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Incurious

Joe Doakes from Como Park emails:

Remember when the US sent a check to Switzerland to be cashed into a pallet of bills and flown to Iran, where hostages were held at the airport until the money arrived? 

 Remember when President Obama said that was not ransom, that the United States didn’t pay ransom?

 Now they’re saying it was a refund due for a never-completed arms deal from the 1970’s.  And of course we tied the payment to the release of hostages.  It wouldn’t have been prudent to just give them money and hope they released the hostages, since we weren’t paying ransom.

 And it wasn’t money laundering either, and wasn’t done to subvert the law against providing assistance to Iran.  The fact that it was done in secret, converted from fiat money to US cash to Foreign cash, in foreign banks without extradition or information sharing, was not relevant to their good intentions.

 Pathetic.  Who makes up these lies?

 Joe Doakes

Someone who can count on the American people being badly educated, incurious, too hooked on reality TV (including a reality TV election) to pay much attention, and a media that will never, ever question him?

Just off the top of my head, I mean?

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8 responses to “Incurious”

  1. Emery Incognito Avatar
    Emery Incognito

    Reagan admitted that arms had been shipped to Iran but denied that the arms were a trade for hostages.

  2. Chuck Avatar
    Chuck

    Andrew Jackson rounded up the Indians and sent them on a death march, so no Democrat better not complain if a future Republican president tries to exterminate American-Indians.

  3. The Big Stink Avatar
    The Big Stink

    Incurious is the most dangerous attribute. A lack of inquisition about the assault on our liberties ought to cause everyone to go to the gun range for a little “maintenance.” Seems Americans are more concerned about the new releases on Netflix than the state of their liberties.

    In ancient times, this would call for the king to impose a new tax and lop off a few heads – just to underscore the king’s wisdom.

    But that was before Netflix.

  4. kel Avatar
    kel

    TBS

    while I’m not a big fan of John Lennon, every once in a while he accurately captured a sensibility as in this bit from “Working Class Hero”

    “A working class hero is something to be,
    Keep you doped with religion and sex and TV,
    And you think you’re so clever and you’re classless and free,
    But you’re still fucking peasants as far as I can see,
    A working class hero is something to be,”

  5. kel Avatar
    kel

    of course much of his Ono period stuff is more revealing of his own narcissism more than anything else but then again he was Labour/a Liberal.

  6. swiftee Avatar
    swiftee

    Emery spewed: Reagan admitted…

    Oh, well that makes it alright then.

    Did Reagan guarantee Iran the right to build nukes in 10 years, and give them $18 billion to do it with? Did the Iranians thank Reagan by capturing a US Navy vessel and publicly humiliating US sailors? Did the Iranians fire ballistic missiles to teach Reagan who is boss?

    …you pathetic mook.

  7. Joe Doakes Avatar
    Joe Doakes

    No, Emery, the Moral Equivalence card won’t play with me – I was around and awake back then, I remember the “Iran-Contra” silliness.

    Iranians overthrew the Shah and took Americans hostage at our embassy, keeping them during Jimmy Carter’s term. Those hostages were released the day Reagan took office long before any “ransom” was paid.

    Lebanon had American hostages and Reagan hoped that by selling arms to dissidents in Iran, the dissidents would overthrow the Mullahs and that would bring pressure Lebanon to release American hostages; plus Iranian money would help the Contras throw off Communists in Central America – a three-for-one victory.

    Moving chess pieces around an international board is not the same as flying pallets of cash to the hostage-takers who are waiting at the airport for the money to arrive. Obama had no long-term strategy to benefit American interests, this was a straight-up quid pro quo.

  8. bikebubba Avatar
    bikebubba

    Actually, Emery, that’s false. There is no paper trail between Reagan and the conspirators for Iran-Contra at all. Plus, even if such a link were to be proven (good luck with that one since most of those involved are deceased), you’ve got the reality that the hostages in Lebanon were in fact being killed, and that they were caught in the crossfire really through no fault of their own.

    None of which applies for this case. We’ve known the Iranians are like this for close to 40 years, and they’re, whatever their other faults, not killing foreigners routinely. Try to come up to speed on categorical differences, would ya?

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