Shot in the Dark

Gurgitation On Cue

SCENE: Mitch BERG is looking for a new heat gun at a hardware store when Kirk THUNT, used car salesman and chairman of The Arne Carlson Project, an anti-Trump organization based in Forest Lake, walks around the corner.

THUNT: Merg.

BERG: Er…hi ,Kirk…

THUNT: You routinely refuse to condemn Donald Trump for trying to overthrow the government and erase the Constitution on January 6, when he was complicit in sending mobs looking for the Vice President, and the Electoral Commission, and members of Congress, to try to kill them.

BERG: I condemn, and condemned, the riot, the “storming” of the Capitol, and anyone who thought they could overtake the Constitutional process by force. All the talk about killing the Vice President is just baked wind; the Secret Service would have leveled anyone who tried. The electoral commission was alarmed – justifiably – but they finished their job. Democracy was never in danger, and everyone involved is in a world of legal hurt. The federal criminal justice system is doing what it does.

THUNT: The January 6 Commission just learned that Chief of Staff Meadows has text messages proving Trump was involved.

BERG: Maybe they do.

THUNT: Maybe? So you support the attempt to overthrow the government and erase the Constitution on January 6, when Trump was complicit in sending mobs looking for the Vice President, and the Electoral Commission, and members of Congress, to try to kill them.

BERG: The commission is an investigation – of sorts. Findings are not a conclusion. I’m not going to pretend I know enough to draw a conclusion, even if my conclusion matters to anyone. Let the investigation run its course.

THUNT: Huh. Let it run its course? So you’re right there behind the attempt to overthrow the government and erase the Constitution on January 6, when Trump was complicit in sending mobs looking for the Vice President, and the Electoral Commission, and members of Congress, to try to kill them.

BERG: Again, no. I am saying I believe the left has glommed onto it as a way of deflecting, eternally, away from their many very deliberate attempts to undercut out democracy, and the riots that they supported from 2015 to 2021.

THUNT: Deflection? So – you are a big fan of the attempt to overthrow the government and erase the Constitution on January 6, when Trump was complicit in sending mobs looking for the Vice President, and the Electoral Commission, and members of Congress, to try to kill them.

BERG: I’m pretty sure I said exactly the opposite, several times. My “crime” with you seems to be the fact that I haven’t wet myself with outrage over Trump, with regard to this episode or any other during his administration. I was a Trump non-fan back when you were watching The Apprentice. I’m intellectually honest about the things he did right and wrong, but if you’re looking for…

…on cue from me, you’ve got the wrong guy .

THUNT: So you dismiss concerns about the attempt to overthrow the government and erase the Constitution on January 6, when Trump was complicit in sending mobs looking for the Vice President, and the Electoral Commission, and members of Congress, to try to kill them.

BERG: For the fourth time in 90 seconds – no. I do think Big Left uses January 6 the same way a certain European socialist leader used this episode. But we’ve got a whole new set of problems to deal with, as a nation and, frankly, as a Republican.

THUNT: So you don’t think the GOP is forever rendered toxic by its association with Trump, meaning you support the attempt to overthrow the government and erase the Constitution on January 6, when he was complicit in sending mobs looking for the Vice President, and the Electoral Commission, and members of Congress, to try to kill them.

BERG: Er, Kirk? I’ve just explained that every single point you make is bulls**t. And yet every time you take a breath, you tell me I support the…what is it you say?

THUNT: You are a hypocritical supporter of the attempt to overthrow the government and erase the Constitution on January 6, when Trump was complicit in sending mobs looking for the Vice President, and the Electoral Commission, and members of Congress, to try to kill them.

BERG: And again, I am not.

THUNT: Denial means you are an enabler of the attempt to overthrow the government and erase the Constitution on January 6, when Trump was complicit in sending mobs looking for the Vice President, and the Electoral Commission, and members of Congress, to try to kill them.

BERG: That’s false.

THUNT: Disagreement means you are a supporter the attempt to overthrow the government and erase the Constitution on January 6, when Trump was complicit in sending mobs looking for the Vice President, and the Electoral Commission, and members of Congress, to try to kill them.

BERG: Once you got on the green, you only had to use your putter twice, right?

