“The press takes [Trump] literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally.
” — Salena Zito
When Donald Trump claimed “Trump Tower had been wiretapped”, the media – awash in images of sweaty, donut-dust-stained cops hunched over in a 1974 Ford Econoline amid amplifiers and reel to reel tape decks, concentrating on conversations through headphones. And they laughed – nobody’s done that since the ’80s! Har di har!
Roger Simon connects some dots – inconvenient ones, for the agenda-driven media:
What appears at this writing is that Trump transition team members and possibly Trump himself had their identities revealed, were “unmasked” in the parlance, while foreign diplomats were being surveilled. The identities of American citizens were not sufficiently “minimized,” as they are required to be by law. This is a crime one would assume would put the perpetrators in prison. So far it hasn’t. More than that, such behavior is a grave threat to a free society, to all of us.
In effect, Trump was wiretapped — if not in the corny, old sense of the word, something very close. Technologically, he was wiretapped, as were several (actually many) others.
A fair amount of this happened not long before Barack Obama suddenly changed the rules regarding raw intelligence, for the first time ever allowing the NSA to share its data with 16 other intelligence agencies, thus making the dissemination of said data (i. e. leaking) many times more likely. That was done on January 12, 2017, just three scant days before Trump’s inauguration. Why did the then president finally decide to make that particular change at that extremely late date, rather than on one of the previous seven years and three hundred fifty-three days of his presidency? You don’t have to be Sherlock Holmes or Watson to smell a rat. Something’s rotten somewhere — and it’s not Denmark.
The whole thing is worth a read.
I read this, Mitch.
He totally nails it.
The day of Big Brother is no longer theoretical. It’s here. They can surveil anyone 24/7. The only thing that’s stopping them is their conscience.
We’re in trouble.
A certain someone’s head about to explode and spew non-sequitur garbage into this thread in three… two… one… Or whenever he is done eating his murder of crows.
Nunes says Obama did not spy on trump. Okay, good. Trump was lying, but we already knew that.
Now Nunes appears to have leaked classified information, which reveals that members of the Trump campaign were in regular contact with people the US was monitoring for reason that aren’t yet clear.
I’m beginning to think Nunes main goal is to provoke an independent hearing to get him off the hook from having to oversee this political hot potato. Or perhaps it’s simply blind obedience coupled with extreme incompetence.
“Nunes says Obama did not spy on trump. Okay, good. Trump was lying, but we already knew that.”
Obama’s people spied on Trump.
And Obama made it easy to illegally leak the info. By issuing one of the executive orders Emery says he hates, whether the executive is D or R.
Just an update for the interested.
Ongoing FBI investigations:
Trump – 1
Clinton – 0
Who ever would have thought a presidency could be defined by tweets
O/T – Does everyone here support the ACHA bill before the Congress today?
This is a great insight, Mitch. By using the word “wiretap”, Trump doubly reinforces his support with his own base: first, because they know what he meant and it confirms what they already suspected about the lawless abuse of power by the Obama administration; and second because the more Liberals hyperventilate about the word choice, the more their actions reinforce Trump supporters’ belief that he’s serious about problems in Washington and Liberals are not so they made the right choice voting for him.
And he does it in direct-to-the-public tweets, which the hostile media can’t block, can’t filter, can’t edit, massage or spin. They can’t stop the winning.
Are we ready to admit the guy is a genius, yet?
Aah, to live in the reality-challenged world of eTASS. ( wakes up, slaps himself ) You just can’t fix stupid or teach a lib to think.
JD, you’re a legal mind, what’s you take on all this winning? If, as a result of the FBI’s investigation, it is determined that the Trump campaign engaged in criminal activities resulting in the election of Trump. Would that suggest that Trumps presidency would be the ill-gotten gains of criminal activity?
If, as a result of the FBI’s investigation, it is determined that the Trump campaign engaged in criminal activities resulting in the election of Trump.
That can’t be determined. Jeez, Even if, say real evidence was found that Trump’s people had illegally stuffed ballot boxes in four states and fraudulently won the election, he could only be impeached. The election could not be re-decided after it has been certified. If impeached, this would leave Pence as Prez, but of course his VP election would be as fraudulent as Trump’s presidential election.
Emery, give up your wish fulfillment fantasies. You not being rational.
I see the Dems are going to filibuster Gorsuch.
This will give senate Republicans the opportunity to do away with the filibuster for SC nominations in a context that favors them. The public sees nothing wrong with appointing a conservative to replace a conservative. The Dems have turned the krazee knob way past eleven, doing what the Dem base wants to do is going to drive them further from power.
The Dems have turned the krazee knob way past eleven,
As evidenced from eTASS, our resident example of lib krazy, getting screedier, krazier and more detached from reality with every post.
