From the land of fruits and nuts

By Jeff Kouba

The California Legislature is currently gestating a bill declaring the work week shall be 32 hours for companies with more than 500 employees. Worse, the bill would mandate that the pay rate remain what it was for 40 years, and cannot be reduced. But wait, there’s more!

If the beleaguered employer tries to get its employers to work more hours to make up for the lost productivity, they have to pay time and a half over 32 hours. Or, the beleaguered employer can take on the added expense of part-time works to make up the lost hours.

From the text of the bill:

Existing law defines and regulates the terms and conditions of employment. Existing law generally defines “workweek” for these purposes and requires that work in excess of 40 hours in a workweek be compensated at a rate of at least 1 1/2 times the employee’s regular rate of pay, subject to certain exceptions. Existing law makes a violation of these provisions a misdemeanor.

This bill would instead require that work in excess of 32 hours in a workweek be compensated at the rate of no less than 1 1/2 times the employee’s regular rate of pay. The bill would require the compensation rate of pay at 32 hours to reflect the previous compensation rate of pay at 40 hours and would prohibit an employer from reducing an employee’s regular rate of pay as a result of this reduced hourly workweek requirement. The bill would exempt an employer with no more than 500 employees from the above provisions. By expanding the scope of a crime, this bill would impose a state-mandated local program.

What’s the worry, you say? A number of companies have experimented with a four-day work week.

I realize that when classroom instruction time is taken up with inculcating little Brandon and Ashley Snowflake on the nuances of gender bending there is less time to spend on basic economics. But, there is a difference between a private company choosing the hours their workers put in and what they get paid, and the government mandating that an employee can work 20% less for the same pay, and that the employer must bear the added cost.

While I would love to see this bill pass in California, as it would only hasten the demise of that state, and perhaps something useful could be rebuilt from the rubble, a Democrat Congressman has introduced a similar bill at the federal level. (Co-sponsored by Rashida Tlaib of Michigan.)

Prices are often described as signals because they convey information to both producer and consumer who can make rational decisions based on that information. Producers make decisions on whether to produce more or less. Consumers make decisions about consuming more or less.

The price of labor is no different. It conveys information that employers take into account when deciding how many employers it can afford, and employees decided if it is worth it for them to work at a given pay rate, or if they can find a better rate elsewhere.

When the government interferes in markets, and things like minimum wages and rent control are interferences, it introduces distortions. Distortions lead to bad information, and with bad information, producers and consumers make decisions they wouldn’t have made otherwise had they had good information.

These distortions have ripple effects. Employers cannot just absorb 20% less work for the same pay, and so these costs are passed on either in higher prices for goods, or fewer employees.

Do the people behind these bills care about the distortions they would introduce? One problem is they can’t know all the distortions they would cause. Prices are the signals that imbalances are present, and the prices would be wrong. The authors of these bills think they bribe voters by giving them other people’s money. Only a simpleton would think such a bribe wouldn’t cause problems, and only a fool wouldn’t worry that these problems can’t be completely known.

One completely predictable outcome is when you elect socialists, you wind up living under socialism.

Kevin Williamson put it this way:

We want to simplify the complex. And we want to bring down that which is high to a lower level where it’s easy to understand. So if the thing that’s wrong with the country is there are people we don’t like, and they’re getting rich by screwing us. And by messing everything up behind the scenes. That’s a pretty comforting story. If the actual story is “wow, the world is complex and we can’t actually accomplish a lot of the things that we want to. And the government can’t necessarily do the right thing even if we all agree on what it is because there are information problems and there are problems of incentives and problems having to do with complexity, that make things come out not the way we intended, and that all of our best intentions and our purest motives can produce horrifying results as they as they have over the years.” You see this in the really extreme political outcomes.

You know, the people who fought the Russian Revolution, didn’t want to build a nightmare state of gulags, but that’s where they ended up. I don’t think most of the people around the Chinese Communists in Mao’s era wanted to inflict the kind of nightmare on their people that they did. But they did. Now our situation isn’t that extreme, obviously. But it’s the same principle in the sense that nobody wants the current situation. Nobody really wants these outcomes. No one wants our healthcare system to look the way it does. No one wants K through 12 education to suck as hard as it does around the country. No one wants police who are irresponsible and trigger happy. But this is the system we’ve nonetheless managed to build for ourselves out of the interaction of our conflicting motives and incentives and information.

