we’ll all have hours of fun shredding your partisan logic.

  8. The allegations of Dayton’s mental health status have been below the surface for years. No one has ever come forward with any substantiation of the fact his insanity is actually CLINICAL. I patiently expect the Strib to do an in-depth, hard-hitting investigative piece which will conclude: George Bush made Dayton’s screws come loose and that his road to recovery requires he be elected governor.

  9. DG,

    I almost let this go by, because it’s something the local left have abused so badly it’s become one of those cliches that make your eyes glaze over:

    Like Bachmann, who can’t pass a single fact-check, and has a long long list of them.

    A single fact-check? Really? She’s never told the truth once, on any substantive issue, in all her years in politics?

    That, itself, might seem to be a fact check you may flunk, DG.

    Here’s the truth about Michele Bachmann, in a story I’ve told a few times. I saw her at a town hall, with Elwin “E-Tink” Tinklenberg and Bob Anderson, before the 2008 election. Facing a crowd that was half friendly, half hostile (and, like so many lefty crowds, rude and juvenile in expressing their disagreement).

    Tinklenberg prattled about some platitudes for about ten minutes. Zero substance.

    Anderson just…blathered. Nice guy, but way out of his depth.

    Bachmann grabbed a white board and a dry erase marker, and broke down the EXTREME depth of the financial crisis we face and the HORRENDOUS debt that Tarp, the Porkulus, Obamacare, and the upcoming Pension bailouts were going to get us into. She hit that audience with more facts about the economy than a week of CNN. She shut her detractors in the audience down without a direct word. She made E-Tink look like the featherweight he was.

    The regional left and media have set up a narrative about Bachmann; she’s cooperated, occasionally, with what used to be a “ready-fire-aim” approach to winging it, although she’s tightened that up (not that that’s caused anyone to update the narrative).

    DG, protestations of independence notwithstanding, participates in spreading the narrative.

    I think I broke it down pretty well, thanks.

  10. Remember when Obama said that no one who made less than than $250k/year would see thier taxes raised?
    That was a lie.
    Remember when Obama said you could keep your doctor under Obama care?
    That was a lie.
    Remember when Obama said under his health care plan you wouldn’t be forced to buy insurance?
    That was a lie.

    Flash and Dog Gone joyfully cast their votes for Obama.

  11. Most DWIs occur to men. Therefore if you oppose this law, you are sexist. Just like Hitler.

  12. How about this for changing a law…….
    Minnesota politician news…also can be filed under “are Democrats trying to lose this fall?”. UPS is unionized and has very high labor costs. FedEx is non-union, pays it’s employees well, but has their costs under control. Minn congressman (and transportation committee chair) Oberstar is trying to change the law to make it easier for unions to take over FedEx (UPS supports Democrats as they need to bring down FedEx). Goes back to FedEx being considered an airline that owns trucks, while UPS is a trucking company the operates airplanes. Obestar wants to bring down FedEx as a favor for the money he receives from the less competitve UPS.

  13. Chuck;

    Great points, but Oberspend hasn’t ever been the sharpest knife on the tree.

    Does anyone or everyone remember when he floated the brilliant idea to install a GPS unit in everyone’s cars to monitor their carbon emissions and/or gas usage? That went far! I hope that the entitled class on the iron range figured out that when they drove to and from the cities, they would pay big bucks, they threatened their commie benefactor with his job, but that would beyond reality.

    But then, this is just one of a long list of liberat ideas that will solve one problem, but create 10 more. In this case, the billions of dollars that it would cost to put those GPS chips on all the vehicles.

  14. I love it when some lefty assnozzle pops it’s head up out of the dirt and screams FACTCHECK! WHERE’S THE FACTCHECK!! and the proceeds to unload a greasy pant load of mind bending idiocy into a comment thread, almost as much as I love it when one pops it’s head out and unloads a dim-witted one liner.

    Gotta hand it to you Mitch. When it comes to attracting quality moonbats, SITD is #1.

