“Shut Up, All You Ignorant, Uncivil Tribalists!”, He Explained

To:  Minnesota Public Radio
From: Mitch Berg, “tribal” peasant
Re:  Norm Orenstein


Last Friday you played an interview with Norman Orenstein on your noon show.   Orenstein is to academia what Lori Sturdevant is to journalism; a myopic scold for a very defined ideology, who after a career of being hailed as a genius by his own echo chamber can not possibly conceive of there being a rational alternative.

Orenstein’s major points:

  • The national conversation is getting very uncivil – due to the right.  Not the left.
  • While he used to support the electoral college, now he does not.
  • The conservative alternative media – Orenstein calls it “tribal” media, in the tone of a British grandée in colonial India – is at fault for everything.

Thanks, MPR.  We don’t get enough of that from the local media.

By the way, MPR?  Why did you book Orenstein?  Self-affirmation therapy for your distraught audience?

That is all.

37 thoughts on ““Shut Up, All You Ignorant, Uncivil Tribalists!”, He Explained

  1. Rush Limbaugh once read a mega-stupid article by him on the show. Orenstein has no idea how the real world works.

  2. The latte sipping, leftist reprobates at MPR are actually engaged in some self-help right now. They are just as triggered as their bandana mask wearing, pepper spray stained SJW’s, and why not? Would a scary smart, reality based elitist be less clueless by any other name?

    During the course of the next decade, we can expect some serious martyrdom and passive aggressive hate from our public broadcasting vehicles and their affiliated chanting towers. If you thought white, working class America took a beating from the Light Worker, you haven’t seen anything yet.

  3. Holy shit.

    I just went to check on Mitch’s pal Bobblehead Bob Collins’ little echo chamber and Oh, my God…there is some serious suffering going on over there. In the past week and a half, his injured flock has been treated to a torrent of moonbat angst:

    In a poor city in Wisconsin, voting doesn’t much matter
    Why bother making the bed? What time is Ellen on?

    The time a president was murdered and only one person filmed it
    Apropos of nothing…no, really.

    Which Democratic senators are favorites to fight Trump?
    If I had a haaaaammer!

    The fine line between covering racism and spreading its voice
    There’s a white, straight male inside the wire, Lieutenant!!!

    Americans are warming to a president they’re about to lose
    Forgive them Father, they know not what they do…

    It’s a writhing mass of tear stained, deep suffering at MPR, friends.

  4. That is hilarious, kel. “No delicious gravy for YOU!” LMAO!

    An instant classic. So good, in fact, I have to wonder if that’s not someone yanking our leg.

  5. SP,

    Gloriously hilarious.

    And the “is “Scott” a sock puppet” question occurred to me.

  6. Funnier is one of the deluded moonbats in the comments section, jeff4649 using the Hitler meme continuously.

  7. Hoss, that ‘bat is not reading his daily talking points memo. Hitler is out, David Duke is in.

    In fact, Duke hasn’t had this much press in 30 years. He couldn’t buy this kind of press. You just know Louis Farrakhan is calling in every marker he has in the DNC to get Hakim X elected chair.

  8. NPR instructs it’s “journalists” that alt.right should be referred to as “white nationalist”:

    The AP says this: “The so-called alt-right – a movement often associated with far-right efforts to preserve ‘white identity,’ oppose multiculturalism and defend ‘Western values.’ ”

    Sarah McCammon has put it this way: “The alt-right movement, which has been associated with white nationalism.”

    “White nationalist” is the most concise description.

  9. There is an irony that in the supposed “fight against fascism”, NPR is engaging in tactics that can almost charitably be described as “The Big Lie.”

  10. I think the reprobate Democrat plan to double down on bashing 70% of the country is pure genius. I approve of their tactics and encourage them to burn effigies of the subjects in American Gothic.

  11. Well, if for 8 years we heard every day that Ronald Reagan was going to get us into a nuclear war, then I suppose we can hear everyday that there are 57 communists in the state department. Wait, I mean 57 KKKer in the Trump administration.

