While legalizing firearm suppressors has gotten most of the attention this legislative session, I think the most vital part of the Public Safety Omnibus bill is Rep. Newberger’s “Katrina Bill”, which would bar the state government from confiscating citizens’ firearms during a state of emergency.
How important is this? As we speak, in Maryland, the government is clamping down on the availability of ammunition…
…which is another way of making civilian firearms useless. Of course, during Hurricane Katrina, the local police went door-to-door, confiscating firearms. Current Minnesota law allows the state governnment even more-onerous leeway than Maryland law.
And a quick note to the “Minnesota” gun groups that advocate focusing only on “Constitutional Carry”; even if that were to pass, it wouldn’t affect state emergency powers.
This bill needs to pass.
Want to quell a “state of emergency?” Close the liquor stores.
Good reason to have your own “arsenal” of at least a box or two of each needed caliber.
“Good reason to have your own “arsenal” of at least a box or two of each needed caliber.”
Rural garage sales and estate sales are a great place to stock up – cash sales, no receipts.
In an emergency gold might have some value, but lead may be of greater value. Keep a good supply of lead on hand.
Want to quell a “state of emergency?” Close the liquor stores.
No, that’s only a marginal improvement. To really quell it just announce that no “benefits”, e.g. SSDI, SNAP, unemployment, etc., will be paid during the rioting.
After all, it wasn’t the welfare office they were burning in Ferguson or Baltimore.
1000 round cases of .223 for $.24 a round on Cheaper Than Dirt.
50 rounds of .45Auto for $18 bucks too.
That’s enough to keep a guy in justice for a week.
Jus sayin.
MBerg: Are you in fact claiming that Maryland is “confiscating citizens’ firearms”?
Emery,
No, but as written it wasn’t that clear.
“Keep a good supply of lead on hand”
Lead/projectile is the easy part.
propellant is next (sure you can meth-lab it but QC is a real issue)
reusable brass shells are harder to come by and difficult to manufacture without specialized equipment
and most difficult are primers without specialized equipment almost impossible to make Reliably
so lead may be handy but primers and brass would be the family treasure
without ammunition the best gun is just a steel pipe.
MBerg: ‘Never let a good fundraising opportunity go to waste’
Well, Emery, we know that the lefties never do!
Yes, both sides have their own fair share of foolery.
I’m unclear on the point of your comments, Emery. You are correct that Baltimore didn’t stop ammo sales, WalMart did that voluntarily. So that nit has been picked, good job.
Was that the entire thrust of your thread? Any thoughts as to the broader point the legislation is intended to address?
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Editorial control falls under the purview of MBerg.
To your point: Yes and thank you for asking. It’s not that complicated. Most gun supporters live in places where there is little or no gun violence. Those who favor gun control live in places where there is gun violence nearby. The arguments about protecting one’s home from criminals are fairly silly; most of those who own guns have a very low chance of encountering violent crime at home. Those who do face violent crime in their neighborhoods overwhelmingly favor gun control.
Emery:
Rubbish!
If I’m to believe you the reason Kenwood, Linden Hills, Highland Park and Summit Ave overwhelmingly support gun control is due to the violent crime in their neighborhoods?
Cite your sources.
A majority of Americans reflexively resist greater power for the government, and any diminishment of their personal freedoms. They aspire to Libertarianism, even as they appreciate the comforts of Soci@lism. The tension in that dichotomy is a big part of what makes Americans who they are. Gun control will remain a totemic issue, because it is highly visible, and because for most Americans, a lack of stronger gun control has very little impact on their safety and security. Americans oppose gun control because to do so is easy and cheap, and allows them to stay true to ideals which on many other issues they find themselves compromising.
Emery:
Rubbish!
Cite please.
It’s my opinion and I don’t believe it’s very far off the mark. Most Americans don’t face a significant threat from crime. Shooting guns is fun. Hunting is culturally important in many places. Owning a gun is at least a gesture of independence from the government, which is an ideal that many Americans treasure.
Translation: Emery’s got nothing.
…Other then his hatred for Liberty and his love of soci@lism.
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Ah, Emery does have a point. Those who live close to crime often do favor gun control. They also vote for Democrats, have multiple children by different fathers, allow drug dealers to roam their streets with impunity, show their displeasure with government action by trashing their own neighborhoods,……
Some of us might call them “stupid” in general, really. It really comes down to a simple question of whether “red” areas are safer because we have clung to our guns and religion, or whether we cling to our guns and religion because we are safer.
OK, let’s test the hypotheses with data; crime has plunged as gun ownership has skyrocketed. We might infer that the first hypothesis is correct; that we “bigger clingers” are safer in part because we retain the capability of dealing with violent thugs ourselves.
And, as our friend Swiftee might say, obviously those who vote for gun controllers are stupid in many ways.