Shot in the Dark

The First Of Many Wavings Of The Bloody Shirt

I don’t disagree with any of the particulars of the National Review’s editorial about January 6:

There is no defense for what the mob did that day. None. The people have a right to form loud, angry crowds to petition and protest their government. They need not do so in ways that are pleasant or polite. The “Stop the Steal” protesters who listened to the speeches and went home were exercising their rights as citizens.

But ours is a government of laws, not of men. A rule-of-law system has no place for physical intimidation or mobs obstructing the peaceful, constitutional transfer of power. The Founding Fathers feared few things more than mob rule. They created a federal district to avoid a repeat of a 1783 riot around the Continental Congress in Philadelphia.

Donald Trump, his lieutenants (especially Sidney Powell and the tragically-fallen Rudy Giuliani), and Trump’s personality cult, did something that doesn’t, and can’t, play well with small-“d” democracy: it put the person ahead of the process:

There is also no defense of what Donald Trump did to summon the crowd, tell it that there remained any option but counting Biden’s electoral victory, and urge the assemblage to march on the Capitol because “if we allow this group of people to illegally take over our country . . . you’re not going to have a country anymore.” Trump’s recklessness disgraced the office of the presidency.

Additionally, there is no defense of Trump’s pressuring Pence to take unilateral, unlawful action against the counting of electoral votes, then telling the crowd that Pence might do so, knowing full well that they would discover when they reached the Capitol that Pence would not. Some of them, entering the Capitol, chanted, “Hang Mike Pence.” It was Trump who led them to believe that his own vice president was allowing their country to be stolen.

Let’s be honest about what that explosion of personality cult over process actually did:

What happened at the Capitol that day is best understood as a riot that was particularly dangerous because of its setting and context. It was not a purely peaceful protest, or a cartoonish costume party with a little bit of trespassing. The Secret Service had to rush Pence to safety. Members of Congress emptied the chamber and fled for cover. The vote-counting process was interrupted for five and a half hours. The Capitol itself was wreathed in smoke. This is the stuff of a banana republic.

When the subject of banana republics pop up, Democrats perk their ears up, being wannabe Generalissimos in their own ways. Republicans, even Trump supporters, are correct in pointing out that Democrats were trashing the democratic process since before Donald Trump was a reality TV star, much less President:

For two decades, prominent Democrats have attacked the legitimacy of American elections. They claimed that the 2000 election was stolen from Al Gore. They indulged ridiculous fantasies about Ohio being stolen in 2004, resulting in dozens of Democratic members of Congress objecting to counting its electoral votes. Many of those Democrats are now powerful committee chairs, including the chair of the committee investigating January 6. Violent protests marred Trump’s inauguration, and leading Democrats denounced him as illegitimate. Polls showed that supermajorities of Democratic voters believed that Russian hackers stole the 2016 election from Hillary Clinton, and she has given every indication that she shares that view. In 2018, Stacey Abrams was anointed a hero by her party for refusing to accept the legitimacy of her loss of a governor’s race. It would have been wrong for Trump to emulate this behavior; but he went well beyond what even the most reckless Democrat has done in contesting an election.

Left-wing mobs have targeted the workings of government, for example overwhelming the Wisconsin state capitol in 2011 to protest Scott Walker’s union-dues bill. Republican legislators had to be evacuated by police, as Democratic legislators egged on the mob. In 2018, protesters repeatedly disrupted the Brett Kavanaugh hearings, chased Republican senators down hallways and into elevators, accosted them in restaurants, and broke through Capitol barricades, resulting in hundreds of arrests. Law enforcement was unduly lax in punishing these offenses against democratic self-government.

