Joe Doakes from Como Park emails:
What I Learned in the Peace Corps in Africa: Trump Is Right.
Joe Doakes
Maybe one of the most essential reads on sociology you will encounter this year, .
Cultural Depropriation
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Ah, but Joe, the “yeah-buts” and other concerned chin-strokers are striking back. And not just on the left (have to defend your voters), but on the right too, especially the crunchy conservative right. They’re quite concerned. And compassionate.
And all for a comment that, as far as I know, has no proof of having been said. Apart from Dick Durbin. Really?
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Trump makes a valid point but does so using eyewateringly crass language and thus the ‘outrage’. Had he said essentially the exact same thing using the soothing language of diplomacy then no one would have batted an eye. Smart countries base their immigration policies on filling skills, education, management, knowledge and other gaps in their existing workforce. And then, perhaps, on top of that these smart countries may opt to offer refuge to a few genuine and deserving refugees, with ‘refugee’ being defined by the country taking them in, and not some outdated charter.
I only question why Trump wants to encourage immigrants from European countries such as Norway? They will bring their crazy socialist ideas to USA — welfare state, universal health care, child care…
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Trump makes a valid point but does so using eyewateringly crass language and thus the ‘outrage’.
Not sure which sock puppet I am addressing, but they all seem to ne cut from the same cloth of miscomprehension. Here, little snowflake trolls, I will repost what jdm said: And all for a comment that, as far as I know, has no proof of having been said. Apart from Dick Durbin. Really? To which point your entire narrative falls apart. But then you were never about the facts and truth but the chanting points and spreading lies and misinformation. Away with you, Shvonder-eTASS and your miserable sock puppets.
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Ah, yes, Trump’s language is crass and we must disavow him, but don’t you dare point out Biden “Big F-in deal” or Dear Leader’s multiple times flipping people off in public. Or LBJ’s call with the clothing guys, or Nixon….and don’t remind us of all those reports of what Hilliary says when she’s ticked off.
No, Trump is alleged to have used a bad word, get me to the fainting couch and administer smelling salts. I think I need a drink, can’t possibly consider the reality that many of those third world nations are indeed open air cesspools or anything, even though I’ve seen one up close.
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I think to me a green ball would be wonderful, people would like green ball and I think that could be a good idea. By that I mean a green ball that is also red, because that is really what green is, it is red. That’s what it is to me, and I think that red green ball could be doable. Yes, a green ball would be good, because that still means we have red there.
This is your brain on Trump.
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This is your brain on Trump.
Thanks. I had always wondered why your comments rarely made sense. -
That, and the troll sure likes repeating himself. sTrumpet is indeed a great deal maker since he found a rent-free space in Shvonder-eTASS’ empty head.
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Em, Durbin doesn’t exactly have a stellar record on reporting things like this. So believing him rather than the other 4 folks in the room is unwise.
Secondly, I’m not disappointed in the undiplomatic language in what was supposed to be a private meeting. You said, “Had he said essentially the exact same thing using the soothing language of diplomacy then no one would have batted an eye.” Trump is hardly diplomatic, but to expect someone to attend to the niceties of diplomacy in a frank, private meeting where nobody was from the accused countries seems to be stretching things. That the comment was reported at all should bar Durbin from ever expecting another private meeting with Trump.
Further, Em, he’s right if you look at most of the countries in Africa right now, and it certainly isn’t unreasonable to expect additional scrutiny on potential immigrants from that area. Do we want someone who is trying to sooth their feelings to the point that they don’t think change warranted or desirable, or someone who has to judge whether or not their behavior merits allowing them to immigrate, and if not to communicate clearly and forcefully what needs to change? Honestly, the “diplomatic” language will continue to hide the problem, and that is itself a problem.
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Nerd, you are trying to talk sense into a troll(s) who still believes sTrumpet colluded with Russia and Mueller is an impartial counsel. Just pointing out the futility of trying to fix stupid.
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Smart countries base their immigration policies on filling skills, education, management, knowledge and other gaps in their existing workforce.
Which certainly makes US law and Democrat policy stupid by your definition. So we agree on that point.
I only question why Trump wants to encourage immigrants from European countries such as Norway? They will bring their crazy socialist ideas to USA — welfare state, universal health care, child care…
Perhaps because they might also (and primarily) have the skills and education you highlighted as beneficial to the country in the first quote? It may well be that Trump doesn’t put primary emphasis on ideological conformity as do his counterparts in “progressive” circles.
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The last guy who was prez was not crass and was actually quite well spoken. He also used the domestic intelligence agencies of the United States to spy on his political enemies and attack them. I prefer the fellow who has the job now.
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The culture MacQuillan describes is not confined to Africa. In the Pacific region, the ethnic Chinese run a lot of the businesses and often control the levers of government — not because they are wicked colonizers, but because the local indonesian/polynesian/micronesian cultures are unable to sustain the rule of law upon which commerce and prosperity depends.
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nerdbert: America is a forward looking place. That can be good, as Americans do not let the failures of the past tinge their hopes for the future. But I find that Americans (I was not born here) as a whole tend to ignore history, and are thus prone to repeat it, to their cost.
So I agree. If a wave of immigrants is supposedly bad for the US, why was it that the previous dozen waves, all met with resistance, were so demonstrably good for the country? We seem fated to repeat this cycle of immigration waves and resistance once every one or two generations.
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If a wave of immigrants is supposedly bad for the US, why was it that the previous dozen waves, all met with resistance, were so demonstrably good for the country? We seem fated to repeat this cycle of immigration waves and resistance once every one or two generations.
In previous waves, immigrants were expected to assimilate. These days, they’re expected to “resist” assimilation by a certain faction in American society (I’ll leave to to you to pin down the party responsible for that). That makes choosing those who can contribute and already conform to an ideology benefiting the country more important than it’s been in the past. Taking the “wretched refuse” of humanity from other shores might be fine if they weren’t told to remain wretched refuse once they got here.
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nerdbert, they were not just expected to assimilate, they did. I know of many families that wouldn’t teach their children the “mother tongue” because they’re Americans now and Americans speak English.
It’s amazing to hear from a foreigner how ignorant of history Americans are, and yet, you needed to explain the immigration process before it became mostly a means for Democrats to mine for votes and rich people to save a few bucks on their yard, kitchen and child care.
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One could argue that at least one wave of immigration, that after the 1848 failed socialist revolution, had a very bad effect in bringing socialism to these shores. Probably all mass migrations have had their good and bad points, really. And kudos to our current President–who seems to know a little more about this than most of Western Europe combined–for applying this principle, albeit imperfectly.
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But I find that Americans (I was not born here) as a whole tend to ignore history, and are thus prone to repeat it, to their cost.
And yet you are an unapologetic Marxist stooge who pines for soci@lism. Nobody is buying your schizophrenic hypocritical crazy here, troll.
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