56 Responses to “From the land of fruits and nuts”

  1. justplainangry Says:

    Nobody really wants these outcomes. No one wants our healthcare system to look the way it does. No one wants K through 12 education to suck as hard as it does around the country. No one wants police who are irresponsible and trigger happy.

    Oddly enough, all of these are brought to you courtesy of the $sici@list goons who infiltrated the Ed and the DOJ and most other goobernment alphabet soup unelected agencies.

    As far as land of fruit and nuts, it will soon have neither as remaining companies will pull up stakes. Rand’s Fountainhead was yet another prescient work. How did she know? It’s like she studied history or something.

  2. Emery Says:

    All the exact same predictions of doom from the same people who made the exact same arguments when the 40 hour work week was introduced. Not to mention when environmental protections were introduced, when the minimum wage was introduced, when you name it was introduced. The economy adapts. You’d think they’d get tired of being wrong, but here we are.

    My daughter, an ICU nurse works three 12s. This has been true for at least a decade if not longer. This is a great way to work and live. Especially if you’re able to cluster those days in to a small bonus each week — she has actually gone on mini vacations in between her weeks without even taking vacation time. But less than a 40 hour work week? Definitely a good deal.

  3. jdm Says:

    Oddly enough, all of these are brought to you …

    by so-called conservatives too. Standard issue Republican conservatives doing their level best to conserve all Democrats gains, so the Democrats can continue on where they left off when they’re back in power.

  4. justplainangry Says:

    jdm, could not agree more. more reason to institute term limits to get rid of permanent grifters.

  5. Joe Doakes Says:

    I can forsee some payroll and benefits issues.

    Is “work week” averaged over the entire year or a single pay period?

    If this bill passes, will school weeks be cut to four days? Road construction, too?

    If so, will teachers be required to put in time during the summer and road construction workers more time in the winter, to make up for not having worked enough hours during their regular season?

    If a road construction worker has only 32 hours during the summer and zero during the winter, does his family lose health insurance?

    Does a minister get double-time-and-a-half for working the Christmas holiday?

  6. Emery Says:

    I had been working a 4 day week for more than 10 years prior to retirement. I was insanely grateful for my position, and I wish everyone could find a way to not work so much. We are all sprinting towards death. And for what?

  7. Mammuthus Primigenesis Says:

    Health costs per employee remain the same, regardless of how many hours that the employee works. Logically, then, the employer should offset the 20% fewer hours worked by increasing the share of health care costs born by the worker.
    Why stop at 32 hours per week? Why not 24 hours or 16 hours? Why not 0?

  8. justplainangry Says:

    Why not 0?

    That is the goal, is it not? Everybody is on the dole. Nobody works, everyone sits by the pool eating grapes and oranges. Utopia! Where does the money come from? From billionaires and flyover states, where else!

  9. Mammuthus Primigenesis Says:

    Me to Cali politician: “Do you believe that mandating a 32 hour work week for 40 hours will improve the lot of all of California’s workers with no negative economic effects?”
    Cali politician: “Of course! It is foolish and even harmful to believe otherwise!””
    Me to Cali politician: “Do you believe that a woman can have a penis and impregnate a man?”
    Cali politician: “Of course! It is foolish and even harmful to believe otherwise!”

  10. bosshoss429 Says:

    MP is correct. Most people that work 32 or four 10 hour days, sit on their asses playing on their computers or are watching their idiot boxes. Obviously, Emery, you are of the same ilk. Just because you don’t work a 40 hour work week, doesn’t mean you don’t get sick.

  11. bikebubba Says:

    The one thing I can say for this is that after all the time you spend commuting in California, you’ve only got time to work that 32 hours per week. I remember attending a training session in Alviso (near Milpitas) and being appalled when guys said that their commutes were “only” an hour each way.

    Mine was about 45 minutes–on a bicycle.

    Regarding California, five will get you ten that Google and others carve out an exemption stating that their best ideas actually come after 45 hours per week, and they will take theirs and let the rest of the state go to H*ll. It’s simply what they’ve done before.