    Anti-defimation League estimates there are 3,000 members of the KKK in the US. I’ve never met one. Seen one. Seen one on-line. Heard of anyone who has ever met one. Yet suddenly there is one behind every tree. And people thought the John Birchers were paranoid.

  12. nerd, if you have any doubts as to whether MPR Newscut is a cult, just try and leave a comment. It’s just like the teh Peevee’s penisblog, except we’re subsidizing it.

    I am sure it’s a cult, the trouble I have is I keep putting an “n” after the “u”.

  13. Chuck on November 22, 2016 at 1:01 pm said:
    . . .
    Anti-defimation League estimates there are 3,000 members of the KKK in the US.
    . . .

    There are about 15,000 FBI special agents.

  14. There were supposed to be 20,000 KKK members by now, Jethrene. But Canada stopped sending reinforcements when the promised flood of college educated, scary smart, reprobate leftists failed to flow North.

    I think we were supposed to get, like, 500 just for Bruce Springsteen, so it’s kind of a bummer.

  15. ,i>I thought the plan was to refer to any group of three rednecks with expired license tabs as a “militia”.

    That was before they struck up the idea that everyone with even one drop of Caucasian blood was militia, or KKK, or both.

  16. “I thought the plan was to refer to any group of three rednecks with expired license tabs as a “militia”.”

    I’ve got 3 vehicles with expired tags, does that make me a militia?

  17. Depends, Kel. Do you have an “arsenal?” Mine consists of the infamous “thousands of rounds of ammunition.” Okay, true, it’s a couple of bricks of .22s and my Grandpa’s bolt-action rifle, but hey, I still qualified.

  18. Or, how many couches do you have on your front porch and how many old appliances are in your yard?

  19. So this is how the smear works.
    Associate alt.right with white nationalism (aka ‘Nazis”).
    Associate whoever the media does not like with alt.right.
    The Times is after Bannon’s head. I hope they don’t get it.
    A few days ago, on another forum, a commenter said bias at the NY Times isn’t a big deal because it is bleeding subscribers and advertisers. The problem is that the NY Times sets the agenda for news and political media across the country — online, on the air, and in print. If the NY Times says Bannon is a nazi, he will not be able to talk to the main stream press without being asked if he is a nazi, what does he think about being called a nazi, etc.
    Guilt by association is an old Lefty trick.

  20. Politico Editor RESIGNS After Publishing Home Addresses Of Alt-Right Icon Richard Spencer, Advocating For ‘Baseball Bats’
    I’ve seen this advocacy of political terrorism where I live. In my town, there was a guy who used to park his truck in downtown Hilo with a giant, 4×8 foot placard saying vile things about Obama — “first Muslim president”, Obama is a traitor, etc.
    For a while, there was at least one letter to the editor each week describing the words and images as ‘violent.’ They do this because, of course, violence calls for violence. The Politico editor straight out suggested using baseball on people he disagrees with, but who have committed no violent acts, as far as I know. The editor didn’t even accuse Spencer & his pals of committing violence. Hirsh was advocating violent attacks on people who had never done him, or anyone else, harm.
    And more bias from Politico in this story:
    “The Labor Department regulation, previously set to take effect Dec. 1, effectively restored overtime pay to the middle class after decades of erosion had reduced it to a benefit available only to low-wage workers.”
    This is opinion writing. What the Hell is the writer even talking about? How can you possibly justify writing ” . . . after decades of erosion had reduced it to a benefit available only to low-wage workers.”? Is erosion the same thing as inflation? Overtime rules are set both by the feds and the states. What has changed to “erode” overtime regs?

  21. Trump spoke with NY Times people yesterday. Their are a lot snippets going around about the conversation, of the “OMG Trump is a nazi!” variety. Here is the full context of Trump’s remarks regarding the alt.right:

    BAQUET: So, I’d love to hear you talk about how you’re going to manage that group of people who actually may not be the larger group but who have an expectation for you and are angry about the country and its — along racial lines. My first question is, do you feel like you said things that energized them in particular, and how are you going to manage that?

