California proposes a “no buy list” for guns, for people who fear they might commit suicide:
Assembly Bill 1927 would allow at-risk individuals to put themselves on a voluntary no-buy list, which would prevent them from purchasing guns from a licensed dealer. The bill was approved by the Assembly on Wednesday and is now in the state Senate.
Often, people at risk of suicide are well aware of their vulnerability, especially if they have chronic mental illness. Research shows that suicide is almost always an impulsive act during acute distress. A no-buy list, which recently passed in Washington state, allows suicidal crises to pass without a gun nearby. Once the crisis passes, individuals can take themselves off the list.
How to respond?
- While suicide may be an impulse, I’m going to guess buying a gun on impulse to check out is rarer than Erin Maye Quade going to a NASCAR race. People who commit suicide by firearm tend to have owned them for years, decades, without incident.
- Any bets on how long it’ll stay “voluntary” if it’s passed? I say two years, outside.
” . . . almost always an impulsive act during acute distress . . ..” I question the basis for these sweeping statements.
An impulse is short-term. An impulse can cause you to grab a candy bar while standing in the checkout line at the store. An impulse cannot cause you to apply for a permit to purchase, wait until it arrives, purchase a firearm and ammunition, write a suicide note and only then, to take your own life. That’s not an impulse. That’s a deliberate, intentional plan.
Since the basis for the law is a lie, the law cannot solve the problem it’s supposed to solve. The law must be secretly intended to solve some other problem: lack of revenue, excess toxic masculinity, reduce the number of conservative voters, prepare the way for Empress Chelsea to seize power . . . .
Isn’t California one of those states that has a waiting period for purchase? Doesn’t that already counteract any “impulse” buy?
Meanwhile, if you put yourself on the list in Cali, but change your mind, you can jump into your Leaf and drive up to Oregon, and they’ll assist your suicide.
See, progs don’t really care if you snuff yourself; they just want to have control over how you do it.
I bet it’s not going to be that easy to take your name off of the list once you’ve put it on there.
Will there be similar lists for scarves, ropes, knives, pills, gas ovens, homes with high balconies….
My guess is the potential suicide no buy list will have about the same impact as a murder no buy list……….basically zero impact. Q: How the hell would they be able to measure the success of such a law? A: They won’t!
Because the 2nd Amendment defines a civil right available only to citizens this list should automatically be populated with the names of all the foreign nationals (legal and documented or NOT) who reside in California. This could be done at the DMV when they’re getting their drivers licenses.
This thing seems wrong-headed. If you fear that you will use a gun to kill yourself in the future, you are already not of sound mind. You need a mental health intervention.
Maybe the “Oregon solution” mentioned by Swiftee needs to be further explored. If you can put yourself on a “no-buy” list to prevent suicide, why can’t you put yourself on a list that will invalidate your future choice to kill yourself with state-assisted suicide?
Seems to me that everybody in CA and who can’t escape to elsewhere should REASONABLY be suicidal and not mentally ill. How does the law handle that Catch-22?