  15. Speaking of Bike Path Jim Oberstar – I was shocked, shocked ala Capt. Renault when Bike Path spoke perfect French to Veronique deRugy during a transport committee hearing…
    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/reliable-source/2010/03/rep_oberstar_the_oysters_of_no.html
    Apparently he wished that he had spent more time in Paris. Me too, Representative, me too. To bad you didn’t meet a French girl and settle down there.
    Didn’t one of the Fraters have a story months (years?) ago that companies Bike Path regulates gave beaucoup d’argent to St. Thomas U for some Oberstar School ala Charlie Rangels regulatees giving some money to a school named after him in NYC? Can’t find a link at St Thomas, but maybe someone in this community knows?

  16. Surely you’re not doing an impersonation of former Senator Mark Dayton here?

    “here?” Everywhere, everytime.

  17. When I lived up there, Oberstar used his mothers apartment in Chisholm as his Minnesota address. He lived in DC full time. She has since passed away so I am unsure how he maintains a “residence” in the district. Some times, Democrat or Republican, you are just in there too long.

  18. Not fair, JPA. Doggie is obviously NOT a congenital idiot. Is she a bipolar alcoholic? I don’t know. But she can string two sentences together and that’s more than can be said for Mark Dayton.

  19. Minnesota Left-Leaners: “Bush is teh stoopid.”

    Minnesota Conservative: “Hi, how are you doing? Who are you voting for this year?”

    Minnesota Left-Leaners: “Oooh! I’m glad you asked!!! Mark Dayton.”

    Minnesota Conservative: “What? The former Senator? The one who can’t string two sentences together?”

    Minnesota Left-Leaners: “Argh! That’s sooo superficial of you! And hateful… he’s got a condition, you know. Hate-monger! Leave dreamy Mark Dayton alone!”

    Minnesota Conservative: “Well… thanks Peev and sidekick Dog. You’re nothing if not consistent.”

    Consistently dumb.

  20. Kermit is correct, DG IS significantly smarter than Mark Dayton. I had a conversation with him in the IDS Crystal Court about 10 years ago and I came away convinced that he was drunk or on heroin or Quaaludes because he could not construct a coherent sentence – I chalked it up to him having a bad day until I saw him at a campaign stop a couple years later – the man has mush for brains.
    So DG IS significantly smarter than Mark Dayton but the bar is not particularly high in this case.

  21. Given his pharaceutical regimen, is he allowed to operate heavy machinery? – you know, like a government!

  22. To borrow from Mary McCarthy on Lillian Hellman:
    Everything they write is a lie, including “and” and “the”.

  23. In C.I. Mark Dayton’s defense I must observe that he is the perfect DFL candidate. It would be hard to find another who personifies “blank slate” as completely.

  24. As to Michelle Bachmann, I’ve spoken at a Tea Party after her (perhaps unsurprisingly, my subject was the Second Amendment), and definitely want to go before, next time; she’s not an easy act to follow. Same for future House Member King Banaian (or He Whose Name Defies My Attempts to Spell, Yeah, Verily, Even Unto the Thousandth time, as he’s known around my house).

    That said, she certainly has made misstatements of fact, unlike every other politician, who never err . . .

    Getting back to Emmer, I disagree with him (I think the over-punishment of drunk driving has been a demonstrable failure, and his suggested reforms, IMHO, don’t go far enough), but whatever his position was on withholding punishment until the time, if ever, that the accused is found guilty of a crime isn’t a “lessening of punishment”, but just plain fair.

  25. What lessening of what punishment do y’all speak of?

    Should law abiding citizens be marked with a permanent Circle D branding or tattoo on their forehead only after they have ten years of upstanding behavior since the infraction? Should you have to get new plates ten years after you had a parking ticket? Speeding ticket? Car accident?

  26. Again: I’m not in favor of Permanent Punishment status beyond exit from prison/probation even for most felonies.

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