It’s true. But it’s no excuse – any more than January 6 will be a legitimate excuse for more Democrat violence and tyranny-mongering. That is, in fact, something that Republicans of good conscience need to stomp on, hard. Because it dismisses nothing to note that January 6 was an attack on the Constitutional process different from others only in its perps:

The New York Times editorializes that “Every Day Is Jan. 6 Now,” and one of its columnists argues that Democrats should “Wave the ‘Bloody Shirt’ of Jan. 6” as Republicans did against Democrats after the Civil War — as if this compares to a four-year war in which 3 million Americans served and 750,000 died. Other opportunists (including Joe Bidencall the riot the “worst attack on our democracy since the Civil War” or say it is comparable to the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001. CNN and other cable news obsessives plan wall-to-wall coverage of the anniversary in order to inflate its importance and help Democrats wave that bloody shirt.

This is a loss of perspective. In 1915, a former Harvard professor set off a bomb at the Capitol and shot J. P. Morgan. In 1954, five congressmen were shot by Puerto Rican nationalists in the House chamber. In the early 1970s, the left-wing Weather Underground set off bombs at the Capitol, the Pentagon, and the State Department. In 1983–84, the Communist group M19 bombed the Capitol, an FBI office, and Fort McNair and the Navy Yard in D.C. In 2001, 3,000 people died on 9/11, air travel was grounded across the country, the president was shuttled to a secure location, and a wing of the Pentagon was destroyed. In 2017, a gun-toting Bernie Sanders supporter attempted to massacre Republican congressmen at a baseball practice, gravely wounding Steve Scalise, the Republican House whip.

I say “Republicans of good conscience” because there are Republicans who have joined the personality cult, and many who’ve prospered, politically and financially, greatly from it.

And some Republicans have reacted by washing their hands of the GOP – some for reasons I can respect (Ed Morrissey), others I can not (the Lincoln Project), many in between. Some “Never-Trumpers” yip and bark at the party like bitter ex-spouses.

Others presume the GOP’s reckoning rates a generation in the minority – as Kevin Williamson says in his otherwise worthy piece on the subject, again, I agree with in most particulars – except for its conclusion:

It is my view that none of the Republicans who voted against certifying the 2020 results should ever hold office again, and that no candidate who is unwilling to forthrightly condemn both the violence of January 6 and the lies that inspired that violence ought to enjoy the support of any conservative, any organ of the Republican Party, or, indeed, any American who calls himself a patriot. No candidate who cannot give a simple yes or no answer — and give the correct one — to the question of whether the 2020 election was stolen from Donald Trump ought to hold office. If that puts the Republican Party into the minority for a generation, then the Republican Party deserves it, having become a menace not only to the conservative principles and governance it purports to cherish but to the political structure of the nation and the Constitution itself. Those who have no use for caudillos and mobs, and who hope to see our constitutional order endure, should seriously consider separating themselves from the Republican Party unless and until it proves capable of reforming itself.

“Reforming itself”

Like, magically?

Well, no. The party “reforms itself” when those who show up decide it shall be reformed.

Our democracy – and the Constitutional process Williamson rightly extols elsewhere – won’t survive a generation of one-party government by today’s Democrat party. The Democrat party of the Watergate era, led by Ernie Hollings and Scoop Jackson and Daniel Inouye, people who believe in America whatever their political differences, didn’t see power as the means to the end. They weren’t the generation of “progressives” that gave us San Francisco, Chicago, Baltimore and Minneapolis, or for that matter California and Illinois, as they are today; those are the inevitable consequences of one-party rule, at least by this Democrat party at this time in its history.

Packed courts.

Centralized elections.

A packed Senate.

More promotion of the administrative state to circumvent the legislative and judicial processes that can’t be won in elections.

Those are the consequences of a “generation of minority status” for the opposition.

That’s not acceptable.

The GOP will have to “reform itself” by good people showing up and reforming it.

Not by sitting splendidly above it all listening to Bulwark podcasts and heckling.

Not by waiting for some third-party to spring into place.

Not by waiting for the Reform Fairy.

Not, for that matter, by waiting for someone else to reform it. With all due respect to those who stormed out in a cloud of principled righteousness in 2015, 2017 and 2020, starting next month, your opinions are duly noted, and will no longer be of any relevance.