THUNT: Nonsensical responses mean you support the attempt to overthrow the government and erase the Constitution on January 6, when Trump was complicit in sending mobs looking for the Vice President, and the Electoral Commission, and members of Congress, to try to kill them.

BERG: Look. The heat gun I’m looking for.

THUNT: Using heat guns means you support the attempt to overthrow the government and erase the Constitution on January 6, when Trump was complicit in sending mobs looking for the Vice President, and the Electoral Commission, and members of Congress, to try to kill them.

(But BERG has already left the room)

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53 responses to “Gurgitation On Cue”

  1. gl whisler Avatar
    gl whisler

    Silly Thunt.

  2. Mammuthus Primigenesis Avatar
    Mammuthus Primigenesis

    The Arne Carlson Project wouldn’t be at home in F Lake. That is MAGA country.
    Scandia would better for ACP HQ. Maybe. Better yet, Marine on Saint Croix.

  3. Emery Incognito Avatar
    Emery Incognito

    Trump’s lies about election fraud were the principal cause of the capitol riot. The texts from Fox News hosts show that everyone knew it that very day. Seems like a lot of prominent Republicans thought Trump had the power to stop the insurrection, huh?

    That’s sort of an interesting position for a bunch of people who maintain Trump did nothing wrong and had no control over the rioters.

  4. Paddyboy Avatar
    Paddyboy

    The best you have is a made up conversation to try to prove your point? Sorry, fiction doesn’t equal fact, by definition.

    Conversely, you and your crowd claimed Derek Chauvin was totally innocent, funny that he plead guilty to violating George Floyd’s rights today in federal court, including kneeling on his neck even after he was unresponsive and being fully aware IT WAS WRONG.

    Next you’ll make up a conversation between Chauvin and Floyd.

    Chauvin: “I’ve got 180 pounds on your neck, how’dya like them apples.”

    Floyd: “Gurgle, gasp”

    TBerg: “Break his neck officer Chauvin, he’s still movin!”

    Jeezus, talk about tone deaf made up nonsense.

  5. Paddyboy Avatar
    Paddyboy

    Spot On Emery, spot on.

  6. Mitch Berg Avatar
    Mitch Berg

    Trump’s lies about election fraud were the principal cause of the capitol riot.

    Yeah, great,but this post isn’t about Trump.

    It’s about Republicans responses to the systemic gaslighting we get about it.

    So no, Emery – spot off.

  7. bosshoss429 Avatar
    bosshoss429

    Keep your head up your ass, E.

    There is plenty of evidence emerging that January 6 was a leftist false flag. The fact that the kangaroo court is hiding over 5000 hours of surveillance videos, trying to prevent Steve Bannon from introducing what he found in discovery and the deplorable behavior against the political prisoners, you know, violating their human and constitutional rights, including the murders of two of them by capitol police, the Feds and the DC leftists, should tell a rational, clear thinking person all they need to know. I will add that despite all of the lies the left continues to spew about the incident, NO ONE has been charged with insurrection.

  8. Paddyboy Avatar
    Paddyboy

    By the way Mitch, all sophistic crap, trying to justify your support of sedition aside, your silence about Trump that day and immediately afterward said everything everyone of us needed to know. You want to win at all costs, no morals matter, killing liberals is something you may not advocate but you don’t really raise your voice to push back (gutless much?), democracy should fall if you don’t get what you want, lie about fraud, disenfranchise voters too, you don’t care, just win baby, because you’re right and the rest of us are so very wrong. That’s why you make this crap up because the truth is far too ugly for you to face. You lost all credibility with me on 1/6 and 1/7, you don’t stand for what this country stands for any longer, you certainly don’t stand up for the Constitution. tRump tried to prevent the lawful certification of his replacement, a man who won fairly, and he stood silently by while his frothing-at-the-mouth followers stormed the Capitol Do you doubt they’d have killed Pelosi had they found her? That’s killing the third person in line for the Presidency, just to be clear, a federal crime of seeking to violently overthrow the government (as well as murder). You couldn’t be brave enough to condemn it then and you’ve only become more gutless since, much like Mark Meadows. You are ok with them trying to steal the Presidency and are ok with them making it possible to do so more directly in the future by turning over election verification to hyperpartisan locals. Good work, Mitch, throw yourself a party, you’re destroying our democracy, but hey, at least you can make up dialogue to try to reason away open conspiracy to commit sedition.

