“But Mitch – why are you so intransigent a Second Amendment advocate?”
Glad you asked.
Growing up left of center as I did, the first real inkling I had that gun control was a stupid idea was reading about the Holocaust, and realizing that armed people don’t get shoved into boxcars.
And seeing the same story – modern Nazis trying to murder modern Jews – is a refresher.
Like this story, of three good guys with guns:
Seeing what’s going on in streets of the West today isn’t anything to make you feel like this sort of thing isn’t possible in the US.
Last month, as eighty years ago, the difference between death and at least a chance at life was having a gun.
From.
My.
Cold.
Dead.
Hand.
You’re right Mitch. As the NYT reminds us, people need to arm themselves to defend against mindless violence and hatred.
Settler Violence Rising Against Palestinians in the West Bank
“Attacks on Palestinians in the occupied West Bank are surging, with at least 115 killed, more than 2,000 injured and nearly 1,000 others forcibly displaced from their homes because of violence and intimidation by Israeli forces and settlers since Hamas attacked Israel on Oct. 7, according the United Nations.
Among the dead are 33 children, according to an update on Sunday from the U.N. Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs.”
Blade;
The anti semities at the UN are about as reliable as CNN for reporting the truth.
From the notoriously anti Semitic NYT
“Israel’s national security minister, Itamar Ben-Gvir, announced that his ministry was purchasing 10,000 rifles in order to arm civilians, specifying among the intended recipients those in West Bank settlements.
Much of the violence in the territory has been directed at herders and Bedouin communities. Those Palestinians have faced physical violence and intimidation and also been denied access to their lands, a particular hardship given that many are farmers.
The Palestinian hamlet of Khirbet al-Ratheem, in the hills of Hebron, is now completely emptied of its population of about 50 people.”
No mention of boxcars yet…evidently modern Brownshirts make their victims walk, so it’s all good.
Ya know, I read these stories of the mass murders of their children, forced removal from their ancestral lands and the bulldozing of their homes by an armed, occupying paramilitary force, and I just can’t understand why the Palestinians are so upset.
Taking a quick break from defending the necessity of being armed to defend one’s family, I’d like to observe that today is the 256th Anniversary of the Weimerican Marine Corps..
Hoohya!
Our resident narcissist writes:
Uh-huh, and just what constitutes a “child”?
In other words, a knife wielding ISIS inspired terrorist, who happens to be under the age of majority = 1 child victim.
Keep in mind that the vast majority of carjackings in the metro area are committed by “children”.
BTW: we are still waiting for Hamas to separate its fighters from the list of “civilian” casualties.
I read somewhere the Biden administration promised to give rifles to Israel but only if they don’t hand them out to civilians for self-defense. Can anyone confirm that’s true?
Greg, these particular massacres and forced removals are occurring in the occupied West Bank, not the massacres occurring in Gaza.
Hamas doesn’t operate in the West Bank, and there is no mention of any paramilitary actions there by Palestinians…they’re farmers and goat herders just trying to get by under a brutal occupation.
But hey, I understand it’s tough to defend the killing of children, and you’re doing the best you can.
GOOD JOB
Maybe this is what you’re thinking of Bigman:
U.S. Officials Fear American Guns Ordered by Israel Could Fuel West Bank Violence
Israel wants 24,000 assault rifles. Itamar Ben-Gvir, a far-right minister overseeing the police, has given rifles to civilians and is forming “security squads.”
NYT
By Edward Wong, Patrick Kingsley
Nov 05, 2023 11:55 PM
An Israeli government request for 24,000 assault rifles from the United States is drawing scrutiny from American lawmakers and some State Department officials who fear the weapons might end up in the hands of settlers and civilian militias trying to force Palestinians from land in the West Bank, where violence has been surging, U.S. officials say.
The spectacle of Pedo Joe’s handlers promising to ban possession of semi auto AR platform rifles by law abiding Weimericans while simultaneously arming Israeli citizens with full auto M4’s to slaughter unarmed men, women and children living under occupation is breathtaking.
We’d be remiss not to observe the utter lunacy of worrying about M4 rifles while Weimerica is sending the Israeli’s 2000lb HE bombs to drop on packed refugee camps.
packed refugee camps.
Kept packed by a regime that brags about using them as human shields .
Ackshewelly Mitch, they’re packed under orders from the IDF to go to the South…remember?