    TRUMP: I don’t think so, Dean. First of all, I don’t want to energize the group. I’m not looking to energize them. I don’t want to energize the group, and I disavow the group. They, again, I don’t know if it’s reporting or whatever. I don’t know where they were four years ago, and where they were for Romney and McCain and all of the other people that ran, so I just don’t know, I had nothing to compare it to.

    But it’s not a group I want to energize, and if they are energized I want to look into it and find out why.

    What we do want to do is we want to bring the country together, because the country is very, very divided, and that’s one thing I did see, big league. It’s very, very divided, and I’m going to work very hard to bring the country together.

    I mean, I’m somebody that really has gotten along with people over the years. It was interesting, my wife, I went to a big event about two years ago. Just after I started thinking about politics.

    And we’re walking in and some people were cheering and some people were booing, and she said, you know, ‘People have never booed for you.’

    I’ve never had a person boo me, and all of a sudden people are booing me. She said, that’s never happened before. And, it’s politics. You know, all of a sudden they think I’m going to be running for office, and I’m a Republican, let’s say. So it’s something that I had never experienced before and I said, ‘Those people are booing,’ and she said, ‘Yup.’ They’d never booed before. But now they boo. You know, it was a group and another group was going the opposite.

    No, I want to bring the country together. It’s very important to me. We’re in a very divided country. In many ways divided

  22. NW: “Possibly, Kel. How many teeth do you have?”

    well I got 12 whole teeth and 7 or 8 partials but I just chew tobacco and that makes the pain manageable, plus it keeps me astonishingly regular.
    The couch caught fire this summer so I’m looking for a new one, maybe not vinyl this time.
    The real measure of a man’s life is cylinders, not counting the dead vehicles I gots 23 cylinders (cars, trucks, atv, chainsaws, generators, lawn mowers, etc) whatcewgot?

  23. No, I want to bring the country together. It’s very important to me.

    Trump wants everyone to cheer him, but it’s never going to happen. That is a lesson I believe will be slow in coming to him, but eventually he will get it, and he will come to the right conclusion.

    I can get pretty nasty when I want to, but I’m unique in that among conservatives. No one can get as nasty, really despicable, as a reprobate leftist. One of their favorite tactics is to drag family members into the fray; demeaning wives is a specialty. Trump probably loves Melania, but more importantly, parading with a smoking hot woman half his age carries the same message obesity used to have for wealthy and powerful men in the 18th century.

    Demeaning Melania demeans Trump’s success and Trump is a man who holds a grudge like a miser holds a greenback. After a few months of reading the hocker fest the left is conducting on social media, Trump’s criticism of the alt-right will be it’s too meek.

  24. JD: Kel – is that cylinder index urban, or rural?

    well you got me there, being as I’m gravel road then long driveway rural, I’m the poor kid in the section since some of my neighbors have cylinder counts in the 50s and one has 73 that I know of.

  25. Kel, I stopped counting once I hit 50 cylinders. It gets too depressing once you realize how much maintenance that entails when you try to do most of it yourself.

  26. Kel, You got me thinking about my cylinder index. I live rural, I’m in the 50+ cylinder count with multiple Harleys (3), 4 wheel drive trucks (3), car, garden tractor/mower, snow blowers, weed whips, chain saws, etc. I service them all myself, probably why my hands are always grease stained. I’m wondering if that makes me a country bumpkin, or maybe I’m a redneck?

  27. I’m wondering if that makes me a country bumpkin, or maybe I’m a redneck?

    well if you use the key to your own truck to dig the wax out of your ears you’re a gentleman redneck, if you borrow the keys to your buddy’s truck you’re just a redneck.

    like I said, at 23 cylinders I’m the poor kid in the section

  28. BG: Trump might be a new political species: a centrist-populist. If so, we’ll have to observe how this plays out.

  29. bike, 8 for a small block is fine unless your neighbor teases that his 8 are of a large block….wink….gotta hate those kind of folks.

  30. I hate those kind of folks. Well, at least when I’m not at the gas station. :^)

    One would think I was a hippie from the number of bicycles at my home, an even baker’s dozen.

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