This is Giorgia Meloni, the new prime MInister of Italy.
The media is referring to her as “Far Right” – or, in moments of revelatory candor, “Fascist”.
Check out the speech. You be the judge – while you still can.
And remember – if William F. Buckley, Jack Kemp, Barry Goldwater, Margaret Thatcher, Ronald Reagan, Lech Wałęsa and Newt Gingrich were coming onto the scene today, they’d all be called “fascists” too.
How do we know that?
Because they said it back then, too.
Leftists Announce They No Longer Support Strong, Independent Women
“This is an absolute disaster. Maybe women do belong in the kitchen,” said Italian Leftist Atlantic contributor Gianna Mozzarella. “If we had spent less time empowering women, maybe we could have stopped this far, far-right, right-wing fascist, far-extremist far, far, Nazi right-extremist right-winger from getting elected.”
I have never met an Italian.
I have met people from Italy, but they all identified themselves as Bolognese, Fiorentini, Torinese, Romani, etc.
Maybe that is why Italian national governments are notoriously unstable.
I’m not a fan of Italy electing a fascist, although I do approve the Italian’s past approach to retirement of such people.
Wrong again Emery, if Italy had elected a fascist you’d be queuing up to lick her boots like you do every other authoritarian mass murderer.
^ So, there it is, just label a politician a fascist (or a “far, far-right, right-wing fascist, far-extremist far, far, Nazi right-extremist right-winger” fascist) and hanging them to death on a lamp pole is step 2. Easy-peasy.
That’s what the Emerys have in mind for Trump (and his followers).
😍🥰 Spin ’em up!
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Don’t let the Dems forget that one of their heroes, Democrat Senator Robert Byrd, was a Grand Cyclops in the KKK.
Byrd says that he quit the KKK, but there is nothing that documents this. Byrd himself says he left the KKK in the 50s when he stopped paying dues. I wonder what he did with the white sheet and hood? If he really did quit the KKK in the 50s, it didn’t really matter. His record setting 15 hour filibuster against the Voting rights Act was in the 60s, and he continued to be a proud member of the segregationist bloc of the Democrat party through the 1960s.
The Meloni government will only have a short honeymoon before the markets and Italy allies will react. And the ECB won’t really come to the rescue either. A painful period ahead for Italy until the Meloni government eventually collapses. Sadly, fascism is back in Europe, where it has no space.
Spot the fascist:
https://blackhistorycollection.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/maxresdefault.jpg?w=600&h=450
Emery couldn’t define fascism if he tried. His masters have issued orders that until further notice Italy must be described as fascist at every opportunity.
One more far right Politician who is catering to the voters’ desire to “break something”. The problem is, breaking stuff by itself is not a solution. These extremist clowns have no clue how to build. As we have seen with Trump and Brexiters — Italians will find out something bad and broken can be made much worse and broken beyond repair.
A painful period ahead for Italy until the Meloni government eventually collapses.
And then! String her up! Right next to Trump!
The problem is, breaking stuff by itself is not a solution
It’s already broken. 20% inflation. No electricity. Criminal illegal immigrants. You and your lik have already broken everything – just like in MN.
But abortion!
Both Jensen and Schultz have declared that they will fight to ban abortions. If both the Minnesota House and Senate were to become under GOP control they could and will vote to put a constitutional amendment banning abortion on the next general election ballot.
Banning abortion is high in the GOP agenda, then they will work to ban gay marriage..
“they could and will vote to put a constitutional amendment banning abortion on the next general election ballot.”
So, Emery, today you are against democracy?
Minnesota GOP memo to candidates: Abortion is a ‘protected constitutional right’
https://www.startribune.com/mn-gop-memo-to-candidates-abortion-is-a-protected-constitutional-right/600210432/
Struggling with messaging? Here is a message, Your polices and positions are simply not popular with voters. Lying about it doesn’t make them any better.