  9. Emery Incognito Avatar
    Emery Incognito

    👆Huh? Batshittery has fully infected this one.

  10. Paddyboy Avatar
    Paddyboy

    Sorry Mitch, spot on Emery. You (Mitch) choosing to bitch about gaslighting is sort of like the arsonist who complains it’s hot. It’s not gaslighting to say you supported Trump’s actions, nor is it gaslighting to say you’ve only gotten worse since.

  11. Paddyboy Avatar
    Paddyboy

    Boss, the fact no one has been charged (YET) doesn’t mean that wasn’t the intent. It clearly was.

  12. Emery Incognito Avatar
    Emery Incognito

    MBerg: Among elected Republicans, the conservative media and the donors, and *most* bloggers — not a single one of them believes the election was stolen from Trump. Not one.

    The demo of voters who for instance would attend a Trump rally is more debatable, but hell, some people still believe the earth is flat.

  13. Paddyboy Avatar
    Paddyboy

    Boss, just to be clear, you and your crowd are anti-democratic thugs. Those are facts. You make up nonsense about fraud, even though you lose 60 times out of 61 in the courts, thereby deeply damaging faith in our elections, and you implement unnecessary laws prohibiting early voting and providing WATER to people waiting in lines for hours, not to mention that you make them wait for hours by passing laws in states you control saying we should have similar numbers of polling places in counties with populations of 40k as we do in places with 400k (Ohio) – that’s the anti-democratic part, and you show up brandishing rifles outside elected officials’ homes as some sort of mechanism to intimidate, and nothing more (that’s the thug part). Tell me you don’t applaud when they do either and both.. seriously.

  14. Paddyboy Avatar
    Paddyboy

    Sorry, I meant Georgia…

    https://www.npr.org/2020/10/17/924527679/why-do-nonwhite-georgia-voters-have-to-wait-in-line-for-hours-too-few-polling-pl

  15. kinlaw Avatar
    kinlaw

    Lol, pudding boy. Guess you consider this low hanging fruit, cuz you’re not smart enough to (try) to challenge one of Mitch’s post more than 3 times a year.

    I would address your laughably risible points, but instead: let me give you a clue, free of charge. No one cares about this bs made up story. So you and your lefty friends keep on shouting “insurrection” from the rooftops. Its working, no really it is. Keep it up, and keep calling parents terrorists, and keep blaming every one on earth for jello brains failures, and keep calling patriotic Americans “white supremacists.” It’s working! No really!

    (that’s why the real threats to democracy, the dhimmicraps, are trying to pass a national election fraud law. 2022 is gonna be a bloodbath otherwise.)
    (actually, if it does pass, there also will be a bloodbath)

  16. Mammuthus Primigenesis Avatar
    Mammuthus Primigenesis

    I see that Emery is wearing his “Captain Hysteria” cape again.
    Do not forget that this is the same guy who was on and is still on the “Trump colluded with Putin to steal the 2016 election from Hillary” crazy train.

  17. Joe Doakes Avatar
    Joe Doakes

    “The courthouse isn’t open. I guess we lose.”

    “What? Did you try the door?”

    “Yes, of course. It won’t open so we can’t present any evidence. I guess we lose.”

    “Nonsense. Try it again.”

    “Okay, it still won’t open. That’s twice we’ve lost. I guess it must have been a free and fair election after all.”

    To Liberals, this makes perfect sense.

  18. Mammuthus Primigenesis Avatar
    Mammuthus Primigenesis

    You can run the best campaign, you can even become the nominee, and you can have the election stolen from you.”
    -Hillary Clinton

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2019/05/06/hillary-clinton-warns-2020-democratic-candidates-stolen-election/1116477001/

  19. Joe Doakes Avatar
    Joe Doakes

    “Look, Derek, you’ve been convicted of a felony. You’re never going to be a cop again. You’re going to prison. Why fight these new charges?”

    “Because I’m not guilty. I was railroaded and everybody knows it.”