  12. justplainangry Says:

    Funny thing, bike, nobody is rushing to 32hr weeks in Texas and I dare say our traffic is probably worse than Cali. My commute was over an hour to work and 2 hours back, same 30 miles. And I only went 1/2 way across the city. Commute is much longer for those going clear across.

  13. jdm Says:

    Early on, I had written a nasty comment because I dislike Kevin Williamson just that much. I deleted it and as a consequence, I forgot to ask about this.

    Do the people behind these bills care about the distortions they would introduce?

    I am surprised in this day and age that any non-leftist would even ask this. After the last 2, 3 years and continuing to this day, I would assume that any non-leftist would know, “no, they don’t care”. I mean, what does it take?

  14. Blade Nzimande Says:

    My daughter, an ICU nurse works three 12s.

    huh….couple weeks ago, it was 5 10s….lmao. You lying piece of shit.

    But to the topic at hand. I can’t endorse this enough. When more companies move, the slags will not follow so long as Cali keeps doling out the gibs. And by the time they decide to de-camp, pissed off Cali ex-pats like myself will shun their arrival with all we got.

    Y’all fucked up the most beautiful state in the country. Now you own it…starve in it.

  15. Blade Nzimande Says:

    OT, kind of. We just watched a movie called “How it ends”. It’s an enigmatic EOTW story, we never do know exactly what’s going on, but the protagonist is heading cross country to his hometown of Seattle.

    When he gets there, it’s a flaming heap. Later, an antagonist informs us the West coast is all the same.

    I have never been so fulfilled…..

  16. Loren Says:

    The real issue is not the mandate of a 32 hour work week vs. the 40 hour work week, the real issue is the mandate to continue gross pay at the 40 hour rate, while only getting 32 hour of work, a 20% increase in cost.

    So,assuming that your current employee workforce is 100% efficient (or productive), the 500 employee company is losing 4000 person hours of work EACH WEEK. To make up that, the 500 person company will need to hire an additional 125 persons to just produce the same amount of work.

    I don’t know if the new hires could be paid 20% less than the established employees, to somewhat compensate for the less work, but even if they could, the new hires will not stay long, doing the same work as the seasoned employees for 80% of the pay.

    No accounting for the additional benefits, taxes and training costs that 125 new employees will introduce. Nor for the additional space that you may need for the 125 additional employees, work areas, bathrooms, parking spots, etc.

    Now if you, rightly assume that your new hires will not be as productive as the incumbent employees, you may need to hire even more than the 125 employees, just to achieve the same result that you had prior to the law enactment.

    So no reason to believe that there might be unexpected consequences as a result of this proposal.

  17. justplainangry Says:

    Progress is measured by increase in productivity and standard of living. So when do we start calling progressives, anti-progressives?

  18. Mammuthus Primigenesis Says:

    My step daughter in law is an ICU nurse. Lately she has been working 120hrs/wk, caring for asthmatic patients who wore their masks too long and suffered pulmonary collapse as a result. How many will be saved by induced comas and ventilators?
    We don’t know. We just don’t know.
    Many of these victims of Republican policies were children, with their whole lives in front of them. Now they are fitted into heart-breakingly small coffins as they are lowered into the cold, cold earth, surrounded by crowds of grieving, loving, photogenic relatives.
    If only George Floyd was still alive, he would have personally attended many of the funerals of the victims, but he can’t.
    Because a white cop killed him. For buying cigarettes.

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  20. Emery Says:

    ^ When my daughter worked for Sanford — she had as much OT as she wanted working in the Covid-19 ward.

    It’s becoming easier for more people to understand the old adage: work to live — don’t live to work.

    People have also realized that work/life balance and quality of life are more important than career progression at the expense of the former.

    It will be interesting to see how companies change incentives and benefits in order to attract employees.

  21. Mammuthus Primigenesis Says:

    JPA, progressives are simply redefining progress. Ever heard of the “Human Development Index”?

  22. Joe Doakes Says:

    Sounds like an innovative solution to an age-old problem: how does the legislature improve a private sector employee’s work-life balance?

    Legislators don’t improve a private sector employee’s work-life balance by forcing her employer to give her a 20% raise. It’s no good making extra money if she doesn’t have time away from work to spend it.

    Legislators don’t improve a private sector employee’s work-life balance by forcing her employer to give her one day per week Leave Without Pay. It’s no good having an extra day away from work if she can’t afford to do anything.