Where else are they going to go?
And while I don’t deny that Hamas sites their operations within civilian infrastructure, I don’t recall them “bragging” about it…perhaps you’ve got an example?
Also, let us not forget to mention that the Uke’s have been doing the same thing.
Also, let’s consider the thinking that goes behind dropping 2000lb bombs on refugee camps.
“Hamas is hiding in the Jabalia refugee camp, General!”
“Drop some bunker busters on them, Colonel”
“But there are 25,000 people in there. 1/2 of them are children, sir”
“Fuck ’em”
Weimerican troops faced enemies who hid within civilian populations, but the rules of engagement they operated under required them ascertain positive ID; that is to reasonably believe that that particular person is an enemy combatant.
Several Marines were charged for breaking those rules, although I think the charged were dropped administratively.
The IDF isn’t even trying to hide what they’re doing….but how could they?
Somehow I’m not shocked at all to see that our resident anti-Semite is accepting the word of the U.N., agents of which admitted a few days ago that they’d never really questioned the numbers coming from Hamas.
And Kremlin Tom calls other people here stupid. Look in the mirror, Auschwitz Tom.
the rules of engagement they operated under required them ascertain positive ID
Curious as to whether these rules applied on October 7.
Typical symptom of narcissism: respond with a non-sequitur then gleefully declare it a victory.
In response, I will type really slow, so you can follow along reading the letter by pointing with your index finger and sounding out the words:
What constitutes a child in your statement:
As a follow up question: How many of them were armed?
Just let me guess, the majority of these “children” were in their middle to late teens and were actively engaging in murderous Hamas/ISIS inspired attacks – but being wholly dishonest Hamas, the PLO, the UN and you try to pawn them off as innocent children to flog an utterly false narrative.
GOOD JOB!!
BTW: if these questions are too complicated for your simple mind, just say so.
accepting the word of the U.N., agents of which admitted a few days ago that they’d never really questioned the numbers coming from Hamas.
The number I cite are all over the web. I chose the UN because I thought y’all would see it as neutral…but no, they’re antisemitic Nazis, too. So OK….Where did you read that, Mr. Bubble?
Curious as to whether these rules applied on October 7.
Obviously not, jdm. That was some heinous shit, no doubt. But I can at least say the Weimerica makes an attempt at not engaging in savagery, while it’s clear the IDF is diving right in with Hamas.
As I’ve stated from the beginning; the slaughter turns my stomach, but when you get right down to it I really don’t gaf what happens over there; it’s savages against savages….I object to being forced to facilitate it with my treasure and with the approval of my bought and paid for, erstwhile government while boomer neocons clap like trained seals.
Typical symptom of narcissism: respond with a non-sequitur then gleefully declare it a victory.
Dude…you were responding to a quote from the NYT regarding killings in the West Bank. Said “West Bank” right in the text….how does that not follow?
I’m gleefully declaring you a nitwit.
What constitutes a child in your statement:
To me? 12 down to swaddled infant…there’s plenty of pictures of them all blown to shit floating around.
As a follow up question: How many of them were armed?
As there has not bee any reported deaths of Israeli’s, I’d say none. If you have new info, by all means let’s have it.
“As there has not bee any reported deaths of Israeli’s [in the West Bank], I’d say none.”
Clarified again, for the slow witted among us.
As a fellow old fat guy who is no less committed to protecting my family, myself and my community (in that order), I found this story inspirational. Thanks Mitch.
I completely understand and acknowledge the benefits of physical fitness in combat, and have great respect for those who are diligent enough to maintain their fitness into their sunset years, but never underestimate an old fat guy with a rifle…there’s a good chance he knows how to use it.
Ramirez nails it
https://www.reviewjournal.com/opinion/michael-ramirez/cartoon-what-hamas-is-really-doing-2934584/
Everyone here knows that the quote you cited and I responded to referenced the West Bank.
This lame “it’s the West Bank” gambit to dodge responding to the question of whether the “33 children” cited in the quote, were in fact teens who were engaged in armed violence against the IDF IN THE WEST BANK is (somewhat) amusing.
It’s despicable, Pig….but it’s pretty common among rogue military outfits.