No. It happens by reforming the GOP.

More on that next week.

Comments

84 responses to “The First Of Many Wavings Of The Bloody Shirt”

  1. Emery Incognito Avatar
    Emery Incognito

    Hard to believe that Congressmen who were crawling on the floor with gas masks during the terrorist attack are now pretending it never occurred. Video footage and eyewitness accounts are difficult to deny.

    I particularly remember the video of the secret service rushing Pence to the underground bunkers so he wouldn’t get murdered by Trump inspired supporters.

    They were attempting to stop the certification process, you know, the peaceful transfer of power? If they had enough votes to throw out states that voted for Biden, the loser would still be President. Since they didn’t have the votes they tried to stop the process, with violence. They were told they have to fight for their country — when in reality they were fighting for a lie.

  2. jdm Avatar
    jdm

    I look forward to mentions about the reporting of Julie Kelly and Darren Beattie and the set-up that was J6.

  3. Emery Incognito Avatar
    Emery Incognito

    Mental health services are so brutally underfunded…

  4. Mitch Berg Avatar
    Mitch Berg

    “Mental health services are so brutally underfunded”

    And yet the stigma isn’t what it used to be. We’ve got a President with dementia, a Veep and Senator Warren with serious delusional disorders, and a Speaker and Senate Majority Leader with personality disorders.

    So there’s progress!

  5. kinlaw Avatar
    kinlaw

    Ed Morrissey? Kevin Williamson? National Review?

    Jeebus, why don’t we just go straight to msnbc? At least they are transparent in their desire for there to be no more Republican party.

    Hey troll, if there’s another iNNSereksHunn, you gonna pick up a rifle and defend democracy? Oh yeah, no weapons there that day.

    Mitch, let me help you out here: the Republican party does not need to do whatever the never trumpers say it needs to do, especially nr, it is fine and better off without rinos.

    You are letting the background wash of the lamestream mediots poison you.

  6. Emery Incognito Avatar
    Emery Incognito

    @Mberg
    Every Republican and Democrat in the US could do with some introspection (use that ire to challenge YOUR side of the aisle).

    Democrats, answer this: why the Democratic Party managed to drift so far that a good amount of US voters now see them as the incarnation of the self-serving political elite?

    Republicans, answer this: why an outsider was able is such a short time to hijack the party and use it as a launching pad for his own benefit? What does it say about the party?

    Now fix it.

  7. Emery Incognito Avatar
    Emery Incognito

    In the immediate aftermath of the Capitol insurrection, just about everybody, including most GOP congressmen, recognized that Trump incited it. They said as much, publicly. They were right then. They do not tell the truth now.

    The truth is no longer politically expedient so it has become a liability. This is pretty much par for the course.

  8. Mammuthus Primigenesis Avatar
    Mammuthus Primigenesis

    The guy who still believes that Trump colluded with the Russians to steal the 2016 election from Hillary (whom he predicted would win by a landslide) wants to lecture us about “the truth.”

  9. Mitch Berg Avatar
    Mitch Berg

    Republicans, answer this: why an outsider was able is such a short time to hijack

    Asked and answered, long ago.

    There was a libertarian-populist energy 12 years ago. The Tea Party channeled that energy in a productive and successful direction – orderly, inclusive demostrations thatleft the places cleaner than they found them, all full of idealism…

    …that threatened the establishments of both parties, who collaborated to put that “insurrection” down.

    That energy found another outlet, and this time didn’t bother with the table manners.

    That’s it.

  10. Joe Doakes Avatar
    Joe Doakes

    Mitch, I respectfully disagree.

    Today is the Honorable Sixth, the day when patriots everywhere raise their fingers to the usurper in Washington, in memory of the innocents slaughtered and the political prisoners still held captive for attempting to petition the government for redress of grievences.