If, as a result of the FBI’s investigation,
And as eTASS ported his krazy non-sequitur into this thread, I wonder if he will answer my question about the motive for Russians to prefer sTrumpet presidency over sHrillary. NOT sTrumpet presidency, but sTrumpet OVER sHrillary.
My, my, my… Warning, exploding heads ahead!
“Montgomery left the NSA and CIA with 47 hard drives and over 600 million pages of information, much of which is classified, and sought to come forward legally as a whistleblower to appropriate government entities, including congressional intelligence committees, to expose that the spy agencies were engaged for years in systematic illegal surveillance on prominent Americans, again including the chief justice of the Supreme Court, other justices, 156 judges, prominent businessmen such as Donald Trump, and even your truly.”
Whooly, This is the face of the populist left. Democrats should stick to fighting battles they can win. That said, Gorsuch will make a fine Supreme Court Justice.
Demoncrats are voting 100% against any sTrumpet/Rep measure. It is not a face of populist left, it IS the left. 100% krazy, 100% of the time.
Speaking of “krazy”.
Thoughtful patriot, Sean Hannity said That a president under FBI investigation would present “a major Constitutional crisis”
Therefore a Supreme Court Justice, nominated by a President under federal investigation, should not be seated on the bench until said investigation has concluded.
Thoughtful patriot, Sean Hannity said That a president under FBI investigation would present “a major Constitutional crisis”
Who cares what Hannity thinks?
Anyhow, this is tantamount to allowing the JD to choose a president. That would be a “major constitutional crisis.”
Give it up, Emery. The sooner you move on to the “bargaining” stage, the sooner you will reach “acceptance.”
Trump is being investigated! That means he’s bad and can’t be president!
Trump is krazee for saying that he is being investigated!
Trump is being investigated! That means he’s bad and can’t be president!
I’m getting dizzy. Let me off this carousel.
Therefore a Supreme Court Justice, nominated by a President under federal investigation, should not be seated on the bench until said investigation has concluded.
That is almost verbatim what Chucky and Fauxahauntas said yesterday and what Chucky reiterated today during his promise to filibuster. Dude, your talking point are on display, pull up the pants and buy yourself a clue and an original thought!
Oh, and thank you for comedy relief. You definitely excel in the area for setting yourself up to be laughed at.
One of the weaknesses of liberals is their failure to think things through.
Suppose it is early in 2020, and Trump’s people in the JD go through all the NSA records of every phone call and email sent by the Democrat presidential wannabees, and then selectively leak anything that might be damaging to the press.
Okay? Not okay?
C’mon Wooley! Never OK if you have an R behind your name – you should be tarred and feathered. Always OK if you have a D and would be deified. Hmmm, sounds like a new Berg Bias Law.
a president under FBI investigation would present “a major Constitutional crisis”
Context is quite important here, no eTASS? Was Hannity maybe talking sHrillary and REAL crimes? Quantifiable and actionable crimes with tons of evidence (that no “reasonable” 0bumbler JD would prosecute, same as they did not prosecute Black Panthers, etc, ad nauseam)? The CRIMES that let to DEATH of people? THAT investigation?
This is why I hate you eTASS. Hate is a strong word, but you do manage to elicit such a strong hate. You are an elitist who thinks he is better than anyone and that you can just throw this shit out and people would think you are oh so clever. Well, you are not. And you prove as much with every post. But c’mon, keep typing, we all need a respite from a tiresome day and a view into what it is we are fighting against. You are a poster child for everything that is wrong with the world.
The day of Big Brother is no longer theoretical. It’s here. They can surveil anyone 24/7. The only thing that’s stopping them is their conscience.
Hate to break it to you TBS, but its been this way since at least the early 1980’s or late 70’s. Why do you think there hasn’t been a major terrorist attack in the US since 9/11 (major defined as over 100 dead)? It aint luck. Just look at Europe.
As evidenced from eTASS, our resident example of lib krazy, getting screedier, krazier and more detached from reality with every post.
At least he’s better and more engaging than Pen or DG. Haven’t had a lib commenter since angryclown. I actually kinda miss angryclown
Glad I have a Samsung Galaxy S7.
http://heavy.com/news/2017/03/wikileaks-vault-7-leak-cia-bugs-iphones-factory-fresh-darkmatter-darkseaskies/
Who and what, exactly, is Comey’s FBI investigating? What is the crime? How do we know this isn’t just a fishing expedition?
Investigating Donald Trump, F.B.I. Sees No Clear Link to Russia
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/us/politics/fbi-russia-election-donald-trump.html
Yep, that’s the NY Times.
On October 31, 2016.
The Times changed its tune when Trump won.