I didn’t dodge shit, Greg. Answered all your questions…
As far as I’ve seen, the only people dying in the West Bank are children and goat herders trying to get to their fields. No reports of infants popping up with Kalashnikov rifles. If you have evidence to the contrary, by all means now is the time…
NEXT
Again this stream of propaganda that screeches “civilians killed” fails to distinguish how many of them are in fact terrorists. Likewise, the “children killed” gambit fails to distinguish, how many of them are Hamas fighters IN GAZA or jihadists ON THE WEST BANK
To illustrate imagine two <i.hypothetical headlines:
1) A headline in a major metro newspaper ostensibly owned by a republican billionaire which reads, "Minneapolis Police kill Somali child".
2) Referencing the same incident, a Minnesota online news blog writes "Carjacker killed in gunfight with police".
I ask which article the "Blades" of the world would cite?
Greg, you’re off the damn rails, old fella…put down the cocktail.
We’re not talking about MPD, or Somalis, or carjackers…we’re talking about “115 killed, more than 2,000 injured and nearly 1,000 others forcibly displaced from their homes because of violence and intimidation by Israeli forces and settlers”
You say there’s preschoolers running around with AK47’s. I say OK, I haven’t seen a report of any Israeli’s killed in the West Bank; only children, goat herders and women; I cited my source, so if you’ve got some evidence toddlers are mowing IDF or settlers down with AK47’s, let’s have it.
Maybe wait until you sober up to try and answer it again.
Question: Is Blade an idiot or does he just pretend to be one?
Answer: Does it matter?
There ya go, Greggie. You have nothing, so keep it simple and don’t strain that one functioning brain cell too hard.
GOOD JOB 👍🏻
I was watching some video on Funker530, a very cool military YouTube channel when it occurred to me that although I wish October 7th had never happened, it’s a relief to watch a country at war actually try to win, in contrast to the performance of USA leadership in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Golfdoc:
Yep. .
May Saar’s memory be a blessing, and thanks be to God that the vicious murderers , wolves, al-khanzir, khazzerim, met some sheepdogs and paid the price for it.
And of course, Auschwitz Tom doesn’t want to believe that Hamas is hiding behind civilians, and doesn’t want to believe that young Gazans might have been indoctrinated to the point of becoming terrorists themselves. Nope, nosirree, things that have been known for decades don’t penetrate his keen mind.
You’re fixing to become pariah’s, Patriots™️. Take a big bite out of the shit taco your pals and our Greatest Ally have cooked up.👇
Blinken brings a notable shift in US language toward Israel as pressure mounts at home and abroad
Blinken denounces Gazan death toll, marking a notable shift in US language
A rising death toll in Gaza. Large protests across the globe. Increasing discomfort in the White House.
To this point, more than 11,000 Palestinians have been killed in Israeli attacks on Gaza.
The ferocity of the military operation shows no sign of letting up. On Friday, Israeli tanks surrounded a Gaza hospital, its director told CNN, as the territory’s largest healthcare facility came under a reported “bombardment.”
Bloodthirsty savages; all of them.
Gaza is Israels Dresden…and once again, Weimerica is paying the tab.
I honestly don’t think I’ll ever fly the flag of the former United States of America again. I know the one I have is going into the trash tonight.
Oh boy! Does that mean you will be (hopefully) leaving the country soon? May I suggest Putin’s Russia as your landing place?
It has many advantages for the attention-seeking narcissist, despite the cold weather.
– A foreign policy tailored to your views.
– A fearless leader whom you have expressed admiration for on many occasions.
– Not a lot of Jews. A big plus.
– All kinds of minorities to hate.
– Lots of mindless drunks to engage in philosophical discussion with (between bouts of barfing).
– And clowns. The Russians are obsessed with clowns and circuses. You will fit right in.
But if Russia is not your thing, consider North Korea. You will love their leader and (hopefully) he will love you.
– A foreign policy tailored to your views.
What are my foreign policy views?
– A fearless leader whom you have expressed admiration for on many occasions.
When did I express admiration for Putin? I’ve named him a mobster.
– Not a lot of Jews. A big plus.
Russia has the 3rd largest Jewish population in the world (tied with Canada and France)
– All kinds of minorities to hate.
Russians – >80%. Tatars – 3.8%, Ukrainians – 3%, Chuvash – 1.8%, Belarusians – 0.8%, Mordovians – 0.7%, Germans and Chechens – 0.6%, Avars, Armenians, Jews – 0.4%
– Lots of mindless drunks to engage in philosophical discussion with (between bouts of barfing).