Last week the Strib trumpeted the results of its survey showing “The majority of Minnesotans support right to abortion.” That majority was 52%; a majority in the true sense of the word, but hardly an overwhelming mandate, or one that suggests this is the wedge issue the Dems are hoping for.
Abortion is the red flag they’re waving to keep the voters from focusing on the fact that the Dems in power in the state and in the metro have screwed the pooch so thoroughly that it needs a morning-after pill.
It’s not really a shift in tone so much as an instruction to deceive voters. Rarely do we get to see an entire political party so shamelessly try to conceal from the public one of its core missions. Now will GOP candidates follow their leaders’ advice to campaign as weasels, or will they proudly stand up for their stated belief that women and doctors should go to prison for abortions?
Wrong, AGAIN, bot boy Emery!
You have projected again to cover the SOP of your economically illiterate, hypocritical party of choice, the actual fascists. When your party encourages censorship of the opposing party via corporations, they have proven it.
The Minnesota constitution is a “soft” constitution. It has been amended 120 times (more or less) since it was ratified in the 1850s.
All you have to do is have a majority in both houses vote to propose an amendment. It then goes before the people at the next general election.
The governor & AG have no role to play in the process.
Are you for or against Democracy today, Emery?
This is typical Lefty behavior. Claim that your policies are incredibly popular, but shriek like a little girl when it is proposed that the people actually vote for them.
^^ But… but… I received the MCCL flyer in the mail telling me how much the GOP team will do to stop abortion!
Too late—we know the truth. The Republicans want to restrict and do away with abortion rights. That is their stated goal—I believe them.
So we are told that the MN state constitution protects the right to an abortion.
But the MN constitution doesn’t mention abortion. The idea that the right is in there somewhere was decided by the MN SC in 1995, Doe v Gomez.
The courts reasoning looks an awful lot like the US SC’s reasoning in Roe v Wade. It was kind of lurking in the MN Bill of Rights all along, unbeknown to the people who actually wrote the MN Bill of Rights.
I am a strong believer in democracy. People who are against abortion, D or R, should clamber for a vote on abortion, let the chips fall where they may, and let the losers start doing the hard work of dialoging with the voters. A yes or no decision on abortion should not be left in the hands of democratically unaccountable judges.
The number of people who care what MN GOP leadership thinks is not large.
Also, I am not a resident of Minnesota. So I really don’t give a flying f*ck what the MN GOP leadership thinks. You should adopt that same attitude. Most Minnesotans already have.
Back on topic — I think only Juncker expressed the problem more pithily (and I paraphrase)
‘There are only two types of nations in the EU: small ones and small ones that have not yet realized that they are small. And then there’s also Great Britain and the Great Dutchy of Luxembourg.’
Italians have the strange mix of indifference —so long as there’s food and entrenched social conservatism, which makes them extremely easy prey for dog whistle politics.
And once elected (if they are), the GOP will go back to their original stances. The forced-birth dog is surprised to have caught the pro-choice car, and is now confused about what to do with it….
Moderation is 🔥 today
Apologies. When i used the abortion thing to ridicule the little weasel, it hadn’t occurred to me that he would run with it as a threadjack
I simply do not understand how Meloni can be seen as the revival of Mussolini, unless Joe Biden can be seen as the revival of George Wallace.
The elites don’t like Meloni because she sees through their bullshit.
Trudeau curtails speech, arrests preachers, and freezes the bank accounts of his political opponents. Is he a fascist? Nope, say the elites, Trudeau is a wise, strong ruler who simply cares for his people.
^^ Largely a reaction to liberal progressive overreach and failures, especially on immigration, and the unpopularity of globalization at the moment. The pendulum is swinging as it always does.
FYI, Trump has NEVER persecuted his political opponents to the extent that Trudeau has persecuted his political opponents, or the Democrats have persecuted Trump.
If you are Democrat, the easiest way to find a fascist is to look in a mirror.
Still waiting for exactly what characterizes Meloni as a fascist. As I see things, she’s saying a lot of things that Barack Obama said when running for President in 2008. There are a couple of cringeworthy praises of Mussolini and a later fascist, but to be fair to her, the praise of Mussolini was just as a “good politician”. Really, I don’t think any sane fascist would praise Mussolini as a leader because his actions were so disastrous for his nation.
The worst I can say for Meloni is that she does seem to have a respect for Viktor Orban, but even that’s subject to the question “is it the rappochement with Russia and suppression of civil rights, or is it reasonable restriction of immigration?”
Mussolini enjoyed publicly referring to Jewish people as “financial speculators” who needed to be controlled.
Meloni says “we will never be slaves…at the mercy of financial speculators.” Sounds just like 1930s in Italy and Germany.
21st century fascism:
August 9, 2021:
PayPal and the Anti-Defamation League, a Jewish advocacy group, announced a new partnership initiative last week to combat racism, hate, and extremism across PayPal’s platform and the financial industry more broadly.
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PayPal says that the new initiative will not change the way it operates “in any way,” a spokesman told the Washington Examiner. “PayPal’s long-standing policy is not to allow our services to be used for activities that promote hate, violence, or racial intolerance.”
“We base our reviews of accounts on these parameters, taking action when we deem that individuals or organizations have violated this policy,” the spokesman said.
On September 22 of this year, Paypal banned Britain’s Free Speech Union. The FSU had received about 25% of its operational expenses via Paypal donations.
Paypal has given no reason for banning the FSU because it doesn’t have to.
When a Fascist leader speaks, whether in Europe or America, never brush aside what you are hearing as meaningless rhetoric. And please never take it at face value when and if Fascist leaders in America or Europe tell you that they have no personal or political animus toward Jews or other minority groups in society. Too many examples in history tell us the opposite.
Hey y’all!
Remember that one time practitioners and supporters of sodomy pointed at a proposed constitutional amendment codifying marriage as the union of a man and woman, squirting rainbow tears and sobbing “it’s already against the law…this is just piling oooooon!!!”
And then proceeded to revoke the law.
And now the same scumbags are doing the same thing, in reverse. 😂
BTW…the ADL is manipulating financial transactions?
Hey, hey, hey…. Watch it with the anti Semitic lies!
Emery, regarding “financial speculators”, I believe that no less than Adam Smith noted that when people of the same trade get together, a conspiracy against the public to raise prices is in the offing. Was he a fascist? What about all the Democrats who blamed financial institutions for the devastation in 2008-9? Are they all fascists?
Really, your fallacy is “guilt by association”, or really, “guilt by very tenuous and economically suspect association”, as mainstream economists have warned against the phenonenon of “rent-seeking” since Smith and even before.
“financial speculators”…like the murderous authoritarians Emery slavishly venerates, Emery wholeheartedly embraces their Blood Libel
Financial speculators? Like Congress members buying and selling their stocks before the laws and regulations they approved go public?
Emery, enemy of anti-Semitism, wrote the following on March 23, 2015
I would like to see a single coherent example of how the USA’s supposed “alliance” with Israel benefits the USA in a tangible and concrete way. No, vague statements about “shared values and interests” don’t count. Trading and economic ties? Ours with Mexico, Japan, and Canada are much bigger. Simply put, Israel is a dependent client state.
https://www.shotinthedark.info/wp/?p=51774#comment-136176
And here is Emery on August 27, 2015, saying that Israel must not be a Jewish state:
Israel is a country where people have separate rights depending on whether they are Jews or Arabs. As long as that is the case, there will be no peace in or around Israel. Call it racism, zionism, or apartheid, but as long as an Arab living in an area under Israeli control does not have all the rights of a Jew, Arab and Jew will fight. Forming Bantustans for Palestinians will never solve the problem. Israel must change, and become a normal nation with equal rights for all.
http://www.shotinthedark.info/wp/?p=54929
When a Fascist leader speaks, whether in Europe or America, never brush aside what you are hearing as meaningless rhetoric. And please never take it at face value when and if Fascist leaders in America or Europe tell you that they have no personal or political animus toward Jews or other minority groups in society. Too many examples in history tell us the opposite.
In other words, Emery, when the media and progressives bark that a person is fascist, there is no amount of evidence that will persuade you otherwise. For the rest of us, there’s the principle of “falsifiability”.
And really, if you want people with a demonstrated animus against Jews, can we talk about Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ayanna Presley, and Rashida Tlaib? There we’ve actually got clear evidence. Then what about the movement to compel companies,mutual funds, and the like not to invest in Israel?
You’ll notice the progressive left stands for this, but Ms. Meloni does not. Hint, hint; if you want to find anti-Semites and fascists (e.g. “Anti-fa” and “Occupy”), you don’t need to cross the Tiber to find them.
Fascism:
“A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.“
Lads, if you don’t realize we’re living in a Fascist country, it’s because it’s the leftist version.
I prefer the original flavor with a walloping dollop of Nationalism on the side. .
Apparently, Meloni’s liberal opponent: Nascent fascism in Italy is “absolutely fake news.”
Shame that Emery’s wet dream about seeing Meloni’s carcass hanging from a lamp pole is… but a dream. But there’s still Trump… no, wait, DeSantis is even worse!!!!
Meloni, Mussolini, and the Media
They claimed Ronald Reagan was a fascist. As was Bush Sr., Bush Jr., McCain, Romney, and Trump. As I type, the press is pivoting from “Trump is literally Hitler” to “DeSantis is even more Hitlery than Hitler.” Hell, they thought Liz Cheney was a fascist until a few years ago.
Funny how leftists get such hard-ons for fascists.
She’s not a Fascist, it’s just that she used to admire a Fascist, has used a Fascist symbol for her party and bits of Fascism keep bumping up against her and her party in a coincidental manner.
But in absolutely no way is she a Fascist or has any links to Fascism.
I am sure that she will be as good for Italy as was Berlusconi.
when lesko brandons world wide economic collapse hits the north shore of africa and thousands of illegal immigrants head for italy that will be the true test of this woman
let them ashore to claim refugee status and suck at the public teat for generations while thieving and raping on the side or
sink the ships
She’s not a Fascist
Joe Doakes was right. There is no Emery, there’s multiple. They write whatever they want even when it contradicts what they wrote a few hours before.
Italians are not like Americans. They are . . . operatic. They choose to belong to the Reds (commies) or the Blacks (fascists). But it is all a kind of a game with them, like a Minnesotan wearing Helga braids to a Vikings game.
I’ve known a few Italian scientists. They had a fine sense of the dramatic. I don’t know how else to describe it. Excellent scientists, but Jeebus, forget the drama.
One Italian scientist guy I knew was really, good. He had an idea that we could use our giant telescope to watch one of the moons of Saturn emerge from eclipse and measure the components of its atmosphere with a spectrometer as the sun warmed it up. The amount of atmosphere revaporized depended on the solar flux! Brilliant! But there were technical problems because our adaptive optics system could not track the moon while it emerged from eclipse. No light source to track, even in the infrared, since it was eclipsed!
I met the guy at our half way facility on Mauna Kea (kind of like a like lumber jack camp) and he was tiny the way some Italian guys are tiny, and he was dressed like a male fashion model. Shaded sunglasses, a three piece suit, and a snappy fedora. Add a stereotypical Italian accent and you can imagine how difficult it was for me not to laugh.
But the guy was brilliant. His plan to measure atmospheric abundances of organic molecules in the atmosphere of Titan only failed because our PhD guys had not examined his observing proposal as well as they should have.
The only scientist I ever met who could speak fluent Klingon (yes, I know, it’s a made up language) was an Italian scientist. The last I heard she is now working for ESO down in Chile . . .