    Legislators don’t improve a private sector employee’s work-life balance by forcing her emloyer to give her extra hours making money now so she can can take early retirement later. It’s no good having time off when she’s old, her joints ache, her kids are grown and gone.

    Legislators don’t improve a private sector employee’s work-life balance by forcing her employer to give her 52 more days of paid vacation per year to use as she pleases. It’s no good if she works like a dog all year to take a two-month-long holiday in winter, leaving her weekly work-life balance still out of whack.

    Legislators improve a private sector employee’s work-life balance by forcing her employer to give her extra time off during the work week, with pay, while she is young enough to enjoy it. It’s good because she now has the ideal work-life balance that the wise and generous legislators want her to have.

    Whether she wants it or not.

    Only one more thing to make life perfect: no moonlighting on her extra day off to make extra money for luxuries. Because it’s no good legislators giving her the ideal work-life balance if she discards it of her own free will. That would be the worst thing of all.

  23. Joe Doakes Says:

    Moderation. Second attempt:

    Sounds like an innovative solution to an age-old problem: how does the legislature improve a private sector employee’s work-life balance?

    Legislators don’t improve a private sector employee’s work-life balance by forcing her employer to give her a 20% raise. It’s no good making extra money if she doesn’t have time away from work to spend it.

    Legislators don’t improve a private sector employee’s work-life balance by forcing her employer to give her one day per week Leave Without Pay. It’s no good having an extra day away from work if she can’t afford to do anything.

    Legislators don’t improve a private sector employee’s work-life balance by forcing her emloyer to give her extra hours making money now so she can can take early retirement later. It’s no good having time off when she’s old, her joints ache, her kids are grown and gone.

    Legislators don’t improve a private sector employee’s work-life balance by forcing her employer to give her 52 more days of paid vacation per year to use as she pleases. It’s no good if she works like a [substitution: canine] all year to take a two-month-long holiday in winter, leaving her weekly work-life balance still out of whack.

    Legislators improve a private sector employee’s work-life balance by forcing her employer to give her extra time off during the work week, with pay, while she is young enough to enjoy it. It’s good because she now has the ideal work-life balance that the wise and generous legislators want her to have.

    Whether she wants it or not.

    Only one more thing to make life perfect: no moonlighting on her extra day off to make extra money for luxuries. Because it’s no good legislators giving her the ideal work-life balance if she discards it of her own free will. That would be the worst thing of all.

  24. Emery Says:

    ^ It’s quite comical to see the new crowd of fake Republicans cheering for Government to bully private companies.

    DeSantis and “small gov” freedom GOP. Cutting off his tribute, he lashes back with the full force of the state government he controls. Because ‘freedom’.

    Florida governor signs bill stripping Disney of self-governing authority
    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/florida-governor-signs-bill-stripping-disney-self-governing-authority-2022-04-22/

  25. jdm Says:

    ^ It’s also quite comical that you lefties think you can guilt the new right to behave as you wish. I’ve said it here before and I’ll continue to say it, but the new right is going to use the same tools (policies, laws, rules, weapons) against you that you’ve become comfortable using against the old right.

  26. Emery Says:

    Party of free speech and big business throws tantrum at a big business for speaking freely. What are they smoking down there?

  27. justplainangry Says:

    MP, duly noted.

  28. Blade Nzimande Says:

    I’m waiting for the GOP to become the party of whatever it takes to crush reprobate leftists and degenerate child grooming scumbags into fine powder, rescind the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 and end the rampage of violent, feral blacks…

    Then I may consider coming back.

  29. Joe Doakes Says:

    Liberals insist Free Speech has consequences. Just playing by the new rules, E.

    Besides, why should a billion-dollar international corporation enjoy special legislative perks not afforded to other businesses, women, children, minorities, trans, and illegal aliens? Why do you favor corporations over people?

  30. Emery Says:

    ^ Didn’t Citizens United provide corporations with the right of free speech? Isn’t part of the protections of free speech to be free of government retaliation? Anybody a free speech expert out there?

  31. Mammuthus Primigenesis Says:

    ^^Ignorance has found its voice.

  32. Emery Says:

    ^ What a load of tanned testicles —you’re killing me Smalls!