I find there’s plenty of that right here between you and Emery, Greggie. But I aver there’s a much better chance that Russian drunks would occasionally make a cogent point or at least stumble on something factually true.
Our resident attention-seeking narcissist posted the following quote:
When confronted with the fact that many of these “children” are simply terrorists who happen to be under the age of majority, he played the clown, as he always does with confronted by anything that contradicts his narrative.
Well let’s look at a case with a local connection: Dunwoody High grad who became an Israeli police officer killed in Jerusalem knife attack
Note: the 16 year old terrorist was (thankfully) killed in self-defense, but our resident attention-seeking narcissist (and the UN) classifies him as a “child” for propaganda purposes.
But not all Palestinian terrorist children are of the ripe old age of 16. Dima al-Wawi, a 12-year-old Palestinian girl, was released from an Israeli prison on Sunday, after spending two months behind bars on an attempted murder charge.She was not killed, so therefore could not be exploited by narcissists as a propaganda tool.
Speaking of Russia. It’s easy to see where they who call the shots in Weimerica have no control…
The Russian mob has little enough authority to stand for human decency, but the rulers of Weimerica have less. Weimerica’s moral standing among civilized people is sinking faster than the value of it’s fiat currency. However, we must remember there’s not much danger of being canceled in Russia for speaking out against Zionism.
The United States on Wednesday vetoed a UN Security Council resolution that would have called for “humanitarian pauses” to deliver lifesaving aid to millions in Gaza. The failure by the Council to make its first public intervention on the Israel-Gaza crisis followed the rejection of a Russian-backed draft on Monday evening.
Our resident attention-seeking narcissist writes:
Anything that will draw attention to yourself.
You just did. In your narcissistic world, calling someone a mobster is the highest form of flattery
As usual – totally wrong. Russia has 155,000 people who consider themselves Jewish. It has 320,000 who consider themselves Jewish and/or partly Jewish. The later number includes the former number.
Which ranks Russia as #8, slightly above Australia.
I will let David Mamet’s quote from Glengary Glen Ross explain ranking
That is why I suggested the empire of Russia, a land of minorities, you can hate every one of them.
GOOD JOB!!
Scene: Office of the US Ambassador to the UN. The ambassador Linda Thomas-Greenfield is on the phone with AIPAC chair Betsy Berns Korn…
Thomas-Greenfield: “Ma’am the Russians are calling for brief pauses in your righteous and morally correct cleansing of refugee camps to deliver humanitarian aid. What are your orders?”
Korn: “Wait one” (puts Thomas-Greenfield on hold and dials number)
ADL CEO Jonathan Greenblatt: “Go for Greenblatt”
Korn: “Jonny, the Ruskies are making moves at the UN. They said the ” H” word. Greenfield is looking for orders. What do ya think boobala?”
Greenblatt: ” The H word? Humanitarian??? Those bastards! Quash it, of course; why would she even need to think about it? What the hell are we paying these people for?” (Clicks off)
Korn: “Greenfield? Yeah, quash it. Why are you even bothering me with this? What are we paying you people for??”
Thomas-Greenfield: “Yes ma’am. Right away ma’am. Sorry to have bothered you, ma’am.”
Korn (clicking off): “Putz”
End scene
Note: the 16 year old terrorist was (thankfully) killed in self-defense, but our resident attention-seeking narcissist (and the UN) classifies him as a “child” for propaganda purposes.
Psssst….Greggie….you asked what I considered a child to be in regards to the Palestinian Holocaust. I said “Between 12 and swaddled infant”. I also asked you to provide a source for your inference all Palestinian children are mowing Israeli’s down…you still have not done that.
16 isn’t 12. The UN is joined by every international human rights org on the planet in condemning Israel’s slaughter of ” children”. Enjoy that morning bracer, lad.
Lmao
Note: the 16 year old terrorist was (thankfully) killed in self-defense, but our resident attention-seeking narcissist (and the UN) classifies him as a “child” for propaganda purposes.
Psssst….Greggie….you asked what I considered a child to be in regards to the Palestinian H0locaust. I said “Between 12 and swaddled infant”. I also asked you to provide a source for your inference all Palestinian children are mowing Israeli’s down…you still have not done that.
16 isn’t 12. The UN is joined by every international human rights org on the planet in condemning Israel’s slaughter of ” children”. Enjoy that morning bracer, lad.