I have not heard of any “new evidence” that’s come to light since then.
Yes? Your point is? We get it. However, you are not going to get your point across to those with comprehension disorders. They will just continue to recite talking points du jour, taken out of context, no matter how absurd.
POD, but it cannot be! Apple is beyond reproach! It is unhackable, unbreakable, virus and bug free, as safe as Lenin’s tomb! It simply cannot be!
Ok, you got me! You knew I could not resist pointing out that Apple is all hype that had pretty much died even before Jobs did. At least RIM and Microsoft do not make the outlandish claims that Apple fanboys repeat like zombies when issued by Apple. And Android? I am afraid your Galaxy is likely worse than a sieve when it comes to information security. Google never saw a byte it did not like and did not want to control and exploit.
As I’ve noted elsewhere, if there is no credible evidence of an actual crime being committed–and Harry Reid’s apparent data-free notes to the FBI do not qualify–then this is a fishing expedition.
And, like the President noted, Trump Tower was in effect wiretapped. There are apparently a bunch of offices at the FBI and elsewhere in DC that need to be vacant, their former inhabitants living instead in the greybar hotel.
Not a single shred of evidence has been presented to link Trump and Russia?
Except for Mike Flynn
And Paul Manafort
And Carter Page
And Donald Jr stating “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets.”
Maybe (maybe not) Comey and Rogers will have more to add at the conclusion of their investigation. I guess we’ll have to wait and see.
QUICK- Better deflect to Hillary again.
Not a single shred of evidence has been presented to link Trump and Russia?
Except for Mike Flynn
And Paul Manafort
And Carter Page
And Donald Jr stating “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets.”
Who said “Not a single shred of evidence has been presented to link Trump and Russia?”
There is evidence to connect Obama and Putin. He’s met the man and had private conversations with him.
Your comment goes down hill from there, Emery. It’s called a “strawman argument.”
Althouse (who did not vote for Trump) has fun with the NY Times:
http://althouse.blogspot.com/2017/03/the-nyt-struggles-to-fight-off-trumps.html
DG,
You still haven’t figured it out.
NONE OF YOUR COMMENTS WILL BE PUBLISHED until you stop pooping and running.
EVER.
Trump related….I haven’t purchased a Minneapolis Star-Tribune in many many years, but someone gave me a free on Sunday. I finally had a chance to read through it tonight. Oh my….its like the Milwaukee Journal circa 1986 (was in high school then and it was all anti-Reagan, all sections).
Sunday paper was all hatred against President Trump. Every section. Even throw-away lines in the non-news sections.
And page B4…story on anti-Semetism in Minneapolis in the first half of the 20th century. Even Jewish doctors couldn’t get jobs. On page B6 there is a story about how people in St Louis Park are trying to blacklist Chick-Fil-A from opening a store there because the founder is an Orthodox Christian.
Chuck;
That effort got a one man double credit lawya (he’s a gay black man) involved, who was quoted as stating that the local hate group that he’s part of, “We’ll have our eyes on Chick-fil-a”. Of course, there is nothing there, but, gotta support the meme. Under left wing law, you are guilty, even if you’re proven innocent.
Of course, all of those haters will go to the restaurant to, you know, just to make sure that they are towing the line, five or six times.
I am afraid your Galaxy is likely worse than a sieve when it comes to information security. Google never saw a byte it did not like and did not want to control and exploit.
Meh I’m aware. I’m not looking up anything illegal and while it is annoying that they collect my data I don’t care if they monitor what I read and post on Facebook among other things. It’s called open source for a reason.
EI, the deal here is not that Trump colleagues have had contact with Russians. If that were a crime, half of Congress would be in jail, as well as all the Obama administration. Now that might be a good thing, but that’s not what is required to initiate an FBI investigation. What is needed is credible evidence that there were illegal arrangements between Trump and the Russians, and there is none yet.
Fishin’, buddy. Fishin’, and that ought to put the perpetrators of that expedition in jail.
A high percentage of anti-Trumpers are irrational. They are convinced that there is evidence of a disqualifying crime committed by Trump, and that they just have to find it.
They believe that Trump is so bad that any illegality committed in the course of obtaining and exposing the evidence of Trump’s crime is excusable, or even praiseworthy.
And it is a matter of faith to them that the evidence does exist. It is out there, it just needs to be found and publicized, and everything will go back to the way it should be. It will show that the US is the country the liberals want it to be, not the country that elected Donald J Trump.
Except for Mike Flynn And Paul Manafort And Carter Page
It is now a crime to talk to a certain national group. What a maroon! What a fascist!
Time to repost this quote from Burton’s Anatomy of Melancholy again.
Man’s most dangerous foe is nothing entirely natural, it is his fellow man: