Shot in the Dark

Revelation

I have these two jokes – which in a sense aren’t jokes at all.

First – when it comes to progressivism, yesterday’s joke is today’s proposal and tomorrow’s policy.

And the second: Babylon Bee is becoming less and less distinguishable with “real news”.

And now, the former “fact-check” site Snopes is trying to deplatform Babylon Bee because…well, apparently they think satire confuses people?

And it occurs to me – it’s all clear, and the dots all connect, now: Snopes is trying to deplatform Babylon Bee because they’re actually the real news, 2-3 years ahead of time.

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12 responses to “Revelation”

  1. Emery Avatar
    Emery

    No Way To Prevent This Says Only Nation Where This Happens Regularly Happens
    https://www.theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-r-1836949580

    I thought the open carry laws in Texas and Ohio were supposed to prevent things like this from happening.

  2. Mitch Berg Avatar
    Mitch Berg

    Nice threadjack, Emery.

    “I thought the open carry laws in Texas and Ohio were supposed to prevent things like this from happening.”

    Nothing is foolproof – but the various carry laws would largely seem to have worked, given the prevalence of these sorts of crimes in gun free zones.

    And let’s not forget the actual white supremacist who went to the Kroger’s in Louisville to murder blacks, and got stopped by two good guys – one white, one black and protecting his family – with guns.

  3. Emery Avatar
    Emery

    Only way to stop a bad guy with an assault weapon is a good guy with an assault weapon.

    Which tells me that we really don’t want assault weapons.

  4. Joe Doakes Avatar
    Joe Doakes

    Go ahead, Emery. Since you’re not capable of addressing Mitch’s point, address your own point. Tell us how to stop people from committing crimes with guns.

    And then tell us your views on kitchen knives:

    http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/uk_judge_calls_for_ban_on_pointed_knives_to_reduce_stabbing_deaths

  5. jdm Avatar
    jdm

    Oh man, JD, pointed kitchen knives? Next thing you it’ll be pointed sticks and then we’re only one more step from Monty Python’s sketch about how to defend yourself against fruit.

  6. Emery Avatar
    Emery

    Every country has mentally ill. Every country has video games. Every country has people who don’t pray. Every country has racists. Only America has near — daily mass shootings. It’s the guns

  7. Joe Doakes Avatar
    Joe Doakes

    There was a mass shooting in Chicago this weekend. Didn’t make CNN. Emery didn’t mention it.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-lawndale-douglas-park-7-shot-20190804-h7zp42rhefgmxky4qvox3yurzi-story.html

    Oh, right. Black people shooting other Black people in a Black neighborhood isn’t a problem for Liberals. Liberals are racist NIMBYs.

  8. Ian Avatar
    Ian

    Every country has mentally ill. Every country has video games. Every country has people who don’t pray. Every country has racists. Only America has near — daily mass shootings. It’s the guns

    Care to show numbers that support that argument, Emery?

    In the U.S., our citizens’ rights, such as those of medical privacy (HIPAA) must be weighed against public interest. But what health-care professional wants to run afoul of HIPAA on anything less than a certainty that a person is a danger to himself or herself and others? It’s a tragic but necessary fact that the scales are biased toward the individual’s rights.

    Restricting the rights of citizens provides no guarantee of safety: In 2015, Germanwings flight 9525 crashed into the side of a mountain, later learned to be a deliberate act by the first officer, Andreas Lubitz. The captain left him alone in the locked cockpit, which had a hardened door as a result of changes from 9/11, so the captain couldn’t get in to stop Lubitz. Lubitz didn’t use a gun, he used an Airbus A320. He killed 150 people. The murders might have been preventable, had his employer or the authorities known he was seeing numerous doctors for depression. But the German culture values privacy, probably even more than we do.

    The Germanwings crash resulted in the rule that airline pilots are never alone in the locked cockpit while the plane is in flight. The aviation industry addressed the issue by fixing a “people problem” with a “people solution”– a potential bad actor is stopped by a good actor. Sound familiar?

    So, in the wake of these shootings, we have three prominent solutions:
    – Further restrict the rights of tens of millions of citizens, based on the actions of a fraction of a percent, with no indication the measure will do anything to prevent tragedy?
    – Invade the privacy of millions of Americans to determine whether they are a threat to themselves or others, based on the actions of a fraction of a percent, with no indication the measure will do anything to prevent tragedy?
    – Allow citizens to protect themselves, to put into jeopardy the likely goal or many of these potential bad actors: infamy. Instead, if they encounter resistance, they will end up where they belong: Forgotten, in statistical noise, instead of their victims.

  9. Loren Avatar
    Loren

    Garlic festival, bad guy with a semi-auto rifle was stopped by good guys with pistols.

  10. bikebubba Avatar
    bikebubba

    Regarding “it’s the guns”, keep in mind that in China, they’ve had a lot of knife attacks that have killed dozens. Elsewhere, you get mass killings with bombs, knives, IEDs, poison gas, cars and trucks, planes, drugs, and a lot more. Even within the realm of gun-related crimes, long guns as a whole are a tiny minority of the problem.

    But yes, let’s concentrate on that tiny minority of crimes and do what the Obama administration did–not only refuse to federally prosecute firearm violations, especially in big Democrat-run cities, but also pressure those big cities to fail to aggressively prosecute crime. It’s not like 3000 more people per year are dying needlessly because of that….

    Except for the ugly fact that they are.

  11. Swiftee Pinochet Avatar
    Swiftee Pinochet

    Loren, turns out the garlic dude killed himself, with his own shitty Chinese rifle. But it’s likely he did so as soon as he saw he had some competition, so point made.

  12. Mitch Berg Avatar
    Mitch Berg

    “turns out the garlic dude killed himself”

    The Secret Service study of spree killers showed that that was the norm; when any resistance occurred to derail their fantasy, they either gave up or checked out (even if the good guy with a gun didn’t score a hit).

    I’ve covered several of these – look up Klackamas Mall shooting in 2012.

    Some libs try to say that this phenomenon discredits the “Good guy with a gun” scenario. It actually confirms it. Ending the shooting, not notching up a kill for a “good guy”, is the point.

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