    I have no doubt the election was stolen and the evidence hidden until after the inauguration. Every day, more evidence of electoral fraud is uncovered (see recent news stories about Georgia and Wisconsin). Eventually, the truth will be known but by then, the usurper will have dragged the nation so far into decline that it may never recover. That’s what President Trump was trying to prevent by demanding Congress delay certification until the investigations were complete. That’s what Never-Trumpers and RINOs gave us.

    Reforming the Republican party by kicking out those who believe the election was stolen will leave the McCains, Romneys, and Grahams and Murkowskis to fight for conservativism, cheered on by Jonah Goldberg and Paul Mirengoff. Good luck with that.

  11. Pig Bodine Avatar
    Pig Bodine

    The Insurrection is a media farce. there was no insurrection! In a country with over 400million firearms in private hands no one bothered to show up for The Insurrection with a gun? NR, Williamson etc are wrong and so are you Mitch!

  12. Mammuthus Primigenesis Avatar
    Mammuthus Primigenesis

    Like other #NeverTrumpers, Williamson has been driven mad by his TDS.

    No candidate who cannot give a simple yes or no answer — and give the correct one — to the question of whether the 2020 election was stolen from Donald Trump ought to hold office.

    So Williamson reveals his extremism. You must accept his conclusion, which he does not argue, or be banished from public office.
    Who is the enemy of small-d democracy now? Who is opposed to the people choosing whom they will to represent them?

  13. Mitch Berg Avatar
    Mitch Berg

    PB,

    The term insurrection is a farce, you’re right – out of the hundreds of arrests, five involved firearms, and in court dox it turns out all of them were either legally carried or brought out of worry about “Anti”-Fa protests.

    An “insurrection” would have involved a lot more gunfire.

    “so are you Mitch”

    Feel free to elaborate.

  14. Mitch Berg Avatar
    Mitch Berg

    So Williamson reveals his extremism

    I’d call it an unreasonable demand, more than extremism. I think he’s wrong about that, but there you go.

  15. Emery Incognito Avatar
    Emery Incognito

    @Mberg
    Populism has tended to have surges and then ebb away because it is reactive and does not have consistent party-political expression. 

    The fact that half the country could watch in real time as the outgoing president lied about the results of the election and encouraged his supporters to seize the Capitol through violent actions only to think that both the message and the means were legitimate suggests that the decades long project of the right wing media ecosystem is nearly complete. These merchants of fear have created a thoroughly alternate reality that conservative voters and their gullible brethren are willing to achieve by the pen or the sword. This is how democracy dies, not with a bang, but a slow and steady drum beat.

  16. Mammuthus Primigenesis Avatar
    Mammuthus Primigenesis

    I will give this warning: one way that authoritarian regimes stay in power and even thrive is to make legal distinctions between those who support the regime and those who oppose it.
    In the US, this is not supposed to happen because we have the rule of law, not men. The government is the servant of the people. It does not direct the nation, the nation directs it.
    Once you allow the government to have political interests of its own, the end of republicanism follows. You know longer have a self-ruling people, you have people ruled by the clique who control government.
    If the government says that those who promote its public policies can burn cities and kill people with impunity, those who oppose those policies can behave like good citizens, and lose, or behave as badly as the government thugs, and lose.
    If you believe that Ashley Babbitt’s killing was justified, you believe that the government should have the right to shoot to kill unarmed protesters.

  17. Mitch Berg Avatar
    Mitch Berg

    And there, MP, I agree with you.

    “You’re either with or against us” is totalitarian, whether the speaker is in power or not.

  18. Pureblood Pete Avatar
    Pureblood Pete

    All the insurrectionists got clean away, and left the unticketed capital tour group and unpermitted paraders take the wrap.

  19. Pig Bodine Avatar
    Pig Bodine

    Mitch: “Feel free to elaborate.”
    OK you previously opined “January 6 was an attack on the Constitutional process different from others only in its perps:”

    JD rebutted that nonsense as any reasonable person would: ” Eventually, the truth will be known but by then, the usurper will have dragged the nation so far into decline that it may never recover. That’s what President Trump was trying to prevent by demanding Congress delay certification until the investigations were complete.”
    I note also you do not mention the actual insurrection that took place(and failed) Jan 20 2017.
    The difference between 1.6.2021 and 1.20.2017 was that the Capitol Police did not collude with Pelosi, Schumer, et.al. to provide the national propaganda networks the optics they’d need.