Lmao
“Note: the 16 year old terrorist was (thankfully) killed in self-defense, but our resident attention-seeking narcissist (and the UN) classifies him as a “child” for propaganda purposes.”
Psssst….Greggie….you asked what I considered a child to be in regards to the Palestinian Holocaust. I said “Between 12 and swaddled infant”. I also asked you to provide a source for your inference all Palestinian children are mowing Israeli’s down…you still have not done that.
16 isn’t 12. The UN is joined by every international human rights org on the planet (and me) in condemning Israel’s murder of ” children”. Enjoy that morning bracer, lad.
Lmao
I said 12. 16 isn’t 12. The UN is joined by every international human rights org on the planet (and me) in condemning Israel’s murder of ”children”. Enjoy that morning bracer, lad.
Lmao
“Note: the 16 year old terrorist was (thankfully) killed in self-defense, but our resident attention-seeking narcissist (and the UN) classifies him as a “child” for propaganda purposes.”
Psssst….Greggie….you asked what I considered a child to be in regards to the Palestinian Holocaust. I said “Between 12 and swaddled infant”. I also asked you to provide a source for your inference all Palestinian children are mowing Israeli’s down…you managed 1.
40% of than casualties in refugee camps are children, according to Amnesty Int’l, Human Rights Watch, the UN, and me.
Look Greggie…I get it ” fuck em all”…OK. It’s the popular position among busted old boomer neocons…no need to sugar coat it.
Enjoy that vodka and OJ breakfast.
Our resident narcissist writes:
I asked no such thing.
In response to the following quote that you cited:
I wrote:
Nowhere in that short question did I mention you or solicit your personal opinion.
Only a mind consumed by narcissism would place itself at the center of that question. Just to be clear, I am not now nor ever will be interested in your opinions since you have yet to show the intelligence, maturity or honesty to warrant such an interest.
If you care to respond to the question of what constitutes the definition of a child, please consult a source other than your imagination. Try the International definition of a child as codified by Unicef in the Convention on the Rights of the Child
“In response to the following quote that you cited:”
“I wrote:”
“Uh-huh, and just what constitutes a “child”?”
“Nowhere in that short question did I mention you or solicit your personal opinion.”
Wait…During an exchange between you and I, you responded to my quote with a question….but the question was not directed at me? Were you asking the voices in your head?
Greg, are you high, bro? Seriously.
“Article 1
For the purposes of the present Convention, a child means every human being below the age of eighteen years”
Well there you go, friend. So 40% of the 11,000 (and counting) human beings that have been slaughtered by Israelis in Gaza and 44 (so far) in the West bank are children under the age of 18.
And according to you and the rest of the SiTD neocons, they all deserved it.
Here’s some good news for all you bloodthirsty boomers from this morning’s NYT:
“The Palestinian Red Crescent said on Sunday that Al-Quds Hospital in Gaza City was “no longer operational,” as power outages and shortages of fuel continued to wreak havoc on Gaza’s health facilities amid raging battles between Israeli troops and Hamas fighters.
Israel’s ground invasion of the territory has moved deeper into Gaza City in the last few days, slowly closing in on the hospitals that have provided refuge for tens of thousands of civilians”
“The Red Crescent had said on Saturday that Israeli tanks and military vehicles had surrounded Al-Quds Hospital, the second-largest in Gaza City, and were shelling the building.”
Wether there are Hamas fighters hiding in there or not, shelling civilians in a hospital is a war crime, Patriots™️; so is bombing refugee camps. Can’t wait to watch IDF officers tell the international court they were “just following orders”.
Yes, I responded to a quote that you posted. You do know what a quote is? Hint, when you enclose words in between this symbol ->”, it means the voice is not yours, it belongs to someone else.
Are you really that illiterate as not to know this?
You did not provide the source of the quote, yet the substance of the text referenced information provided by the UN. Therefore, in that context, the definition of a child belongs to the UN, not you.
Rather than provide an internationally recognized definition of a child as established by law, treaty and convention by Unicef, your addled narcissistic imagination pulled its own definition out of thin air, which bizarrely was:
Again, no one gives a rat’s ass what you think on the matter.
The correct definition of a child, in law, treaty and convention is:
Greg:
Gaza
Median age
total: 18 years (2020)
male: 17.7 years
female: 18.4 years