  33. Joe Doakes Says:

    You are trying to apply Alinsky Rules for Radicals, E, specifically the admonition to make the enemy live up to its own Book of Rules. You think conservatives value free speech and we’re being hypocritical for supporting the Florida legislature’s actions against Disney. The problem is that’s not the Book of Rules anymore.

    Those were the old rules. They have been replaced. We now follow the new rules, the rules promulgated by liberals. So there’s no problem with punishing people who speak out, because that’s the Book of Rules we both use.

    Sure,cCitizens United says corporations have speech rights. Disney has speech rights. But so did Joe the Plumber, and look what happened to him. So did Masterpiece cakeshop, and Majestic pizza, and lots of other entities who have been punished under the new liberal rules.

    Sauce for the goose, baby, sauce for the goose.

  34. Mammuthus Primigenesis Says:

    And the troll continues to promote his ignorance as knowledge.
    Kind of sucks for him lately. Maybe he needs a good cry?

  35. justplainangry Says:

    JD, can you please point out to me where in CU ruling it says that corporations have a RIGHT to a tax-free existence? How is CU even relevant? I think MP is more on the money, trollbots are getting more and more desperate.

  36. Emery Says:

    “Say stuff we don’t like and you should expect the government to retaliate” is really an amazing new conservative position. So the whole freedom of speech thing that the GOP strongly supports only works when you say what they want you to say. Do I have that right?

    I’m just trying to imagine what folks on the right would say if a liberal politician said they might back off Hobby Lobby if they changed their politics.

  37. Joe Doakes Says:

    You tell me, e. Your side is the one making up the new rules.

    “I don’t agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it,” used to be a proud Liberal position. Not anymore. Now, it “you can agree with The Narrative any way you like, in song or prose, art or interpretive dance, but don’t you dare say anything we dislike or we will crush you.”

    Sauce for the goose baby.

  38. Joe Doakes Says:

    Further explanation for the quiet SITD readers, the ones who take it all in and think it all over:

    The Founders living under King George III knew what it was like to be punished for purely political speech. They wrote the First Amendment to explicitly clarify the limitation on government power imposed by the Constitution. The original rule was: freedom of speech for me and for thee.

    Conservatives played by that rule but Liberals chafed under it, first pushing the boundaries using the courts and later, promulgating a new rule from the White House: freedom of speech for me, back of the hand for thee. Conservatives started losing cultural battles on the way to losing the cultural war.

    Conservatives smiled bravely and gamely stuck to their guns as Obama sicced the government on individual critics and the IRS on Conservative political groups, as the FBI lied to federal judges to wiretap a political campaign and the Deep State installed Lesko Brandon as its puppet.

    But doing the same thing and expecting different results is the definition of insanity. To win, either Liberals must come back to the original rule or Conservatives must abandon the original rule. If Liberals get a big enough taste of their own medicine living under the new rule, maybe they’ll remember why the original rule – flawed as it may have been – was better than the new rule.

    So we’re not cowering anymore. We’re pushing back. We’re playing by the rule Liberals insist we play by. It a dumb rule, it’s bad for society, it’s a risky path that may lead to even greater excesses in the wrong direction, but it’s the only path left to us. Until Liberals give up trying to destroy the nation, Conservatives won’t give up trying to save it, using whatever rules are necessary.

    Mutually assured destruction. Or as I like to say: Sauce for the goose, baby, sauce for the goose.

  39. bosshoss429 Says:

    A couple of points:
    bike; when I lived in SoCal from 79 – mid 81, there was a term GUD for friendships. Many people were deemed to be Geographically UnDesirable due to the distance people lived from each other.
    jpa; when I first got to Houston in mid 81, there was far more rubber than asphalt, so commute times were insane. It eased up a bit when the oil industry tanked, but, when I left in 89, if I didn’t leave my office downtown, by 5, I could seriously add a half hour to my commute and about an hour on Fridays. Fortunately, I was able to avoid one end by leaving my house at 6:30 a.m. getting to my office by 7.
    Loren; you bring up a great point in your analysis. Of those 32 or even 40 hours are actually spent working? My cousin worked for Ricoh selling printers, copiers, etc. They had a managed printer plan that was implemented at many of his customers. The printers were placed strategically to avoid going past break rooms and providing the shortest routes to them, for the most workers. Their studies, as have many others, showed that people spent a lot of unproductive time retrieving documents. Lots of socializing goes on in most offices.
    JD; yup! The ACLU used to defend anyone, but now, they only defend lefties.