  20. Mammuthus Primigenesis Avatar
    Mammuthus Primigenesis

    I don’t like derogatory references to “populism.” it is a poor way to make a point, since people are generally supposed to be happy when popular policies are enacted. I mean, what is the opposite? Elitism?
    Bernie’s (of Hillary’s) economic populism is good, but Trump’s economic populism is bad?
    You can easily end up in this weird spot where you believe that the duty of the voter is choose which elite will represent him, when, because the voter is not an elite, he has no way of judging the wisdom or utility of the elite’s policies.

  21. Emery Incognito Avatar
    Emery Incognito

    Woolly wrote: “Once you allow the government to have political interests of its own, the end of republicanism follows.”

    You can’t talk about January 6 without politicizing it. One party, and one president, was directly involved — it’s very essence was political.

  22. Pureblood Pete Avatar
    Pureblood Pete

    Fox news is blowing off a solid gold opportunity today. If they had any credibility, they’d be doing wall to wall coverage of the border invasion today.

    Instead, they’ll join Berg type “vote harder conservatives” in clucking their tongues. “Awful” “Inexcusable”

    Pffft.

    Call me when it’s time to throw reprobates out of helicopters.

  23. Pureblood Pete Avatar
    Pureblood Pete

    Oh, and btw…waiting for Trump to give a press conference denouncing the continued solitary confinement of trespassers and unruly paraders.

    “Trust the plan”

    Lmao

  24. jdm Avatar
    jdm

    Joe Doakes on January 6, 2022 at 12:03 pm

    Nicely stated, JD. Very good.

  25. Mammuthus Primigenesis Avatar
    Mammuthus Primigenesis

    Kevin D. Williamson and Jonah Goldberg, the last True Scotsmen Conservatives in America, They earned this distinction by their often expressed visceral hatred of the most conservative president since, well, ever.

  26. Emery Incognito Avatar
    Emery Incognito

    Twat wrote: “Fox news is blowing off a solid gold opportunity today.”

    This is Fox News-style insurrection denialism turned to 11. Graham must have forgotten that he called the Georgia Secretary of State to pressure him into somehow calling the state’s electoral votes for Trump. Before the Jan. 6 attack.

    “What brazen politicization of January 6 by President Biden.
    I wonder if the Taliban who now rule Afghanistan with al-Qaeda elements present, contrary to President Biden’s beliefs, are allowing this speech to be carried? ~ Lindsey Graham
    https://mobile.twitter.com/lindseygrahamsc/status/1479098783879340033

  27. Mammuthus Primigenesis Avatar
    Mammuthus Primigenesis

    Here’s something interesting about Pelosi’s January 6 committee. It is purposely political, and that is how it is supposed to be. Even if it has violated its founding directives to include 6 members chosen by the minority leader of the house.
    The reason it can be political is because it is not the judiciary. It can really only fact-find and make reports, or propose legislation based on its findings. Congress is, however, forbidden to pass a bill of attainder (which, IMHO, Pelosi would love to do).
    What should be worrisome to every American is Pelosi using her partisan committee to essentially try people criminally. THAT IS NOT THE JOB OF CONGRESS.

  28. kinlaw Avatar
    kinlaw

    My goodness the troll must have a YUGE chubby today, with this thread letting it spout all it’s lies.

    And he said inject bleach too, no really.

    And he called them fine people, swear to G*d he did.

  29. Mammuthus Primigenesis Avatar
    Mammuthus Primigenesis

    All congress could do is impeach Trump. They tried to this and failed, in large part because they made it a purely partisan, star chamber affair.
    Sore losers, aren’t they.
    Now the people who go on and on and on about an “assault on our democracy” are doing everything that they possibly can to prevent people from voting for Trump, or anyone like him in 2024. Way to go, pro-democracy activists! This is an entirely new level of corruption!