    “Yeah, but it’s going to cost millions to fight the federal government. Who’s going to pay my fee? That’s what I thought. Tell you what, plead guilty, we’ll get the sentences to run concurrently, you’ll serve your time in federal prison instead of state prison, and I’ll cut my bill. It’s the best deal you’re going to get. Otherwise, you need to find yourself a new lawyer to work for free.”

    “But I’m still being railroaded.”

    “Nobody cares. Take it or leave it.”

    “Okay, fine, I’ll take it. Can I pick my prison? How about someplace warm?”

  20. jdm Avatar
    jdm

    Oh, my goodness, the E-troll and P-boy tag team. 2022 is gonna be lit.

  21. Mammuthus Primigenesis Avatar
    Mammuthus Primigenesis

    “[Trump] lost the election and was put into office because the Russians interfered on his behalf. Trump didn’t actually win the election in 2016.”
    -Jimmy Carter

    https://www.npr.org/2019/06/28/737008785/jimmy-carter-says-he-sees-trump-as-an-illegitimate-president

  22. Emery Incognito Avatar
    Emery Incognito

    We must battle the scourge of voter fraud…right? What about a “full forensic audit?”

    3 Residents of The Villages in Florida Are Accused of Voting Fraud
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/15/us/the-villages-voter-fraud-florida.html

    I think we should cash in with the Texas Lt Gov Patrick’s voter fraud bounty, we can split the $75,000. Deal?

  23. Mammuthus Primigenesis Avatar
    Mammuthus Primigenesis

    How you think about the 2020 election is almost as important to Emery as how you think about the covid vaccination.
    The ol’ “My opinions are facts” shtick is tiresome.

  24. Mammuthus Primigenesis Avatar
    Mammuthus Primigenesis

    Here’s the thing the thing: Zuckerberg and his cronies spent over $400,000,000 — yep, that’s four hundred million dollars — driving out the vote in Democrat heavy precincts in swing states.
    If I want to say that I believe that means Zuckerberg worked with Democrat officials to steal the election from Trump, I can do that.
    This is America, I can say what I like, I can believe what I like.
    But not on twitter or facebook.
    I listen to a lot of political podcasts, and the amount of boiler plate and talking around the issue that conservative pundits have to do when they talk about “irregularities” in the 2020 election is appalling in a free country.

  25. Emery Incognito Avatar
    Emery Incognito

    The call is coming from inside the house.…

  26. Mitch Berg Avatar
    Mitch Berg

    The best you have is a made up conversation to try to prove your point

    Paddy, I know you. In real life, you’re a smart person.

    Don’t tell me that after all these years of yapping about this, you haven’t learned what satire is?i

    you and your crowd claimed Derek Chauvin was totally innocent

    Where?

    Got a link? Anywhere?

    Show me where I said any such thing.

    You’re making it up.

  27. Mitch Berg Avatar
    Mitch Berg

    support of sedition

    Good Lord, Paddy.

    Again, I know you not to be completely thick as a brick in real life.

    And yet you’ve just inserted yourself into the satire, here.

    But don’t let this diversion stop you from your mission.. Show me where I said I thought Chauvin was innocent..

    All my posts relating to the Chauvin trial – there are 31 of them – are tagged.

    You can view them all at this link.

    Kindly show the audience where I said I thought he was innocent.

    We’ll wait.

  28. bikebubba Avatar
    bikebubba

    Huh, pretty interesting that Paddyboy & Emery are more or less repeating the dialogue that Mitch reports.

    Regarding those horribly overloaded polling places in Georgia, especially those serving minority voters, it’s worth noting that polling places are set up not by the state, but rather by the counties. The state is just supposed to police the abuses. The three worst counties for voting in Georgia are, of course, strongly Democratic.

    I also appreciate how Paddywhacker claims that things like voter ID are not necessary. The basic way it seems to work is that a conservative group will find a large number of people who voted who appear to be felons or dead, elections officials will then dutifully ignore that data, and Democrats will then declare that there is no evidence of vote fraud.

