Garbage In, Garbage Out

Two bits of news from talk radio that tie into a larger industry-wide trend.

Brain Maloney notes that Citadel Radio – one of the chains of broadcasters that has led the way in trying to jam left-leaning programming down the listeners throats, and largely failing (judging by their stock, which has gone from a solid hold to a penny stock in the past two years), is running the pointless Joe Scarborough and the execrable Mika Brezinski on their flagship station WABC in New York.

Maloney:

In fact, the decision to insert MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski into WABC’s midmorning slot is exactly how Citadel – ABC Radio got into this mess in the first place.Since the ill-fated merger of [Citadel and the old ABC Radio], Citadel’s upper management has struggled to grasp news-talk and what drives listenership. Instead of learning more about this highly-successful medium’s audience characteristics, CEO Farid Suleman has compelled stations to comply with a series of increasingly-bizarre programming edicts, of which this is merely the latest.

It’s nothing new, of course.  Since the aftermath of the 2004 elections, a lot of high-power consultants – the ones whom Rush Limbaugh caught by surprise – have been saying “conservative talk is dead”, and doing their best to prove it by killing off the stations they program.

This is manifested in ways small (the ongoing morphing of KSTP-AM into WCCO) and, in WABC’s case, big:

[Suleman’s] latest fiasco debuted yesterday, made possible by the recent removal of longtime WABC honcho Phil Boyce. One longtime major market radio programmer who monitored the broadcast told your Radio Equalizer that it “sounds like a train wreck on the air. Maybe this is the making of a new horror movie: When CEOs Program.” He further called it “just MSNBC on the radio.”

Without a skilled programming coach to guide Joe and Mika, both rank amateurs when it comes to talk radio, the program lacked focus. It skipped around haphazardly between topics and guests, which included MSNBC insiders such as David Gregory and Tom Brokaw.

Perhaps Suleman knows something we don’t.

Perhaps Harry Reid tipped him off that the Fairness Doctrine will not only be re-enacted immediately after inauguration, but enforced brutally, and it’s best to get ahead of the curve by filling your lineup with innocuous center-left talking heads who won’t offend the new regime and its mass of informants (who will be the engine driving the Doctrine).

In a related matter: while KSTP-AM has been floating aimlessly down this road for years, since the departure of Rush Limbaugh and Jason Lewis, programming innocuous hamsters like Willie and Jay, innocuous drive-time sportstalk with Matt Thomas, and mostly-apolitical social-curmudgeon with a thin veneer of “crusty reactionary” Joe Soucheray, who has been doing the same show to the same audience for (counts in his head) around fifteen years.

Now, “TBD” is replacing Mischke in the noon-2pm slot.  Yesterday, TBD was Jim Souhan, sports reporter at the Strib.  It was a bit of deja vu, going back to the days when KSTP seemed to think that any newspaper reporter could run a talk show; Nick Coleman, Catherine Lanpher, Jim Klobuchar and scads of other Strib and PiPress reporters and sportswriters paraded through the studio (including, to be fair, James Lileks).

Deja vu, also, in that it was just plain awful – like most newspaper (and TV) people are when they try talk radio.  It wandered aimlessly.  It skimmed past stories without giving anyone (in the forty-five or so minutes I wasted) a reason to pay it any attention.

It sounded, I thought, like pre-1987 talk radio.

I’m just gonna let that hang there for a while.

7 thoughts on “Garbage In, Garbage Out

  1. Souhan does pretty well when he has someone to play off of, but I’m not surprised to hear that his fill-in didn’t go that well. One little quibble:

    “Joe Soucheray, who has been doing the same show to the same audience for (counts in his head) around fifteen years.”

    How is that not true of, well, Mischke, or Limbaugh, or Prager, or Hewitt (apart from the # of years)? They all, even Mischke, do the same basic show every day; that’s why people tune in. I know the “End of the World” and other such bits grate on a lot of political talk fans (me included, depending on mood), but those really aren’t a larger part of the show than they were ten years ago when I started listening. They add and subtract bits just like any other show as far as I can tell. Just curious what impression is behind that statement.

  2. I used to think Willie was a poor choice to do the morning show on AM 1500… until KTLK brought in Chris Baker and Langdon Perry. Willie’s looking like an acceptable show to jump to while I wait for Dennis Miller or Bob Davis.

    A friend of mine suggested that, if Mischke didn’t mind playing more music during his show, perhaps the morning slot at The Current might work nicely for both him and the station.

    I don’t mind listening to Dave Thompson in the evenings on KSTP, but as much as I like him, he’s a poor man’s Jason Lewis… and I’m not listening to radio in the evenings as much anymore.

  3. Steve-

    Are you really comparing the level of effort that Soucheray and say Prager put in to a show? The problem with Soucheray is that the observations he was making ten years ago were actually somewhat interesting, but he’s still making the same ones today. Prager’s format may sound the same as it did years ago, but he’s constantly developing and deepening his approach. To put in it GL terms, Soucheray built a foundation years ago and he’s been puttering around the edges of it ever since without building on it.

  4. I agree with you Chad, when Rush isn’t on I will listen to Prager. Listening to Souch is as painful as reading PIGenma’s turd droppings.

  5. No, I’m not trying to compare the shows, because I don’t think they’re comparable. One is hard news, interviews, occasional deep thoughts, and the Happiness Hour. The other is, well, Garage Logic: fluff with the occasional political discussion.

    It bugs me when someone says “he/she has been doing the same [show/album/book] for years” as a criticism. There needs to be an “and I just don’t like it” following, because that always seems like the problem, not that the show hasn’t changed. Has APHC changed much in the last decade or so? Mitch still likes that, I thought…

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