  40. bosshoss429 Says:

    One more thing.

    Last week, both the Kenyan Klown and SHillary Clinton, tweeted out advocacy for censoring views opposing the narrative, by Big Tech, to “save democracy”. That is the new buzz phrase for the DemoCommies. To them, it means we know what’s best for you peasants, so don’t try to think for yourselves.

  41. Blade Nzimande Says:

    Did Florida punish Disney for using their freedom of speech to support grooming children for degenerate sex? Yup.

    Isn’t that unConstitutional? Yup.

    Do I approve? Yup.

  42. Ian Says:

    Didn’t Citizens United provide corporations with the right of free speech? Isn’t part of the protections of free speech to be free of government retaliation? Anybody a free speech expert out there?

    Work this over in your cut-and-paste noodle, Emery: Disney won’t lose the same rights as everyone else when their little fiefdom expires, they will lose special rights. They’ve been allowed to govern themselves, within reason. Churches are tax-exempt, but their exemption comes with strings: If they weigh in politically, they should lose their tax-exempt status. Curiously, though, the enforcement seems to be lax when it’s a Democratic politician speaking from the pulpit. But the rule persists. If Disney chooses to adopt an antagonistic relationship with the state government with whom they’ve had a special relationship, they can go back to being a regular tax-paying corporation. Nothing controversial about that.

  43. Emery Says:

    The legislation probably won’t amount to much. It’s more of a campaign document. Any removal of the special district will saddle the counties with both debt and services obligation, and require them to raise tax revenue in a way that may not be beneficial to other taxpayers. As it is, costs of Disney services and debt are paid only by Disney properties, but that may not be legal or possible if the district disappears.

    Any impact on Disney will be mitigated by price increases and layoffs of Floridians, and will impact future investment decisions at Disney World and Epcot. Disney isn’t legally obligated to invest in those properties, and has many other profitable businesses that will absorb the investment money going forward. Trying to punish Disney isn’t as easy as punishing some transgender kid.

  44. Mammuthus Primigenesis Says:

    Via Powerline, I have learned that the American president has defended Disney’s right to free speech with the elegance of Cicero. Well, Cicero’s dog:
    “There’s nothing conservative about deciding you’re going to throw Disney out of its present posture because Mickey Mouse? In fact, do you think we should be not be able to say, you know, ‘gay’? I mean, what’s going on here?”

  45. Night Writer Says:

    New tag: SFTG. Sauce for the Goose.

  46. jdm Says:

    Emery on April 25, 2022 at 8:55 am

    Oh, those grapes were probably sour anyway.

  47. Emery Says:

    I see the whole controversy as mainly a play by DeSantis to pick a fight that resonates with Republican primary voters.

  48. Mammuthus Primigenesis Says:

    So DeSantis is facing a popular Republican rival?
    Don’t be absurd.
    DeSantis saw a low & slow ball and he swung at it.
    Believe it or not, most parents do not want teachers discussing sex with K-3 children
    I really hope the dems keep pushing their agenda.

  49. Ian Says:

    I see the whole controversy as mainly a play by DeSantis to pick a fight that resonates with Republican primary voters.

    First off, the Florida legislature voted to end Disney’s self-government, and DeSantis signed it.

    Secondly, it was the Left that turned this particular molehill into a mountain, first by grossly misrepresenting the bill as “Don’t Say Gay”, then by acting like Disney is entitled to special privileges whereby they can actively campaign against the same government that granted them those special privileges with impunity. Disney wants to exercise free speech rights? Fine, make them truly free by severing the special relationship with the government and treating them the same as the rest of us. Where’s the controversy?

  50. Emery Says:

    ^ Would you consider former president Trump a popular political rival?

    As I understand it, the law covering this agreement with Disney states the agreement can not be rescinded without the consent of the owners of the land, that is, Disney. This makes sense since Disney’s lawyers would not have allowed them to sign an agreement and make such a huge investment that could then be destroyed anytime in the future.

    So the predicted negotiations will come down to Desantis and friends backing down and the entire issue evaporating. That makes all of this just another nonsense publicity stunt intended to show how tough Desantis is as he prepares to run for president.

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