  29. Mammuthus Primigenesis Avatar
    Mammuthus Primigenesis

    There are lots of ways to “fix” elections. A minor change in voter ID requirements or the period of time a mail in vote will be accepted can change the outcomes of elections. Both D and R lawyers assert this, anyhow.
    The way that you make sure the process of voting is approved by the people is that you make certain that the process is designed by the people’s representatives.
    Democrats hate this. They want the rules that cover elections to be decided by judges and political appointees.
    Democrats are like that. They want you to vote on things like what color your recycle bins will be or what date will be chosen to honor black veterans, but vote on who gets to vote?
    Nope.
    Howzabout who gets into the country?
    Nope.
    Howzabout what your tax dollars are spent on?
    Nope.

  30. golfdoc50 Avatar
    golfdoc50

    Mitch could publish photos of demonstrators illegally entering spaces in government buildings trying to disrupt and prevent the Kavanaugh nomination from occurring, or perhaps the illegal occupation of the Capitol building inMadison because leftists were angry over something. But that would be “whataboutism “

  31. Pureblood Pete Avatar
    Pureblood Pete

    “25 years, or life. And remember; you’ll be judged by 80IQ, woke Minneapolis chuds. Life, Chauvan. There is no parole from fed prison. Take it or leave it.”

    Chauvan did nothing wrong. Soros et. al. hasn’t wasted a penny.

  32. bosshoss429 Avatar
    bosshoss429

    Well, Paddywhacker, since you and the ilk you support are fine with your party’s brown shirts damaging private and government property, intimidating judges and jurors in court cases and showing up at representative’s houses in the middle of the night, accosting elected officials in their own yards, on the street or in restaurants, shooting them on a softball field, setting off a bomb in the senate building (1983), censoring and vilifying the opposition, releasing criminals back into society to commit more crimes, you have no ground to stand on. I could go on with illustrations of left wing communist hypocrisy, but it would be lost on a kool aid drinking, true believer like you.
    You obviously haven’t been paying attention to the investigation into the fraud that your ilk perpetrated on the American people. Funny! Your own side has been claiming fraud every time they have lost, going back to at least 1990. Further, having voting starting in September, is a recipe for the fraud that people on your own side have called out, starting with Carter. Finally, take a look at the voting rules in the state of Delaware, the state of the brain dead pedophile that you idiots on the left elected. But, those aren’t Jim Crow type laws are they. Keep your head up your ass, too, hypocrite!

  33. Pureblood Pete Avatar
    Pureblood Pete

    Negro boy shoots 4 kids in school; $75k bail and he’s chillin with his hoes before dinner.

    White boy shoots a pedophile, a woman beater and an armed felon in self defense. Spends 180 days in jail; $2 million bail.

    You can say John Snow justice is payback for Jim Crow justice. But you can’t say it is fair and impartial.

    Blue hair is today’s white hood.

  34. Pureblood Pete Avatar
    Pureblood Pete

    Merg is out shopping for a personalized “Vite Harder” voting marker. He doesn’t see Peevee sneaking up behind him…

    Peevee: Merg!!! You poasted another thing that I hate!

    Merg: “oh, hi friend irl.”

    Peevee: (5 minute, insane rant that leaves Peevee soaked in spittle and panting)

    Merg: “Hey now pal, you’re a real smart dood out here irl. This isn’t my blog, you can drop the moron schtick.”

    Peevee: *deep breath* (10 minutes of white hot, insane hate, leaving Peevee gasping for air and bleeding from both ears)

    Merg: “Haha! Well, you’re still the smartest lib I know buddy!”

  35. bosshoss429 Avatar
    bosshoss429

    One more thing, Paddywhacker.
    Once again, Adam “Shitty” Schiff is caught doctoring evidence. That whole sham committee and the rest of the corrupt cabal of DemoCommies, is guilty of instigating and orchestrating January 6. Look up an FBI operative named Ray Epps.

  36. Emery Incognito Avatar
    Emery Incognito

    Trump lost the presidential election by millions of votes — both times. He lost the electoral college in a landslide. He lost the Senate. He attempted a failed coup. It is not clear why the GOP would want to continue to support a losing cause rather than trying to create a party that the majority of Americans want to support. The GOP is doomed until they refocus away from Trump on the center, where most Americans are.

  37. jdm Avatar
    jdm

    It is not clear why the GOP would want to continue to support a losing cause rather than trying to create a party that the majority of Americans want to support

    Funny when enemies of the right give advice as to how to win.

  38. Emery Incognito Avatar
    Emery Incognito

    Trump’s coup failed because State GOP functionaries refused to go along with it. They are being replaced with Trump loyalists right now.