  30. kinlaw Avatar
    kinlaw

    MP, it won’t be the ballot box that kills the modern dhimmicrap party, it’s going to be the lawsuits over the political imprisonment of Jan 6 rioters and the WHOLLY unconstitutional Jan 6 committee.

    The best thing about today? No one cares, just let them go on about Pearl Harbor and 9/11. let them take this into prime time TV. Gropey joe’s approval is STILL dropping, and this ain’t helping.

    Please call all your dhimmi friends troll, tell them to call their dhimmi reps and BEG them not to stop this farce.

  31. Emery Incognito Avatar
    Emery Incognito

    ^ There is a fringe, they are trapped in lies and ceaselessly spread them, then there is a large majority of Americans who know the truth.

  32. kinlaw Avatar
    kinlaw

    “Democracy in Peril” reads the screen under some cnnlol talking heads. Keep it up morons.

    One silver lining out of all this onanism (look it up troll): Dick “Darth” Cheney is popular with the mediots at last.

  33. Mr. D Avatar
    Mr. D

    There is a fringe, they are trapped in lies and ceaselessly spread them, then there is a large majority of Americans who know the truth.

    The truth for most Americans is that Jan. 6 did nothing to change the trajectory of 2021. People are too busy living their lives to worry about the passion play going on in Washington. Trump is out of power and people are evaluating Biden and his team based on their current performance.

  34. Mitch Berg Avatar
    Mitch Berg

    people are evaluating Biden and his team based on their current performance.

    Which is precisely why the media and Demoxrats (ptr) are waving the bloody shirt.

    To draw attention away from the soiled Depends.

  35. jdm Avatar
    jdm

    To complete troll-fecta, the p-boy has to show up and accuse Mitch of being a Trump lover.

  36. Mammuthus Primigenesis Avatar
    Mammuthus Primigenesis

    The Babylon Bee suggests that you honor the memory of the January 6 Insurrection by wandering around your house taking pictures.

  37. Mammuthus Primigenesis Avatar
    Mammuthus Primigenesis

    Why it is impossible to take the January 6 Committee seriously:
    The woman organizing a vigil on the National Mall to remember “the attack on democracy that occurred on Jan. 6, 2021,” is the same Antifa-affiliated woman who planned disruptions for the inaugurations of both President George W. Bush and President Donald Trump. She also co-founded and organized the group that terrorized Sen. Josh Hawley’s wife and newborn baby last year over the Republican’s objections to the 2020 election results.
    https://thefederalist.com/2022/01/06/democrat-j6-vigil-organized-by-left-wing-activist-behind-violent-disruptions-of-trump-inauguration-assault-of-gop-senators-family/

  38. Mammuthus Primigenesis Avatar
    Mammuthus Primigenesis

    The Federalist again highlights the attempt by Democrats to make January 6 a farce:
    Mass. Gov. Blames Trump For Black Nationalist Murder Of Capitol Policeman Killed Last April
    https://thefederalist.com/2022/01/06/mass-gov-blames-trump-for-black-nationalist-murder-of-capitol-policeman-killed-last-april/

    These people have some serious brain issues.

  39. Pureblood Pete Avatar
    Pureblood Pete

    There is no “large majority” left in the US. We’ve become a country of mutts, as per plan.

    But we are clearly well into a cold Civil War. All the elements are present; hostile sides, each with their own pseudo-government. Spies and counter spies; propagandists, and grifters. It’s only a matter of time before hostilities start, and the reprobates little show today moves it that much closer.

    I haven’t turned the teevee on at all today; the leftist media isn’t convincing anyone of anything, but they don’t care because they are supposed to be igniting the hate on all sides, and I welcome it.

  40. Joe Doakes Avatar
    Joe Doakes

    It’s too bad the insurrection wasn’t real. We could have gotten a wonderful holiday from it, truly in the spirit of the founding of America.

    I’ve always admired Guy Fawkes Day.

  41. Joe Doakes Avatar
    Joe Doakes

    American insurrectionists in 1776: We will cross this river in the freezing cold on Christmas Eve to kill you in your sleep.

    American insurrections in 2020: We will take a selfie in the Senate.

    Yep, pretty much identical.

  42. Emery Incognito Avatar
    Emery Incognito

    The insurrectionists were attempting to delay the certification of Biden’s win so that Team Trump could send the election results back to the Republican-controlled state legislatures giving them the chance to decertify Biden’s win and send a slate of Trump electors to reinstall Trump as president. This is all laid out in a number of Team Trump internal memos, most famously the one by far right attorney John Eastman.

    This was Plan B. Plan A was to get the Supreme Court to send the election back to the swing states without a riot. The brief was submitted by now-disgraced Trump attorney Sidney Powell to far right Justice Samuel Alito. Plan A was preempted by the insurrection.

    The insurrection partially succeeded. The certification was delayed by hours, but Pence found the backbone to stay in the Capitol and restart the certification process that night. This is why Trump tweeted that Pence was weak and why Trump supporters wanted to hang him.

    The irony is that much of Pence’s backbone came from former VP and fellow Hoisser Dan Quayle, who was mocked while he was VP but saved the country when he was needed most.

    The work of the Jan 6 Select Committee is essential because we learn more about the attempted coup on a daily basis.

  43. jdm Avatar
    jdm

    ^ Mental health services are so brutally underfunded…

  44. Mammuthus Primigenesis Avatar
    Mammuthus Primigenesis

    I make a fearless predeiction that congressional memorials of January 6 next year will be much diminished.
    What must really burn the Democrats is that, as much as media, and academia, and Democrats dislike Trump, the public dislikes Biden more.

  45. Mammuthus Primigenesis Avatar
    Mammuthus Primigenesis

    Democrats believed that their congressional investigation into Trump and Russia was worthwhile because every day it was revealing new information about Trump colluding with Russia to steal the 2016 election from Hillary.
    Right up until Mueller released his disastrous report.
    So I am getting a little deja vu, here.

  46. Mammuthus Primigenesis Avatar
    Mammuthus Primigenesis

    I do wish that Pelosi had followed her committee’s actual directive and seated the 6 GOP reps that McCarthy nominated.
    Then we might find out more about the feds involved in inciting the riot, and in the fail of capitol security. Democrats were 100% in charge of security for the capitol on January 6, 2020.

  47. kinlaw Avatar
    kinlaw

    The troll is cutting and pasting again.

    Yeah MP, the dhimmis are gonna wake up tomorrow and expect to see gropey joes approval in the 50’s, and support for this unconstitutional, fascist committee in the 60’s.

    They are gonna have a sadz.

    Keep it up troll, it’s working. No really.

  48. jdm Avatar
    jdm

    C’mon you guys, you’re not gonna lose steam at just before 50 comments, are you?

  49. Mammuthus Primigenesis Avatar
    Mammuthus Primigenesis

    I’ve heard rumors that the reason the NG took so long to respond was that Milley, at Pelosi’s directive, made them unavailable because they thought Trump would somehow use them to stage a coup.
    It’s an interesting theory that I would like to explore further, but of course there is nothing about that problem that will ever see the light of day.
    Unless the R’s gain control of the House this November. Then we might see some fireworks. Or not. They call them “congressmen” not “courageousmen.”

  50. Mammuthus Primigenesis Avatar
    Mammuthus Primigenesis

    One mistake made by the democrats and the media (but I repeat myself) is that they think that this investigation by Pelosi’s committee is supposed to result in some legal finding, like a judicial proceeding.
    It is not. Despite all the talk about witnesses and subpoenas and deliberations, this is no more a judicial proceeding than congress naming July 17th “Disabled Postal Workers Day.”

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