    The part here you need to pay close attention to for this, and future elections, is the power of state legislators to appoint new electors. There are a ton of people on record now openly advocating for overturning elections for wholly meritless reasons.

  39. Mitch Berg Avatar
    Mitch Berg

    Paddy,

    Still waiting.

    Where did I say Chauvin was innocent.

    More tomorrow or Monday.

  40. Mitch Berg Avatar
    Mitch Berg

    There are a ton of people on record now openly advocating for overturning elections for wholly meritless reasons

    And there’s no reason to believe they’ll fare any better than Powell and Giuliani.

  41. Emery Incognito Avatar
    Emery Incognito

    👆Just a reminder that the GOP members of Congress who advised or encouraged Trump, Meadows and others to reject electoral votes were themselves elected in the same election on the same ballots under the same state and federal election laws.

    I’ve long wondered why every journalist’s and local *blogger’s* first follow-up to these GOP members hasn’t been “What about the part of the same [mail-in] [drop box] [day-of] ballot with *your* name on it?”

  42. Joe Doakes Avatar
    Joe Doakes

    A stole the election through fraudulent vote counting.

    B demands the stolen election be set aside.

    B is attempting a coup to overturn the fait accompli of A’s coup.

    B is a bad man.

  43. jdm Avatar
    jdm

    Say, JD, if A misstates and/or pretends to not understand the arguments made by B (in spite of being corrected numerous times), is B still a bad man?

  44. bosshoss429 Avatar
    bosshoss429

    Geez, Emery. Speaking of an attempted coup, what were you lefties doing from the time Trump starting his campaign? In fact, they continue to push their fraud and he hasn’t been in office for almost a year. But, again, keep up the hypocrisy and self righteousness, pin head.

  45. Mammuthus Primigenesis Avatar
    Mammuthus Primigenesis

    ” It is not clear why the GOP would want to continue to support a losing cause rather than trying to create a party that the majority of Americans want to support.”

    That is because you have misstated the issue, Emery.

    There were conservatives who couldn’t understand why the Democrats voted for Obama in 2016 when he had lost the house and senate and countless local offices. You were probably one of them.

  46. jimf Avatar
    jimf

    Emery-have any evidence there was an actual coup attempt? Good luck

  47. Mammuthus Primigenesis Avatar
    Mammuthus Primigenesis

    Number1: Congress is a political body. It cannot conduct criminal investigations.
    Number 2: There are a lot of people, Trump allies (like Meadows) who began by cooperating with Pelosi’s committee, then stopped when they realized that it was a kangaroo court.

  48. Emery Incognito Avatar
    Emery Incognito

    There was a PowerPoint for the coup.

    Meadows turned over to Jan. 6 committee an email that referred to a PowerPoint calling for Trump to declare a National Security emergency and have Pence delay Biden’s certification.

    “Declare electronic voting in all states invalid, declare National Security Emergency.”

    What’s that called again when someone inside the government uses the military to take over the government? A coup by any other name.

    The current leader of one of America’s two parties tried to overthrow the last presidential election. This fact is still astonishing to me.

  49. Ian Avatar
    Ian

    Emery writes:

    Meadows turned over to Jan. 6 committee an email that referred to a PowerPoint calling for Trump to declare a National Security emergency and have Pence delay Biden’s certification.

    From that bastion of conservative thought, the Huffington Post:

    It was not clear who created the PowerPoint plan or how it came to be emailed to Meadows. Meadows’ lawyer said the former chief of staff did not act on the plan or otherwise do anything about the email, according to The New York Times.

    So we don’t know where the nefarious PowerPoint came from, then? Not exactly a smoking gun.

    The current leader of one of America’s two parties tried to overthrow the last presidential election. This fact is still astonishing to me.

    Except it’s not a fact. It’s an unproven accusation, Emery. jimf’s question still stands.

  50. Mitch Berg Avatar
    Mitch Berg

    The current leader of one of America’s two parties tried to overthrow the last presidential election

    For purposes of argument, let’s accept that.

    “Some Republicans tried a bad thing” <> “All Republicans support that bad thing”.

    You’ve have to be morally retarded to believe otherwise.

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